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I'm not all that concerned about the minor scrapes with the law these leftists had 20 or 30 years ago, but I'm very concerned about the leftist, extremist and terrorist links these educators/indoctrinators have today.
1 posted on 08/08/2004 1:13:00 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee

I'm not sure it should be a law, but if you DON'T run a background check -criminal and personal - on an employee these days, you're a damn fool. I am a professor, and know personally of instances where this would haved a lot of people a lot of grief. Also, as Mike Adams has pointed out (see http://www.townhall.com ), background checks on students are just as necessary.


2 posted on 08/08/2004 1:18:59 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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I wonder how many of these professors demand background checks on gun buyers?


3 posted on 08/08/2004 1:19:51 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Privatizating environmental management is critical to national survival.)
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To: wagglebee
What's the fuss, professors? I've had to prove my clean record 15 times in the last ten years to purchase firearms.

I don't remember the academics claiming before that "...the suspicion that everyone may have something to hide dampens morale without predicting future crime. "

What a revelation. Academics against the Brady Law. Or is it only their own backgrounds that needn't be checked?

4 posted on 08/08/2004 1:20:32 PM PDT by William Tell
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"When the murder came to light last summer, some of his Penn State colleagues told reporters that he had been an exemplary professor."

Yeah, but how many of his colleagues ever accepted an invitation from him to go fishing?

5 posted on 08/08/2004 1:22:15 PM PDT by Exeter
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To: wagglebee; MeekOneGOP
Much of the furor is fueled by the discovery last summer that college professor Paul Krueger spent four years teaching at Penn State University before the school learned that he had murdered three fishermen 40 years earlier.

He committed it in my hometown of Corpus Christi.

Penn State professor a Texas parolee (for triple murder)

6 posted on 08/08/2004 1:22:41 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: wagglebee
Advocates and opponents alike agree that if nothing else, the trend reflects universities' efforts to protect themselves.

Sounds like a civil litigation problem far more than a crime risk problem. If most or all the professorial crimes have come up with the offender's previous background clean as seems to be implied here, it looks like a solution chasing a nonproblem.

8 posted on 08/08/2004 1:25:57 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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"Why the professor of medieval poetry should go through this is hard to understand," he says.

Because they are being hired to be authority figures for our children.

So9

9 posted on 08/08/2004 1:28:23 PM PDT by Servant of the 9 (Screwing the Inscrutable or is it Scruting the Inscrewable?)
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If the criminal record includes sexual abuse or drugs, it is a near certainty that the crimes will be repeated on the campus. However, I agree with you that the politics of the professors are a much greater problem than their criminality.

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10 posted on 08/08/2004 1:30:29 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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here is a background check for the professors: tell us your background. if you lie you must return all salary received. sign here.


11 posted on 08/08/2004 1:37:23 PM PDT by phxaz (if a fly lies he dies.)
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"I'm not all that concerned about the minor scrapes with the law these leftists had 20 or 30 years ago, but I'm very concerned about the leftist, extremist and terrorist links these educators/indoctrinators have today."

With many like al Kerri, it is part of their total package.
Many of the left wing professors and rats in politics started their careers as mini terrorists on the streets of America. Then the more successful ones took that hatred of America and our military and used it to get elected to public office. Some even became governors, congressits and senators. One became president and now a second one is trying to be our president.

Another question about the left wing professors how many have had serious criminal acts buried by the campus police to keep the name of the university clean and pure?


14 posted on 08/08/2004 1:43:28 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Franchurian Dork Candidate, le Jacquestrap Kerri says, "Judge me by my record".. We will!!.)
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To: wagglebee
During my recent unemployment stint, I applied for many jobs in many fields, including local, county and state jobs. A background check and drug test were required by all.

Screw the "professors". They need to be required to go through the same crap I have to. I've had it to my ass with these holier-than-thou progressive types.

FMCDH(BITS)

21 posted on 08/08/2004 2:34:48 PM PDT by nothingnew (KERRY: "If at first you don't deceive, lie, lie again!")
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"In judiciary hearings, no one could cite a single instance of a college professor who had a criminal record ever doing harm to a student," says Mr. Vitali.

Maybe not, if you're talking about physical harm.

But there's ample proof myriads of these professors have done inestimable damage to the minds of millions of their students over the years!

23 posted on 08/08/2004 3:23:25 PM PDT by Gritty ("what matters to Kerry is how he looks to the other metrosexuals-Mark Steyn)
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To: wagglebee
welcome to the real world...
24 posted on 08/08/2004 3:24:38 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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Criminal background checks, standard practice for new hires in much of the working world, have invaded the upper echelons of higher education. Now the professors, once vouched for by clubby collegial networks, increasingly undergo scrutiny all too familiar outside academia. They are not happy.

DON'T YOU KNOW WHO WE ARE????? We are the Liberal Elite. How dare you question us!!! Just shut up and continue to hand us our taxpayer-funded paychecks even though we don't deserve 1/3 of what we are actually earning. Shut up, you underlings, you pee-ons. How dare you question us!!!!

25 posted on 08/08/2004 3:32:12 PM PDT by Libertarian444
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To: wagglebee

If you think they're going nuts over this, suggest they be required to submit to drug tests.


27 posted on 08/08/2004 3:43:47 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men are ready to do violence on our behalf)
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To: kenth; CatoRenasci; Marie; PureSolace; Congressman Billybob; P.O.E.; cupcakes; Amelia; Diana; ...

While this isn't regarding k-12, I thought some of you may find this of interest.

28 posted on 08/08/2004 6:56:20 PM PDT by Born Conservative (“Consensus is the negation of leadership.” – Margaret Thatcher)
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The late, unlamented "Frugal Gourmet," Jeff Smith, was a college chaplain at the University of Puget Sound.

He apparently raped quite a few young men, though I don't know if any of his victims were students there. (I say "apparently," since he was never tried on criminal charges. He did settle several civil lawsuits to the tune of millions of dollars, however.)

36 posted on 08/09/2004 7:00:48 AM PDT by shhrubbery!
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So, the bottom line is that they are against them because they make them feel bad?


41 posted on 08/09/2004 7:52:14 AM PDT by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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