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Hillary was on a power trip -- Keyes is on a rescue mission. BIG DIFFERENCE
Pantagraph ^ | Aug. 6, 04 | Churchillbuff

Posted on 08/06/2004 8:03:31 AM PDT by churchillbuff

Stop with the Hillary/Keyes comparisons already (like in the linked oped in the newspaper, the Pantagraph). Hillary was on a POWER TRIP -- she pushed local candidates (Lowy and Andrew Cuomo) to the side so she could have the prize for herself. IN CONTRAST, AMBASSADOR KEYES IS RESPONDING TO A CALL FOR HELP FROM AN IMPERILED ILLINOIS REPUBLICAN PARTY. He's on a rescue mission. True, the media in Illinois don't like his decision, they don't want him showing up with a life-preserver - - - but why should he agree with them that the local GOP should be allowed to drown? CONGRATULATIONS, AMBASSADOR KEYES. YOU'VE SHOWN A SENSE OF DUTY BY RESPONDING TO A CALL FOR HELP.


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: alan; alankeyes; bigdifference; carpetbagging; godfearing; hefearsthelord; heisgood; heisprogun; heisprolife; heissmart; hillary; hitlery; ifearkeyes; illinois; keyes; nodiffernce; polorizing; saveamerica; stophillary
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1 posted on 08/06/2004 8:03:35 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

Did any of these papers that are criticizing Keyes' rescue mission, criticize Hillary's power play?


2 posted on 08/06/2004 8:05:13 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

I pray for a miracle for the fine folks of Illinois. And, Dr. Keyes would be a start.


3 posted on 08/06/2004 8:05:28 AM PDT by KriegerGeist ("Only one life to live and soon it is past, and only what was done for Jesus Christ shall last")
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To: churchillbuff
I don't care what the pundits left or right say. Carpetbagging wasn't right for Hillary, and it ain't right for Keyes. (Further, he's going to lose badly, which returns me to my long-standing criticism of Keyes: he NEVER runs for an office he could actually win, and therefore have to actually vote/govern where he would have to compromise, and, believe me, he WOULD compromise, because that is the art of politics).

Let me also remind you of this---which KEYES should know, because he is a brilliant man---the PURPOSE of the senate is to protect the states. The purpose of the House is to protect the people. That is why it is doubly important for a senator to be FROM THE STATE he or she supposedly represents.

4 posted on 08/06/2004 8:08:53 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news.)
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To: Geist Krieger

Is Obama pro-abortion? Because of all the good press he's getting, I'm assuming (Without any other evidence) that he is. If so, it'll give Dr. Keyes a big opening for some rhetorical fireworks. Abortion is Keyes' front-center moral issue - and he'll get a chance to ask a black man if Planned Parenthood should be allowed to abort the next generation of black people.


5 posted on 08/06/2004 8:09:28 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: LS
Carpetbagging wasn't right for Hillary"""

The media didn't complain. They also didn't complain when Bobby Kennedy did it. But they're already beefing about Keyes - - even though he's coming at the request of the local party (which makes it very different from Hillary's ego trip)

6 posted on 08/06/2004 8:11:12 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff
You are right. But I would just let it go because it won't sell and this is serious business. So instead, use Hillary to Keyes' advantage. He should just say "I don't want Hillary to feel lonely." What can they say to that. It sounds nice to Hillary. It puts his liberal questioners on the defensive, since they all supported Hillary. I think that's the best option.

Or there is always Clinton's line, as Howlin suggested. LOL! "Because I can." Of course, only Clinton with his media backup singers could get by with such a flippant statement.

7 posted on 08/06/2004 8:13:02 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: churchillbuff

Alan Keyes is playing by the rules and like you said did not push anyone aside to get in the race. As many of you know I am not an Alan Keyes supporter, but I thank him for getting in the race to at least give the GOP a shot at winning.

Don't see how anyone can criticize him when he is playing by the rules that Illinois has on the books. If they don't like it, change the rules. If I remember right, the Illinois RATs toyed with Hillary Clinton before she chose NY to run. There is no comparison in the two -- Hillary leveraged where she could get the highest profile IMHO and chose NY. What about Bobby Kennedy -- did the same thing.

What's different then the candidate that moves to a State specifically to run. Happens all the time but most are not this high profile. Al Gore might as well have been a carpetbagger in TN when he ran for as little time as he spent in the State. Carpetbagger is a joke anymore the way people move around anyways.

The Chicago media will do and say anything to take down Alan Keyes and clear the way for Obama IMHO. Having a conservative represent Illinois would drive the Chicago machine nuts!


8 posted on 08/06/2004 8:13:21 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Oklahoma is Reagan Country and now Bush Country -- Win Another One for the Gipper!)
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I agree with the rescue mission.

I feel sorry for the citizens of Illinois that they need “rescued”. If the GOP is such disarray in Illinois that they need to draft Alan Keyes (with all due respect) they are in BIG TIME trouble. There should be no reason the party can’t find a good candidate in state. Obviously they are afraid of Osmama. And speaking as a former resident of the great state of Illinois, I feel sorry for them.

I like Keyes, he is a fighter & gamer, but he is the sacrificial lamb in this race.

Good luck Alan.

9 posted on 08/06/2004 8:13:55 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas
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To: churchillbuff

Keyes was invited, the bitch slimed in on her own


10 posted on 08/06/2004 8:14:36 AM PDT by The Wizard (DemonRATS: enemies of America)
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To: churchillbuff

What is Alan Keyes' position on our Iraq campaign? Is Keyes an appeaser like you?


11 posted on 08/06/2004 8:16:12 AM PDT by StumpyPete
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To: churchillbuff

It's still carpetbagging. And it stinks of racial tokenism.


12 posted on 08/06/2004 8:16:41 AM PDT by Sloth (John Kerry: Frank Burns with Charles Winchester's pedigree.)
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To: churchillbuff

Agreed, these are two different situations entirely.


13 posted on 08/06/2004 8:17:08 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: StumpyPete
What is Alan Keyes' position on our Iraq campaign? Is Keyes an appeaser like you?"""

I've never seen you argue for invading Cuba. So I guess you're pro-Castro, an "appeaser" of the communists in Cuba. Sheesh.

14 posted on 08/06/2004 8:19:23 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff
Seems to me the Dems have changed the rules by example on multiple issues like:
sex
lying,
secrets,
judgeships,
constitutional law,
carpetbagging and
staying on in the senate while running for president.
....looks like all is now fair in love, war and politics.
And I don't like it.
mc
15 posted on 08/06/2004 8:19:26 AM PDT by mcshot ("When you don't think too good, don't think too much" Ted Williams)
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To: churchillbuff

What's his position on the Iraq campaign?


16 posted on 08/06/2004 8:20:50 AM PDT by StumpyPete
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To: churchillbuff

Carpet bagging is carpet bagging. Keyes has never lived there, he shouldn't run for office there.


17 posted on 08/06/2004 8:21:20 AM PDT by discostu (Gravity is a harsh mistress)
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To: churchillbuff
Going to be sweet to have the dems spend time and money in Illinois.

We owe Keyes a big debt of thanks.

18 posted on 08/06/2004 8:24:20 AM PDT by OldFriend (IF IT'S KERRY.....HELL IS ON THE WAY)
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To: The Wizard

Not only did Herself barge into New York State, a native New Yorker (Nita Lowery) was bumped from the ticket to make room for Herself.

Dr. Alan Keys pushes no one to the side. He comes, at invitation, to face an upstart with no experience outside the Chicago political machine.

Barack Obama, like John Edwards, overstates the humble beginnings and upbringing by an obscure unknown of a father. Obama's father was a college student from Kenya, who met and married a white woman from Kansas. By all reports, Obama's father was little more than a sperm donor, and Barack's childhood was spent in Indonesia and Hawaii, raised by a stepfather. Barack Obama misses out on all the essential history of American blacks, which is to be descended from slaves and the child (or grandchild) of Mississippi sharecroppers. Not once did he have to endure the sight of a lynching or church burning.


19 posted on 08/06/2004 8:33:34 AM PDT by alloysteel
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To: churchillbuff

Nah, I ain't buying it. Alan, you should have known better.


20 posted on 08/06/2004 8:34:09 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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