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The Media is the Real Enemy - Watch Media Reaction to the Swift Boat Vets Story and be Convinced!
8-6-04 | Bob J

Posted on 08/05/2004 5:17:52 PM PDT by Bob J

The Media is the Real Enemy

This has been one of my mantras since I arrived at FR in '97 ('96?). Holding rallies, working to get candidates elected, etc., is of immediate importance, but until we solve the media prejudice issue, we will always be pushing that boulder up the hill only to have it roll back down on us the moment our attention is diverted.

Liberal Media Hegemony is the Engine That Drives Their Movement

Liberals have to rely on propaganda and intimidation, in the media, in education, in unions, etc., to maintain control. They know it is the mothers milk of their effectiveness. Conservatives, if we are ever to achieve a lasting ascendancy and eliminate liberalism as a significant cultural influence, must understand that a long term plan on confronting and overcoming this challenge must be put in place or we will always just come up short of our goals.

Yes, we hold majorities in Congress and Governorships, the White House and the Supreme Court, what has that gotten us? The fact is there are still too many rinos willing to play politics and squelch the conservative agenda. Rinos are a direct result of the media holding too much power, particularly in close districts.

Do you think Clinton would have been re-elected, Hillary still sitting in the Senate, Gore almost winning in '00 and sKerry this close in '04 if it wasn't for the lapdog media who decides not only what information is disseminated, but as important, what isn't and how and where it is presented?

Imagine you are on a sports team and go to play an away game, only to lose by a large margin. You find out the next day the refs were paid off. Do you go back and play the same team next week, on the same turf with the same refs? That's what we do as conservatives every day of our lives. We when and bitch about it, but what are we actually doing to change it?

People say we have Fox News. Fox News does very well and beats the other cable stations, but when you add up the numbers for the others all together, they beat Fox. And, they still got Rather, Brokaw and Jennings. They still have the NY/LA Times and magazines. They still got our universities, our unions, our entertainment industry (an information dissemination industry all it's own). Yes, we got the internet, but it pales to the competitions advantage.

I'm not going to present a plan, I have my own ideas and am working on some of them. I'd like to hear what the FReepers have to say and what ideas you have, and, how far you are willing to go.



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KEYWORDS: bias; bobjrocks; enemywithin; media; mediabias; swiftboatvets
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To: Bob J
I'd like to hear what the FReepers have to say and what ideas you have,

Can we get Mr. Scafie to buy the New York Times for us?

21 posted on 08/05/2004 5:30:45 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (Kerry lied, while good men died. Go to www.kerrylied.com)
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To: Bob J
The liberal-Democratic-Partisan-Media-Outlets will now be selective on which Veterans they will cheer and honor. Those they will send out to stump for Kerry and which ones they will condemn for defending themselves and their actions.

Like Rush said, they started it. If Kerry wants to make Viet Nam an issue, then let's have a look back at it.

Check out these very spot-on related articles at National Review Online BobJ:

Link to "The Bias Card"

This one is long but really informative:

Link to "Kerry Spot"

Regards,
G.K.

22 posted on 08/05/2004 5:31:37 PM PDT by KriegerGeist ("Only one life to live and soon it is past, and only what was done for Jesus Christ shall last")
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To: Bob J

FOX media calls THE TRUTH....IS DISPICABLE?..

Bwahahahaha.....FOX NEWS failure to report the news and still calling itself a news agency
instead of a PROPAGANDA MINISTRY FOR PROFIT

IS DISPICABLE

IMO


23 posted on 08/05/2004 5:32:13 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Bob J
It sounds like Fox News has not looked favorably on the Swift Boat Veterans (then again the owner of Fox News endorsed John Kerry).

Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage, and locally (Apollo Astronaut/talk show host) Walter Cunningham have all supported the veterans.

I turned on the alphabet networks tonight and there was NO coverage (although it had been covered by ABC and CBS on radio news updates every hour).

NBC did have time to cover the Bruuuuce Springsteen, Dave Matthews Band, et al Millionaires For The Billionaire - Useful Idiots 2004 Tour.

24 posted on 08/05/2004 5:32:17 PM PDT by weegee (YOU could have been aborted, and you wouldn't have had a CHOICE about it.)
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To: NativeTxn
same here,one of these guys was a rear admiral for crying out loud
25 posted on 08/05/2004 5:32:45 PM PDT by Charlespg (Civilization and freedom are only worthy of those who defend or support defending It)
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To: Luke21
"Before we had nothing. All we could do was listen by ourselves and snarl at them. One of the media's favorite tactics before the internet was "Nobody else thinks like you. You're an extemist." That one doesn't fly anymore."

Are you suggesting we've won? (Rumble, rumble, rumble...the sounds of a boulder rolling back over us)

26 posted on 08/05/2004 5:33:41 PM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: South40

The DNC has already threatened legal action against media outlets that run the ad. Yes, they are that dumb but if they can keep it off the air until September, CFR will do the rest.


27 posted on 08/05/2004 5:34:42 PM PDT by weegee (YOU could have been aborted, and you wouldn't have had a CHOICE about it.)
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To: dubyaismypresident
"Can we get Mr. Scafie to buy the New York Times for us?"

I wouldn't rely on the kindness of Sugar Daddies. What can we do?

28 posted on 08/05/2004 5:36:00 PM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: Bob J

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/08/06/wus06.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/08/06/ixworld.html

Vietnam veterans accuse Kerry of civilian abuses

By David Rennie in Washington
(Filed: 06/08/2004)

A group of Vietnam veterans launched an assault on Senator John Kerry's war record yesterday as the fight for the presidency turned ugly.

Thirteen men from the naval patrol squadron in which Mr Kerry served, calling themselves "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth", appeared in a television advertisement accusing him of claiming falsely to be a hero.
 

John Kerry: accused of civilian abuse during the Vietnam war

They said he lied to win his gallantry medals and alleged that he committed abuses against civilians in the Mekong Delta [excerpt]


29 posted on 08/05/2004 5:36:25 PM PDT by syriacus (Daschle on National Missile Defense debate -- "THIS ISN'T ROCKET SCIENCE." June 8, 2001)
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To: weegee
Tieing it up in the courts may be their goal, and that tactic may or may not be successful.

But the added publicity they are giving it is working against them. Remember Fox News' lawsuit against Stuart Smalley?

30 posted on 08/05/2004 5:37:28 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: Bob J
I wouldn't rely on the kindness of Sugar Daddies.

You just gave me an unpleasant Kerry-Soros image there.

What can we do?

Got to think on this one.

31 posted on 08/05/2004 5:37:53 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (Kerry lied, while good men died. Go to www.kerrylied.com)
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To: syriacus

Exellent. The question is whether it will reach their print edition or go down the rabbit hole tomorrow.


32 posted on 08/05/2004 5:38:05 PM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: South40
To quote BO’s website preview of tonight's show:

A new right-wing TV ad is very disturbing, which slanders Sen. John Kerry.

From the dictionary:

slan•der

. 1. Law. Oral communication of false statements injurious to a person's reputation.
2. A false and malicious statement or report about someone.

Mr. NoSpinZone has already judged the add and assumes that the statements of all the vets are false and malicious. All they have said is the ugly truth about a self righteous poser.

33 posted on 08/05/2004 5:38:53 PM PDT by tbpiper (Michael Moore…..the Erich von Däniken of political documentary)
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To: Bob J
The media will scoff at the Bush team's claim that they didn't authorize the ad and had nothing to do with it (those wascally 527's), totally opposite of the way that that they accepted the Democrats' claim that the Moveon contest ad showing Bush morphing into Hitler was not authorized by any candidate. In fact, they tried to blame the Republicans for making a big deal of the ad on the MoveOn site.

This one is going to reverberate for a while. I'm afraid that it will allow Kerry to play the victim in an attempt to soften future Bush attack ads, knowing that negative ads are coming on Kerry's term as Dukakis' Lt. Governor, and his two decades in the Senate.

-PJ

34 posted on 08/05/2004 5:39:20 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: weegee

You hit on something there. Fox and the other channels sent marching orders to bash the group....even thought the group has a lot of credit. One of their members was on a boat next to Kerry's


35 posted on 08/05/2004 5:39:33 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: South40; Bob J
O'Really and Penis Morris are slamming it now.---

I missed it, but that's sickening. I just heard the guys on MSNBC OUTRIGHTLY calling the Swiuft Boat Vets' claims LIES. The dark haired moderator at the eight o'clock hour and some liberal dweeb reporter just called their words LIES. No questions asked!

I feel like @&%@$*&@! someone!!

Bob J, I am constantly writing here "the mainstream media is America's strongest, most ruthless and destructive enemy." Please ping me whenever you write about the media. I hate them with a passion. They are killing the country, and we have little time left.

36 posted on 08/05/2004 5:39:59 PM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza)
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To: tbpiper
Some point to O'Riley and proclaim "Our ship has come in!".

Live by the Sugar Daddy, die by the Sugar Daddy.

37 posted on 08/05/2004 5:40:30 PM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: South40
Al Franken never bought his airtime and was able to continue talking after the Fox News lawsuit ended.

The Swiftboat Veterans may not get airtime on news programs as the election nears and they will be prohibited from buying airtime because of Campaign Finance Reform laws.

They should challenge CFR as unconstitutional government censorship and continue airing ads after the prohibition kicks in.

38 posted on 08/05/2004 5:40:58 PM PDT by weegee (YOU could have been aborted, and you wouldn't have had a CHOICE about it.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

What are we going to do about it?


39 posted on 08/05/2004 5:41:11 PM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: All

The media gimps are biased as h3ll on the Swift boat stuff.

Part of it is marching orders....and part of it is the letter sent out by DNC LAWYERS to media groups.

Greg Knap on KLIF 570 in Dallas read the letter today.
It basically said they would file suit against the media types if the mentioned the ad and did not call it bogus.
www.klif.com


40 posted on 08/05/2004 5:41:42 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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