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The Media is the Real Enemy - Watch Media Reaction to the Swift Boat Vets Story and be Convinced!
8-6-04 | Bob J

Posted on 08/05/2004 5:17:52 PM PDT by Bob J

The Media is the Real Enemy

This has been one of my mantras since I arrived at FR in '97 ('96?). Holding rallies, working to get candidates elected, etc., is of immediate importance, but until we solve the media prejudice issue, we will always be pushing that boulder up the hill only to have it roll back down on us the moment our attention is diverted.

Liberal Media Hegemony is the Engine That Drives Their Movement

Liberals have to rely on propaganda and intimidation, in the media, in education, in unions, etc., to maintain control. They know it is the mothers milk of their effectiveness. Conservatives, if we are ever to achieve a lasting ascendancy and eliminate liberalism as a significant cultural influence, must understand that a long term plan on confronting and overcoming this challenge must be put in place or we will always just come up short of our goals.

Yes, we hold majorities in Congress and Governorships, the White House and the Supreme Court, what has that gotten us? The fact is there are still too many rinos willing to play politics and squelch the conservative agenda. Rinos are a direct result of the media holding too much power, particularly in close districts.

Do you think Clinton would have been re-elected, Hillary still sitting in the Senate, Gore almost winning in '00 and sKerry this close in '04 if it wasn't for the lapdog media who decides not only what information is disseminated, but as important, what isn't and how and where it is presented?

Imagine you are on a sports team and go to play an away game, only to lose by a large margin. You find out the next day the refs were paid off. Do you go back and play the same team next week, on the same turf with the same refs? That's what we do as conservatives every day of our lives. We when and bitch about it, but what are we actually doing to change it?

People say we have Fox News. Fox News does very well and beats the other cable stations, but when you add up the numbers for the others all together, they beat Fox. And, they still got Rather, Brokaw and Jennings. They still have the NY/LA Times and magazines. They still got our universities, our unions, our entertainment industry (an information dissemination industry all it's own). Yes, we got the internet, but it pales to the competitions advantage.

I'm not going to present a plan, I have my own ideas and am working on some of them. I'd like to hear what the FReepers have to say and what ideas you have, and, how far you are willing to go.



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KEYWORDS: bias; bobjrocks; enemywithin; media; mediabias; swiftboatvets
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To: NutCrackerBoy

IMHO, establishing laws and legal precedent prior to using the legal system as a fulcrum, is essential.


181 posted on 08/08/2004 10:06:33 AM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: Normal4me
"Truth" is in the pen of the messenger and in any society you are going to have two sides to every story. I'm convinced that when the American people get a balanced view from both sides, they go conservative four times out of five.

Libs win becuase they control 80% of that message. People are not getting both sides of an issue and that's why people like Bill and Hill can be elected to anything other than dog catcher.

182 posted on 08/08/2004 10:10:04 AM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: applemac_g4

I don't think we need hostile takeovers, we need to change the media culture that discriminates against conservatives and their opinions.


183 posted on 08/08/2004 10:16:50 AM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: Right-wing Librarian

Agreed RWL, but what can we do about it?


184 posted on 08/08/2004 10:17:26 AM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: rebel_yell2

Well, I'm not satisified with it just being reported, I want balance in that reporting. Plus, is it being talked about in the NYTimes? ABC? CBS? NBC?


185 posted on 08/08/2004 10:18:59 AM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: Bob J
If we ever get to the point, where we can pick what bundles of media outlets we wish to receive, the problem may take care of itself. I, for one, never watch network news.
186 posted on 08/08/2004 10:20:10 AM PDT by independentmind
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To: Bob J

What can we do about it? And, what WILL we do about it?

Both excellent questions, I wish I had the right answers. If Kerry is elected, perhaps world and national events may play a key part in helping us with the answers.


187 posted on 08/08/2004 3:31:18 PM PDT by Right-wing Librarian
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To: Bob J

Fox News chairman of the Board just endorsed John Fraudulent Kerry.


188 posted on 08/08/2004 9:21:30 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (My Father was 10x the hero John Fraud Kerry is.)
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To: Bob J

Donate to the Swift boat vets to counter the tie in with the mediots and Kerry!


Why we should contribute to the Swift Boat Money raising for tv ads, based on comments from Kerri's staff":

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1188521/posts

According to a Kerry campaign source, senior campaign advisers tasked two Washington-based campaign staffers to vet the recently published Unfit for Command.

"The purpose was to compare what that book had with what we had on file from Senator Kerry," says the campaign source, who said that the research project developed more than 75 instances where Kerry's recollections, previous remarks, or writings conflicted with the book's reporting.

"We took some of the most glaring examples, like the Christmas in Cambodia story, and presented them to senior staff, and we assume that those things were put in front of Senator Kerry," says the source. "We haven't heard a word about it. All we were told is that it was being taken care of."

The campaign source said that the book was not considered a "serious" problem for the campaign, because, "the media wouldn't have the nerve to come at us with this kind of stuff," says the source.

"The senior staff believes the media is committed to seeing us win this thing, and that the convention inoculated us from these kinds of stories. The senior guys really think we don't have a problem here."
















It is obvious that ABCNNBC BS and O'Reilly are in the closet with Komrade Kerry's Klan, and they will never get the real story out.

For the real story to get out, the Swift Boat Vets need funding to buy tv ad time. That Funding must come people like Freepers.


"It is time that we fund these brave Navy warriors's effort to get the truth out to America, since the mediots will not do it!


To Donate to Swift Boat Vets

$100 via my credit card is now in their advertising account.

Here is the link to donate:

https://coral.he.net/~swiftvet/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets


189 posted on 08/10/2004 9:18:46 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Has the Franchurian Dork candidate, le Jacquestrap Kerri ever not lied to Americans!")
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To: beyond the sea

YOU ARE SO RIGHT ON! The MEDIA is the enemy. My stepdad taught me that when I, at the politically naive age of 16, tried to walk into the house with a copy of the Atlanta Constitution paper. He literally picked me up and tossed me and the paper out the door. He wouldn't have any part of that liberal rag in his house. Even way back then my dad had the media conspiracy figured out.

As for the answer to the media - one word MOVIES! We don't need to buy out the networks. This dumb-downed generation only responds to visuals and emotion. We need to make more patriotic movies. Where are the conservative film producers?
We need to make a MOVIE of the SwiftBoatVets story. Are you listening Mel Gibson? Bypass the media talking heads (even pompous O'Reilly). As much as I detest Michael Moore he knows how to get his message across even if it is propaganda.
By the way love your tagline Free Martha Mitchell - total crackup.


190 posted on 08/10/2004 11:03:01 AM PDT by A'elian' nation
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To: A'elian' nation
Free Martha Mitchell- total crackup

Get this:

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The Martha Mitchell Effect -- The Martha Mitchell effect is a process by which a belief is mistakenly diagnosed as a delusion by a psychiatrist. This is named after Martha Mitchell (the wife of John Mitchell the Attorney-General in the Nixon administration) who alleged that illegal activity was taking place in the White House. At the time her claims were thought to be signs of mental illness, and only after the Watergate scandal broke was she proved right (and hence sane).

******

Martha was a real card, and I remember oh so well how they tried to sedate her and get her to shut up! Oh yes, those were the wild old days...

Donald Segretti

;-)

191 posted on 08/10/2004 12:17:45 PM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza)
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To: Bob J
I don't remember if I asked this before, but if you have another thread having to do with the evil media, please ping me.

Something must be done about the influence of the media.

192 posted on 08/10/2004 12:19:52 PM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza)
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To: Right-wing Librarian
What can we do about it? And, what WILL we do about it?

Commentators such as Bill O'Reilly don't care if they get angry emails. Network and cable news channels don't much care either. They don't care because they're so far removed and insulated from the $10 I might spend on a product advertised by one of their sponsors. Yeah, if their ratings fall, they will be affected. But threatening to quit watching them, which may someday affect their ratings and their ability to attract commercial advertisers, is a longterm strategy we can ill afford.

IMHO, the most effective target of outrage about liberal media bias is the companies that are the direct recipients of consumer dollars gained from their advertising campaigns.

We've seen this work. Recent examples are Slimfast dropping Whoopi Goldberg, Barnes & Noble deleting their fake "Unfit to Command" book cover, amazon.com retracting their fake John McCain review of the same book. These are small examples, but they do demonstrate a strategy that has successful results.

If we're all chafing at O'Reilly, for example, go after the sponsors during his radio program and Fox's O'Reilly Factor.

193 posted on 08/10/2004 12:59:47 PM PDT by lonevoice (Some things have to be believed to be seen)
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To: Bob J

I am so there. To any conservative pundits who read this I have one word: COURAGE!


194 posted on 08/10/2004 1:08:22 PM PDT by combat_boots
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To: Bob J

Kerry was in-country for 4 MONTHS, so spent only ONE Christmas over there.

HE COULD NOT HAVE MIXED IT UP WITH ANOTHER CHRISTMAS.

The memory that was "seared - seared into his memory" was a total fabrication.

He lied about where he was on Christmas 1968.

He lied about saying Nixon as President lied about where he and other soldiers were on Christmas 1968, since Nixon wasn't even the President on Christmas 1968 (inaugurated in January 1969).

He lied about being shot at by drunk South Vietnamese celebrating Christmas in Cambodia on Christmas 1968 - they are mostly Buddhist and don't celebrate Christmas.

He lied about saying he didn't say that he was in Cambodia on Christmas 1968.

The lies are so convoluted and twisted, he has spawned a new pretzel named in his honor - The Kerry - soft, twisted and half-baked.


195 posted on 08/10/2004 4:49:10 PM PDT by Enduring Freedom (Freepers are Warriors, Not Wimps)
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To: Bob J

Don't forget the TimeWarner/AOL/CNN/USA Today monopoly.


196 posted on 08/10/2004 9:07:13 PM PDT by JPJones
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To: beyond the sea
Did anyone demand Kerry condemn Michael Moore? I turned off O'Reilly when he first aired this story and I will not listen to him again. O'Reilly just seems so full of himself anymore and just wants everyone to like him and buy his books.

I've heard my President called a bald face liar for years now and I'm sick of it. They have tried to discredit everything this man says or does.

The media has been all over these Bush bashing books and movies like pigs on sh*t. And the media frenzy regarding Bush's military service! Yet when I checked CNN and MSNBCs websites today there was not one mention of this book.
Kerry put it front and center and these allegations are so damning yet they refuse to report it. They know it's all over the internet, has been for some time. They know it is at the top of the bestsellers list.

If everyone knew how stupid they think the American public is, do you think the masses would start demanding a true free press. They are nothing but propaganda. This county has been taken over by the press. I thought after the 2000 election they were finally exposed for what they are.

I truly believe this country is divided like it is because the disengaged only know out of habit to check Dan Rather or CNN from time to time to see whats going on.

I refuse to buy our local paper but I make a point to check the front page headline. It is always some ridiculous, misleading, carefully chosen crap. Sad thing is, that is all a lot of people know about the news.

And where the h*ll is the Sandy Berger story? That sure died quick didn't it?
197 posted on 08/10/2004 9:28:06 PM PDT by VA40
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To: lonevoice

On the nose lonevoice.


198 posted on 08/11/2004 8:15:19 AM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: JPJones

Any ideas on how to crack that nut?


199 posted on 08/11/2004 8:16:00 AM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: Bob J
It wasn't long ago when the media claimed that they were "journalists first, Americans second." Now they seem to be "Democrats first, journalists second."

-PJ

200 posted on 08/12/2004 11:34:11 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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