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Sen. Clinton's popularity
Townhall ^ | 8/3/04 | Matt Towery

Posted on 08/02/2004 11:35:25 PM PDT by Elkiejg

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1 posted on 08/02/2004 11:35:26 PM PDT by Elkiejg
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To: Elkiejg
Hillary is the non-recognized leader of the democrats. She's their biggest campaign fund earner. There is a signufucant percentage of democrats that want Hillary to be president but also Empress of All the Known Universe.
But there is a similarly sized group of republicans that would almost literally take up arms to stop Hillary from national office. This group is of such a size that it does deny Hillary any chance to put her plans for the presidency into effect. Hillary would have to almost unanimously take all undecided voters and that can't be done.
2 posted on 08/02/2004 11:47:06 PM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: Elkiejg

This article is,in part,wrong/disingenuous.There have been many polls taken and Hillary does NOT win against President Bush.


3 posted on 08/02/2004 11:50:05 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Elkiejg

Here's my take on the subject.

Chappa-squaw would lose by a landslide, because the GOP would see nearly 100% turnout to vote.

She has never been seen by the public in anything but a safe, artificial forum.

The GOP knives will be long and sharp for this enemy of America.

She is not personable, and her record of deceit, failure and complicity in Bill's crimes weighs on her candidacy like a certain wide load.


4 posted on 08/02/2004 11:50:53 PM PDT by Stallone (Warrior Freepers Rule The Earth)
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To: Elkiejg

Hillary 2008 campaign slogan after her loss of her Senate seat to Rudy G.

Slogan for 2008... "WE WILL TAKE THINGS FROM YOU"


5 posted on 08/02/2004 11:52:05 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Elkiejg

"Barking performance"??? I guess that's another way of calling her a bitch.


6 posted on 08/02/2004 11:52:14 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (John Edwards - the political embodiment of breast implants.)
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To: Elkiejg
This is so lame and 90's.

HELLO, There's A WAR going on.

Jeeze.

7 posted on 08/02/2004 11:54:28 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Eagles Up !!!!)
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To: Elkiejg

GREAT POINTS.


8 posted on 08/02/2004 11:57:22 PM PDT by Quix (PRAYER WARRIORS, DO YOUR STUFF! LIVES, SOULS AND NATIONS DEPEND ON IT)
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9 posted on 08/03/2004 4:02:17 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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This country has had enough Clintonism.


10 posted on 08/03/2004 4:05:33 AM PDT by chainsaw (VOTE AMERICAN - VOTE REPUBLICAN)
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To: Elkiejg
Check out the red/blue map of the election results from her race with Rick Lazio. Her ~1.5 million margin in NEW YORK CITY won the election.
11 posted on 08/03/2004 4:25:08 AM PDT by leprechaun9
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To: Elkiejg

I believe everything is going according to a well-scripted Clinteone plan. Clinton wowed the crowd, lavishing praise on Kerry, and keeping himself in the limelight as a key player (in actuality - THE key player). So why would he be boosting Kerry so enthusiastically? Because it buys him the illusion that he is a team player dedicated to Democratic victory.

Later - and maybe even already - he can brandish his poison FBI files to the key media and 'Rat players to take Kerry down - just like he did with Dean. It's just too easy.

Anybody who believes that Bill and Hillary would allow Kerry to win the election, thereby robbing Bill of his head of the party status, and dashing Hillary's chance for an '08 shot, truly does not understand the Clinton's and everything they've ever stood for. Which is themselves, and themselves only.

However, I part company with the author that Hillary would win - in '04 or '08. She is a HIGHLY polarizing figure - and will galvanize conservative voters to get off their duffs and vote against her in numbers never seen before.

Also, liberal women, being petty, vindictive, selfish and self-centered (have I covered everything?), are not real happy with Hillary waltzing into the Presidency via her marriage to their "dreamboat" Bill "Sinkmeister" Clinton. I've heard this from a number of liberal women, who although in love with the Sleazebag, are not similarly fond of Her Heinous at all.

In fact, in a conversation with liberal New York relatives just this weekend, they were openly speculating that Bill himself might take Hillary down if she runs for an '08 shot, since he couldn't take the implicit threat to his legacy from his own wife. What a pair, eh?

In any case, first things first. The enemy of our enemy is the Clinteone family (I didn't say friend). And we shall let them do their dirty work.


12 posted on 08/03/2004 4:32:09 AM PDT by guitfiddlist (Hate is a DNC Family Value)
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However, the greatest contribution Hillary Clinton could have made to Kerry would have been to serve as his vice-presidential running mate. But Kerry never offered.

Laughing out Loud at that one - can you imagine? Based on the cadaver-littered trail behind the Clintons, John Kerry couldn't shut his eyes or turn his back the whole four years!

13 posted on 08/03/2004 4:42:54 AM PDT by Angry Enough
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Sen. Hillary Clinton is the one person among Democrats who this year could have sailed to a virtually guaranteed win against President Bush in the general election.

Baloney.

14 posted on 08/03/2004 4:47:53 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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Matt Towery really needed to look at the election returns from New York when Hillary ran for Senate and Gore for President before he wrote his piece.

Gore's margin of victory in New York was 5 points greater than Hillary's! Democrats need to find candidates (as if they could!) that *EXCEED* Gore's votes, not candidates who generate significantly fewer votes.

15 posted on 08/03/2004 4:56:55 AM PDT by HateBill (John Kerry -- the only hope for suicidal jihadists.)
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To: Elkiejg
Bill Clinton never received 50% of the popular vote. That said, Hillary is definitely the Dems favorite choice for President. She would be a stronger candidate than Kerry because she does energize the Dem base--and the Rep base.

Hillary will be a formidable foe in 2008. The GOP will not have the advantage of incumbency and there is, at this point, no annointed successor to GWB. Hillary will spend the next four years raising money, building her base, and adding to her resume. Hopefully, her strong negatives and those of her husband will make the difference, but right now, she has the advantage going into 2008, sorry to say.

16 posted on 08/03/2004 4:58:04 AM PDT by kabar
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I hope and believe you're right--but the 43% of those who voted clinton in for two terms are stupid enough to vote her Highness in too. That's our problem--an uninformed, easily manipulated and ignorant electorate.
17 posted on 08/03/2004 5:04:26 AM PDT by BamaAndy (USMC vet against kerry.)
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1. Too many do discount her power and popularity. She would be a fierce foe against any contender. Deal with it. She has the machine, the money, and the influence.

2. The Kerry-Edwards situation caused me to re-think it. Edwards was encouraged by Bill C to stay in the primaries as long as possible. Kerry wins. Kerry and Bush are neck and neck. What is the benefit of a Kerry win for Hillary? The only thing I can think is---she is supporting Kerry because the fix is in: If Kerry wins, Hillary, for her support of Kerry, is assured the position of Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. [Talk about that being sKerry and scary.]
18 posted on 08/03/2004 5:05:08 AM PDT by TomGuy (After 20 years in the Senate, all Kerry has to run on is 4 months of service in Viet Nam.)
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To: A CA Guy
"Slogan for 2008... "WE WILL TAKE THINGS FROM YOU"

Repubs should be using this one, now - re Kerry and his Queen-to-be. . .and always as a preface before the name 'Hillary'.

19 posted on 08/03/2004 5:33:18 AM PDT by cricket (Don't Lose Your Head. . .Vote Republican)
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"Barking performance"??? I guess that's another way of calling her a bitch."

Either way. . .it honestly works.

20 posted on 08/03/2004 5:35:27 AM PDT by cricket (Don't Lose Your Head. . .Vote Republican)
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