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A little bit of disregarded history(09/11/01).
Friday, July 30,2004 | Defender2

Posted on 07/30/2004 9:12:01 PM PDT by Defender2

(Author's note: I have served for 28 years, including service in our defense as well as overseas)

Out of All the years that I have been here at FRee Republic, this is the first article that I have posted.

I wanted to share this little bit of disregarded history with all of you.

Two things that President Carter did that in later years that contributed to 09/11/01 happening.

1. Not supporting the Shah of Iran and letting violent revolutionaries(at least some of them current terrorists) take over the country, overunning our embassy at the time and holding members of our Embassy Staff and other Americans hostage for 444 days.

2. Discontinuing Aerospace Defense Command in late 1979, which led to a continual degradation of our Air Defenses and which led to valuable lessons in Air Defense, Strategy and Tactics, being thrown away and disregarded. Eliminating Aerospace Defense Command started the demoralisation of those Air Defense Forces. Eliminating those Squadrons responsible for our nation's Air Defense also aided in the demoralisation of those Air Defense Forces. Before that, It was regarded a high honor and very important responsibility to Defend our Nation's Airspace.

After that Air Defense was regarded as wasting time and the degradation of U.S. Air Defenses ensued. Under Aerospace Defense Command(jointly with NORAD), ALL U.S. Airspace was monitored, not just outward from our borders and shores. The innermost Air Defense center then was in Missouri covering our Nation's interior(Richards-Gerbauer A.F.B., along with the then Air Defense assigned 71st F.I.S.) .

President Bush served in Aerospace Defense Command, Serving with the 111th F.I.S., 147th F.I.G., Texas Air National Guard before ADCOM's disbandonment in 1979. See how he is today being ridiculed for participating in our nation's Air Defense. Even after 09/11/01, The importance of our nation's Air Defence is being ridiculed starting with President Bush's Service defending our homeland's airspace with the Texas A.N.G..

You would figure that after 09/11/01, anyone participating in our nation's Air Defense would be regarded in honor. Even today, post 09/11/01, the importance of our nation's Air Defense is being ridiculed, starting with the ridicule of President Bush's service in this regard. I am deeply angered in this.

Something that under the President Clinton administration that happened which contributed to the events of 09/11/01.

Of course We ALL know about the "Gorelick Wall" but here's something else.

26 Air defense Alert sites that were in operation prior to President Clinton's inauguration were reduced to 7 under his presidency. Including the closest site to New York, Atlantic City. Airtime between Atlantic City and New York is minimal, meaning it is possible that the attackers possibly could have been headed off if the Atlantic City site would have still been in operation.

Since 09/11/01, President Bush has restored the importance of Our Nation's Air Defense. ALL of those 26 sites have been returned to duty with added importance. Thank You, President Bush!!!!

Some how, I get the impression that the 09/11/01 commission does not know or care to know or have not shared any of the above information in their report.

The Left's attitude in this country's defense contributed greatly to 09/11/01.

Just look at Senator Kerry's voting record on defense as an example.


TOPICS: Unclassified
KEYWORDS: 091101commission; currentevents; deconstructingcarter; nmd; recentushistory; wot
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To: Defender2

You've been here since 1999 and this is the first article you posted? Come on, you have got to get over being shy. :)


201 posted on 07/31/2004 11:24:54 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland

I wish you could see the big grin and chuckling, I'm doing as I am reading your reply!!!!:-)

I guess in a way you could call it that I was being a little gun shy...hehehe!!!!:-)

Very Best FReegards to You Always, Doug,

Defender2

:-)hehehe(I'm still chuckling!!!!) :-)


202 posted on 07/31/2004 11:28:43 PM PDT by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: Defender2

And a good one.


203 posted on 07/31/2004 11:39:54 PM PDT by tiki
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To: tiki

Thanks Very Much, tiki!!!!:-)


Very Best FReegards, Always,

Defender2

D2

:-)


204 posted on 07/31/2004 11:43:01 PM PDT by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: Defender2

Did you know....
that ADC had a space launch unit at Vandenberg AFB?
I am not sure of the years but in 1964 a SAC unit launched the first,then classified USAF weather satellite on a Scout. I was in the HQ SAC weather center downloading pictures. Some years after ADC was the launch agency for the more advanced Defense Meteorological Satellite Program. The Thor was the booster. I ran a user site in VietNam,and later ended my career as operations director in the program office and engineering director at Sac HQ. This joint program was given to Space Command on Titan boosters after I retired.


205 posted on 08/01/2004 5:02:37 AM PDT by larryjohnson
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To: Defender2

More than you needed to know. First"Blue Scout"was in 1962. ADC launches are in this link(I think)

MSL: Launch History Database

http://leonardo.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/LHscript.pl?name=&xmass=l&mass=&site=WSMC&year=&orbit=LEO&organiz=Force&mission=Weather&lv=Thor+


206 posted on 08/01/2004 5:56:38 AM PDT by larryjohnson
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To: Defender2

Here's another bump for 'ya! Hugs!


207 posted on 08/01/2004 7:38:54 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: larryjohnson

Very Interesting, Sir. I Did not know that before. Thank you very much for your service, Sir.

And Very Best FReegards, Always,

Defender2


208 posted on 08/01/2004 2:32:06 PM PDT by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: Alamo-Girl

HUGS, Sweetie!!!!:-)

D2


209 posted on 08/01/2004 2:33:48 PM PDT by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: Defender2

Volley bump and more hugs!


210 posted on 08/01/2004 8:21:47 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

Here's a Bump and another HUG!!!!:-)


211 posted on 08/01/2004 9:11:29 PM PDT by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: Defender2

Just found this. It addresses the thought process behind the reduction in Air Defense. Kinda sad in hind sight.

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/GOVPUBS/gao/gao19.htm


212 posted on 08/01/2004 9:58:07 PM PDT by ODC-GIRL (Proudly serving our Nation's Homeland Defense)
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To: ODC-GIRL; Alamo-Girl; amom; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; gilliam; MacDorcha; Phyto Chems; HiJinx; ...

Post #212.

ODC-GIRL wrote me the below:

"Just found this. It addresses the thought process behind the reduction in Air Defense. Kinda sad in hind sight.

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/GOVPUBS/gao/gao19.htm

Thanks ODC-GIRL. Yes indeed sad in hindsight.

I wanted to share this with All of you.

FReegards, D2


213 posted on 08/01/2004 11:22:19 PM PDT by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: Defender2; Cincinatus' Wife; TigerLikesRooster; Grampa Dave; Squantos
D2 post of link (in #213) 1994 memo suggesting that integrated air defense force is no longer neede by: All Dem congressmen. No big surprise.
The Honorable Sam Nunn (D-GA)
Chairman, Committee on Armed Services
United States Senate

The Honorable Daniel K.  Inouye (D-HI)
Chairman, Subcommittee on Defense
Committee on Appropriations
United States Senate

The Honorable Ronald V.  Dellums (D-CA)
Chairman, Committee on Armed Services
House of Representatives

The Honorable John P.  Murtha (D-PA)
Chairman, Subcommittee on Defense
Committee on Appropriations
House of Representatives

214 posted on 08/01/2004 11:39:32 PM PDT by risk
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To: Defender2

Thanks, D2, for the sharing. Good stuff that is finally seeing the light of day for those that will see. *HUGS*


215 posted on 08/01/2004 11:40:02 PM PDT by Kathy in Alaska (God Bless America and Our Troops Who Protect Her)
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To: Defender2

Dated 94 ?.........


216 posted on 08/01/2004 11:40:30 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Defender2; zot; Interesting Times
Ping!

TS

217 posted on 08/01/2004 11:44:06 PM PDT by The Shrew (A dollar a day won't cure your addiction to FR but it will make you feel better. Join me!)
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To: Defender2

Thanks for the ping,D2


218 posted on 08/02/2004 1:17:01 AM PDT by BARLF
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To: Defender2

Thanks for all the wonderful info. Tbis is why FR is such a wonderful site. All the news worth knowing can be found here.

Thanks for your service to our country. Will look forward to more posts.


219 posted on 08/02/2004 1:26:41 AM PDT by PROUDAMREP (BUSH/CHENY '04)
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To: Defender2

BTTT!!!!!!


220 posted on 08/02/2004 3:01:20 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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