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ZOT!! Difference between "I'm sure" and "I think"
Enter Waxman ^ | July 29, 2004 | Bill Oreilly patronizer

Posted on 07/29/2004 12:35:57 PM PDT by epistimes

Bush lied:

* Bush allowed the neocons to create the Office of Special Plans to circumvent normal intelligence vetting procedures,

* he asked only for info the backed his views and thus is guilty of cherry-picking data,

* he distorted CIA reports in public speeches by removing caveats and disagreements between government agencies,

* he used false logic ("we know he had em cause he used em"),

* he jumped the gun several times after the invasion, saying we had "found WMD", and

* he allowed Cheney to continue to make statements that were being contradicted by the CIA.

* he never explained why Powell said in February of 2001 at Cairo, that Saddam had "no significant WMD capability"

* he said to Diane Sawyer "What's the difference?", when addressing the difference between "Saddam has" and "Saddam has not accounted for".

Clinton did say that Saddam had WMD, but it was implicitly stated as an opinion or an educated guess by Clinton.

Bush really lied since he attached a bunch of phony evidence to his assertion which he stated as categorical proof. The evidence was phony in of itself, regardless of whether Saddam really did or didn't have WMD.

Bush is like a cop who plants evidence or misconstrues evidence to fit his theory or the thesis that helps his political aims or that he hopes turns out to be true.

Before the war, the French, Chinese and Russians agreed that Saddam had WMD. The fact is though that even though the Chinese, French and Russians thought that Saddam might have WMD, only Blair and Bush were arrogant enough to say they were sure.

In substance, Bush lied by saying he was sure on WMD stockpiles, when he should have said that he couldn't be sure.


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KEYWORDS: bus; cherrypicking; commiebastad; cranialrectumitis; intelligence; kittiefood; lies; moore; troll; vikingkittie; wmd; zot
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To: epistimes
* he used false logic ("we know he had em cause he used em")

Uh - that logic is perfectly sound.

* he jumped the gun several times after the invasion, saying we had "found WMD"

Uh - that's because we did.

Idiocy. Peddle this crap to the credulous.

21 posted on 07/29/2004 12:53:21 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Arrowhead1952
That was a super quick ZOT! Plenty of trolls lately.

Proof positive of how boring their convention is. They gave up and came over here for entertainment.

22 posted on 07/29/2004 12:53:46 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: epistimes

23 posted on 07/29/2004 12:55:04 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (LWS - Legislating While Stupid. Someone should make this illegal.)
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To: epistimes
Hey, moron, next time pick the classical name that's apropos - thersites!
24 posted on 07/29/2004 12:55:51 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: epistimes; jriemer; 4mycountry; Zavien Doombringer; MEG33; cavtrooper21; cyborg; Hat-Trick; ...
Der Ping Des Zottenkittens

TROLL DETECTION SYSTEM ACTIVATED

CUE PSY WAR OPS

25 posted on 07/29/2004 12:57:19 PM PDT by timpad (Peace without victory is procrastination)
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To: epistimes; Neets; Darksheare; scott0347; timpad; KangarooJacqui; The Scourge of Yazid; ...

You might want to put some ice on that

26 posted on 07/29/2004 12:57:47 PM PDT by scott0347 (Commander of the 0347th Lancer Brigade, Operator of the Immaculate Steamroller)
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To: epistimes; Zavien Doombringer; 4mycountry; Constitution Day; VRWCmember; Poohbah; dighton; ...

27 posted on 07/29/2004 12:58:20 PM PDT by mhking (John Kerry & Al Gore: Cut from the same tree.)
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To: scott0347
Ooh, an ocean zotting. I'll need some water lilies... brb.
28 posted on 07/29/2004 12:59:21 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: epistimes; dighton; Zavien Doombringer; Grampa Dave


BEGONE TROLL!!!
29 posted on 07/29/2004 1:00:10 PM PDT by wjcsux (Don't be a girly man! Vote Republican!)
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To: epistimes

"Somebody, somewhere loves you. Unfortunately, they are not here..."

30 posted on 07/29/2004 1:00:10 PM PDT by timpad (Peace without victory is procrastination)
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To: epistimes
* he never explained why Powell said in February of 2001 at Cairo, that Saddam had "no significant WMD capability"

Nice misquote. John Pilger lifted Powells comments out of context - and you further the offense by removing a key word at the beginning. Powell also went to to say that Saddam remained a major threat in the region.

Damn, Star Trek Next Gen made you Borg out to be a bunch of badasses. Guess that was a big lie, you're brought a knife to a photon torpedo fight.

31 posted on 07/29/2004 1:00:24 PM PDT by dirtboy (Forget Berger's socks - has ANYONE searched his skin folds for classified documents?)
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To: epistimes

You see the problem with you people is that you’re long on ideas but short on action. You actually think that if we leave the terrorists alone they’ll leave us alone.

You think that the murder of an innocent unborn baby is perfectly fine but that capitol punishment is cruel.

You think that public pornography is a constitutional right but that public display of the Ten Commandments is not.

You actually believe that the United States should give our sovereignty over to the United Nations and let them meddle in our domestic affairs.

Now you see, that’s the trouble with you people on the far left. You don’t care about what anybody who doesn’t agree with you thinks. You think that everybody besides you and your like minded buddies are completely unable to render a logical decision on world affairs and that such weighty matters should be left to you and your ilk.

You think that illiteracy, street crime and the spread of Aids is caused from lack of federal funding.

You think that the murder of an eight and a half month old child
falls under the heading of a woman’s right to choose.

You think that Hillary Clinton hung the moon and that Bill Clinton’s looking at the people of America through a television camera and lying to them was ok as long as he apologized.

You think that a draft dodger [Clinton] standing on a stage and bragging on a traitor war protester [Kerry] is patriotism.

You think that Al Gore was cheated out of the election by Jeb Bush.

You think that the United Nations is the end all, be all, answer to all the world’s problems.

You believe in revisionist history, rewriting it to suit your left leaning vision of the world.

You believe that guns should be locked up instead of the criminals who are causing all the trouble with them.

You believe that a person should be able to marry a duck if they want to and that the duck should receive benefits.


32 posted on 07/29/2004 1:00:47 PM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (G W B 2004!)
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To: scott0347
Lilies mark the spot where our dearly departed ZOT! sank...


33 posted on 07/29/2004 1:01:05 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: SandyInSeattle

something about that pick makes me think "Speed Racer"


34 posted on 07/29/2004 1:02:17 PM PDT by King Prout ("Thou has been found guilty and convicted of malum zambonifactum most foul... REPENT!)
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To: AppyPappy
Thanks for posting this Appy. It needs to stay on the front burner. I just went to the Waxman site and he has a search engine with a drop down menu for all of the people who said anything about Iraq. Only thing is, they are just Republicans from the current administration. Apparently, no Dems have said anything.....

I sent Waxman an email. Guess I'll soon find out if there are limits to what you can say to a member of Congress.

35 posted on 07/29/2004 1:02:32 PM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: epistimes

"Not one bit of him left...those new ZOT! weapons are pretty clean!"

36 posted on 07/29/2004 1:03:21 PM PDT by timpad (Peace without victory is procrastination)
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To: King Prout
something about that pick makes me think "Speed Racer"

LOL... I never noticed that, but you're right.

37 posted on 07/29/2004 1:03:25 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: epistimes

this is fanenhiet 911 on the web?


38 posted on 07/29/2004 1:03:53 PM PDT by The Wizard (Democrats: enemies of America)
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To: epistimes

"SARAH CONNOR?"

39 posted on 07/29/2004 1:04:22 PM PDT by timpad (Peace without victory is procrastination)
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To: epistimes
I see you have been dealt with but here is a bunny to dance on your grave.


40 posted on 07/29/2004 1:05:08 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Ense et aratro! "Lady Snuggles of the Lethal Yew" Keeper of the thread killing Mr.Ducky RKBA)
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