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Kerry's Band of Brothers Pledge Service To Campaign
Fox News ^ | July 27, 2004 | Kelley Beaucar Vlahos

Posted on 07/27/2004 7:36:31 AM PDT by tomball

Edited on 07/27/2004 8:56:29 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

BOSTON — John Kerry's "band of brothers" said Monday that getting the Massachusetts senator elected president is their final mission — one they would go to hell and back for if necessary.

"If John Kerry (search) came up to us and said we had one more swift boat mission and we were going to hell, he would have a full crew," said David Alston, a crewmate of Kerry, who commanded a Navy river swift boat in the Vietnam War and earned the Silver Star, a Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts for his service in 1968-1969.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
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1 posted on 07/27/2004 7:36:32 AM PDT by tomball
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To: tomball

What happened to the other 19 band of brothers. Would love to hear from them.


2 posted on 07/27/2004 7:38:19 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("John Kerry does not want to lead this country, he wants to be president.")
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To: tomball

OH Please! Where's the barf bag?


3 posted on 07/27/2004 7:38:44 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Tell A Veteran you're voting for Kerry (See what happens))
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To: tomball

To hell and back? I always thought going to hell was a one-way trip. Silly me.


4 posted on 07/27/2004 7:39:33 AM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: tomball
"If John Kerry (search) came up to us and said we had one more swift boat mission and we were going to hell, he would have a full crew,"...

Can you fit a full crew in a handbasket?

5 posted on 07/27/2004 7:39:44 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: tomball
Sheesh, where have I been? John Kerry was is Vietnam, and he actually was awarded medals?
6 posted on 07/27/2004 7:41:30 AM PDT by al44
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To: tomball
"We ain't going to hell — we've been to hell," said the Vietnam veteran, who lost two legs and his right hand in the war. "We're going to the White House."

No disrespect to Cleland, who was awarded a Silver Star at Khe Sanh, but he lost his limbs in an ACCIDENT which occured DURING the war, not in combat.

7 posted on 07/27/2004 7:45:14 AM PDT by ICX (Liberal boys never try to make a move on pretty girls without the UN Security Council's approval.)
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To: quantim

If they want to march alongside Kerry right into hell, that's their choice, but I see no reason for the rest of us to get taken along for the ride.


8 posted on 07/27/2004 7:47:49 AM PDT by GraceCoolidge
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To: SAMWolf

Barf bag is right.  Based on history, the above picture is only one example of The Kerry Solution To Ending The War On Terror.

 

9 posted on 07/27/2004 7:48:49 AM PDT by tomball
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To: tomball

Another Vietnam referece. Everyone DRINK!!!!


10 posted on 07/27/2004 7:48:56 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Former fetus.)
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To: al44

John Kerry was in Vietnam. I was in Vietnam. I served my full tour. I was also witness to many Purple Heart awards.
I have some real questions for John Kerry. I would love to read his paperwork for the initial awards and just who signed off on them. I worked in a hospital with wounded and my question should be answered by the release of his files. There should be no reason to hide any of the paperwork.


11 posted on 07/27/2004 7:51:18 AM PDT by oldironsides
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To: tomball
...Kerry, who commanded a Navy river swift boat in the Vietnam War and earned the Silver Star, a Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts for his service in 1968-1969.

The obvious inference that the writer wants the reader to draw is that Kerry served a year in Vietnam when in fact he served only a few months in the Swifts. Political reporting is full of misleading facts designed to convey the wrong impression and the reader has to pay attention.

I am reminded of a former Philadelphia mayor, Wilson Goode. The Philly media never missed an opportunity to tell it's readers/viewers that "he attended the prestigious Wharton School of Business." While not a lie, the inference that they wanted drawn was that Mr. Goode was a "graduate" when in fact he merely attended the school. This was repeated with Bill Clinton's "Rhodes Scholarship" factoid -- he never completed the program, either.

When you point this stuff out to a reporter on a call-in show, their eyes sort of glaze over. Sometimes you get a little smirk, as if to say "you caught me."

12 posted on 07/27/2004 7:51:33 AM PDT by Tallguy (If Clinton did a good job stopping the Millenium Bomber, I've got 2 Towers in NYC to sell you...)
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To: Hatteras

A political ad by John Edwards showed a picture of Kerry and his crew, and went on to say his band of brothers are all supporting him, and just as in Nam, he would not leave any Americans behind. I almost destroyed the TV. Semper Fi
PS M.Moores "F911 is destroying morale of our troops in Iraq. How long can American patriots take this without fighting back?


13 posted on 07/27/2004 7:53:01 AM PDT by gunner03 (just another grunt)
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To: tomball
Hanoi John’s Band of Brothers - all two of them?
Kerry, who commanded a Navy river swift boat in the Vietnam War and earned the Silver Star, a Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts for his service in 1968-1969.

By all the god above and below I am sick of this!
I seldom post long rants, but I can’t help it this time. The first section is not mine - I plagiarized it, but the rest is my own opinion :

Kerry, by his own account, violated the UCMJ, the Geneva Conventions and the U.S. Code while serving as a Navy officer, and he further stands in violation of Article three, Section three of the U.S. Constitution.
Upon entering the Navy in 1966, John Kerry signed a six-year contract (plus a six-month extension during wartime) and an Officer Candidate contract for five years of active duty and active Naval Reserve. This indicates that Kerry was clearly a commissioned officer at the time of his 1970 meeting with NVA Communists in Paris -- in direct violation of the UCMJ's Article 104 part 904, and U.S. Code 18 U.S.C. 953. That meeting, and Kerry's subsequent coddling of Communists while leading mass protests against our military in the year that followed, also place him in direct violation of our Constitution's Article three, Section three, which defines treason as "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy in time of warfare. (As General Vo Nguyen Giap is his witness....)
Thus, the Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, which states, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President ... having previously taken an oath ... to support the Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof." is applicable.

The following is an excerpt from the Uniform Code of Military Justice, the additional set of federal law that is applicable to military personnel.

802. ART. 2. PERSONS SUBJECT TO THIS CHAPTER
(a) The following persons are subject to this chapter:
(1) Members of a regular component of the armed forces, including those awaiting discharge after expiration of their terms of enlistment; volunteers from the time of their muster or acceptance into the armed forces; inductees from the time of their actual induction into the armed forces; and other persons lawfully called or ordered into, or to duty in or for training in the armed forces, from the dates when they are required by the terms of the call or order to obey it.
(2) Cadets, aviation cadets, and midshipman.
(3) Members of a reserve component while on inactive-duty training, but in the case of members of the Army National Guard of the United States or the Air National Guard of the United States only when in Federal Service.
(4) Retired members of a regular component of the armed forces who are entitled to pay.
(5) Retired members of a reserve component who are receiving hospitalization from an armed force.
(6) Members of the Fleet Reserve and Fleet Marine Corps Reserve.
(7) Persons in custody of the armed forces serving a sentence imposed by a court-martial.
(8) Members of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, Public Health Service, and other organizations, when assigned to and serving with the armed forces. (9) Prisoners of war in custody of the armed forces.
(10) In time of war, persons serving with or accompanying an armed force in the field.
(11) Subject to any treaty or agreement which the United States is or may be a party to any accepted rule of international law, persons serving with, employed by, or accompanying the armed forces outside the United States and outside the Canal Zone, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Virgin Islands.
(12) Subject to any treaty or agreement t which the United States is or may be a party to any accepted rule of international law, persons within an area leased by or otherwise reserved or acquired for use of the United States which is under the control of the Secretary concerned and which is outside the United States and outside the Canal Zone, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Virgin Islands.
Hanoi John was clearly subject to the UCMJ.

881. ART. 81. CONSPIRACY
Any person subject to this chapter who conspires with any other person to commit an offense under this chapter shall, if one or more of the conspirators does an act to effect the object of the conspiracy, be punished as a court-martial may direct.

If any - and many claimed to be - of the supposed veterans were in fact veterans and in a reserve status Hanoi John would be liable to this article.

888. ART. 88. CONTEMPT TOWARD OFFICIALS
Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

Check out the speeches he made while leading the VVAW

892. ART. 92. FAILURE TO OBEY ORDER OR REGULATION
Any person subject to this chapter who--
(1) violates or fails to obey any lawful general order or regulation;
(2) having knowledge of any other lawful order issued by any member of the armed forces, which it is his duty to obey, fails to obey the order; or
(3) is derelict in the performance of his duties;
shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.
Hanoi John clearly violated standing orders when he endangered his boat and crew in the action for which he was given the Silver Star.

904. ART. 104. AIDING THE ENEMY
Any person who--
(1) aids, or attempts to aid, the enemy with arms, ammunition, supplies, money, or other things; or
(2) without proper authority, knowingly harbors or [protects or gives intelligence to or communicates or corresponds with or holds any intercourse with the enemy, either directly or indirectly;
shall suffer death or such other punishment as a court-martial or military commission may direct.

“or holds any intercourse with the enemy” - by his own admission when he met (illegally both under he UCMJ and US Code).

917. ART. 117. PROVOKING SPEECHES OR GESTURES
Any person subject to this chapter who uses provoking or reproachful words or gestures towards any other person subject to this chapter shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

Again, his speeches as leader of the VVAW.

933. ART. 133. CONDUCT UNBECOMING AN OFFICER AND A GENTLEMAN
Any commissioned officer, cadet, or midshipman who is convicted of conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

Self explanatory.

934. ART. 134. GENERAL ARTICLE
Though not specifically mentioned in this chapter, all disorders and neglects to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces, all conduct of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces, and crimes and offenses not capital, of which persons subject to this chapter may be guilty, shall be taken cognizance of by a general, special or summary court-martial, according to the nature and degree of the offense, and shall be punished at the discretion of that court.

Self explanatory.

14 posted on 07/27/2004 7:53:19 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: tomball
This is a Fox News article. One would expect such slanted coverage from ABCCBSNBCPBS, but not Fox. How could this reporter possibly NOT be aware of Swift Boat Vets against Kerry? How could she possibly NOT know that a majority of other Swift Boat vets, and a unanimous group of former commanding officers, consider Kerry "unfit to serve" as President?

Does anyone have an e-mail address to reach this lady and clue her in?

Congressman Billybob

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15 posted on 07/27/2004 7:53:39 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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To: ICX
This isn't the most PC post I've written, but I'm not too PC anymore anyhow.

I do thank him for his service, but...

Let's consider Kerry's Vietnam record. He commanded a swift boat for roughly a month in the only war the US has flat-out lost in generations. He managed to get hurt 3 times in just four short months with none of the injuries causing him any time other than the administrative time to fill out his Purple Heart paperwork. He admits to committing "atrocities" that are in direct violation of the Geneva Accords he now wraps his arms around. He threw back his medals (ribbons, medals, whatever) at the Capital, effectively shoveling dirt on those POWs and those who still were in the Vietnam theater. The overwhelming majority of those who know him best and served with him are vehemently opposed to his candidacy.

Exactly why am I supposed to feel the guy is the Vietnam version of Audie Murphy?

16 posted on 07/27/2004 7:55:42 AM PDT by Carling
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To: oldironsides

This has been posted since May and is mentioned every time Bruce Elliott is on air. there has never been a response

:
Maryland's NEWS - TALK- SPORTS Station




Five Questions for Senator Kerry
Saturday, May 22, 2004 - Bruce Elliott

The next time you talk with one of your friends from the left ... ask the following questions, and expect straightforward answers. Let me know how it's going.
1. Why does John Kerry refuse to release his military medical records? What is he ashamed of? The doctor who treated him for his first Purple Heart said Kerry had a splinter in his arm from a US mortar round that Kerry had fired that scratched his arm. The splinter was about 1 cm long. His crew reported no enemy fire. That's legit?
2. Why does John Kerry refuse to release the FBI files kept on him during his days as an anti-war protester? What is he hiding?
3. Was John Kerry at the 1971 meeting of the VVAW in Kansas City when the assassination of U. S. Senators was discussed? At that meeting, what was his opinion - for or against?
4. Why will the Kerry campaign not release Teresa Heinz Kerry's complete federal income tax returns? Are there organizations to which she has contributed whose issues come before the President? Without full disclosure, how would we know of any conflict of interest issues?
5. John Kerry has made much of his Vietnam service, and how that qualifies him for the presidency. In that light, what conclusions should one draw from the statements of every single one of his commanding officers in Vietnam, all of whom say that he is unfit to be Commander in Chief?
Enjoy.

WBAL Radio
http://wbal.com/


17 posted on 07/27/2004 8:06:48 AM PDT by maica (Hitlary says; "We are going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good"...)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Try this. She may still be going under her maiden name for her email.

kelley.beaucar@foxnews.com


18 posted on 07/27/2004 8:10:02 AM PDT by SpinyNorman (Teresa and John Heinz-Kerry: the golddigger and the gigolo.)
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To: tomball
John Kerry's "band of brothers" said Monday that getting the Massachusetts senator elected president is their final mission

I wish them as much success in their final mission as George Custer had in his.

19 posted on 07/27/2004 8:27:08 AM PDT by tbpiper (Michael Moore…..the Erich von Däniken of political documentary)
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I wish them as much success in their final mission as George Custer had in his.

Custer was a pussy. Kerrey doesn't rise to that level.

20 posted on 07/27/2004 8:36:30 AM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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