Posted on 07/26/2004 7:41:11 PM PDT by Bob J
The last few months I've seen an increasing trend for FReepers to start going for each others jugular. Sometimes we forget (I've certainly done it myself) that in the grand scheme of things, we are on the same team. We may disagree on priorities or how far we are willing to go, but we have enough enemy in the left without creating more amongst ourselves. We can disagree but be civil to each other. We can debate nuance, but not believe that our personal positions are more important than the health of the whole. Let's argue vigorously but remind ourselves the guy whose trachia we are ripping out today may be sitting next to us in a foxhole tommorrow.
I'm going to propose that we all make a new start. Let's put all past differences behind us and resolve to band together and fight the good fight, the elimination of liberalism as a significant culturual influence in America...and see that to its end in our lifetimes.
If you agree, please post your thoughts and ping your lists and your friends to this thread.
Well in that case, thanks for posting ;-)
Seriously, though, that approach can be somewhat ambiguous. They could always claim that the majority of their posts are so belligerent because they're intended to target what they consider to be unintelligent and anticonservative posts. On the other hand, a page full of unflattering comments from fellow freepers, available for all to see, would probably take a few of them down a peg or two.
I'm basing this on the assumption that most sane freepers (such as yourself, based on your comments) tend to avoid these types. As a result, threads with them on it usually feature only them, their small little band of cheerleaders, and those hardy souls that wish to go head to head with them and deal with their abuse. That makes it look like their numbers are stronger than they actually are. Having a feedback page can change that perception to something a little closer to reality.
That's quite a home page - great job!
Your hostility towards libertarians wears a little thin, however.
Never fear. Help is on the way.;-)
Bob it depends on what you mean when you allude to the 'good of the whole, as opposed to the individual'. that is collectivism. truth comes from God and truth does not change. Liberty and freedom can only exist when we have a Godly people. So when many in the GOP continue to slide to the left and become basically liberal socialists, of course the people on the right arent going to crouch down and accept it, so as not to 'hurt anyones feelings'.
Conservative Christian Constitutional principles come above any party and above any political candidate. if a party or candidate caves in, compromises or betrays the principles conservatifes believe in, we don't ''go along for the ride''.
so that is why you have people who are unprincipled attempting to bash, belittle and insult those who stick to righteousness.
the truth is, there is no united front except if it is based in truth- the morality and liberty that is bestowed upon us by God. without that, you have nothing. so i will not support rino candidates who destroy our party by supporting evil and wickedness.
I agree with you 100%
I got a right to be hostile, my people been persecuted.
LOL! Reparations for the persecuted Thangs!
No justice - no peace!
;^)
-PJ
While I'd love to promote my campaign, I'd just rather not do it here. No telling what the anti-third-party contingent here would do...
Libertarianism has never "had a chance" because, in part, of the two-party-only mentality and the roadblocks put up by those two parties. Although Republicans seem eager to get Nader some votes...
I will admit, however, part of the problem is due to the LP platform. It does need tweaking. Even with those, it's still a hard sell, because people in general - especially the gullible leftists - have been brainwashed into believing there ARE no solutions unless they come from Washington, D.C. And there are those on the right that look at it in a similar vein. Between Hillary's "it takes a village" and the conservative mantra of "no man is an island", it's no wonder our lives will only be *more* controlled, not less. It's a brave new world.
The general philosophy of libertarianism is so alien, see above, that the average person automatically panics and wonders how they'd ever survive with even the loss of ONE government program, let alone most of them.
That, of course is a gross overstatement of what Democrats believe. The extreme left of the Democratic Party will assert that only a select few intellectuals should call the shots and whether they hail from Harvard, MIT or UC-Berkeley is important and the hell with the Beltway Boobs. Democratic Leadership in the Congress will assert that there is a good cause for government programs and that is true.
And there are those on the right that look at it in a similar vein. Between Hillary's "it takes a village" and the conservative mantra of "no man is an island", it's no wonder our lives will only be *more* controlled, not less. It's a brave new world.
You don't seem to really know what a conservative is. You've pegged Hillary correctly but conservatives are far more independent than you project. "No man is an island is a liberal notion, not conservative.
Just curious but how old are you and if you are running for office how have you managed to get it so confused?
My use of the phrase, "no man is an island", was based on having seen it used by people on the right side of the spectrum, usually in reference to advocating behavior-control laws.
It's also been my observation that - okay, SOME - conservatives look at Americans as unruly children, much in the same way liberals do. The difference is how each side wants to make them conform to their standards. For instance, there's a guy over on Hannity's forums that thinks we can arrest our way back to an Ozzie & Harriet kind of America, and he can't be the only one.
And, for the record: I'm on the knife's edge of being 41 years of age, and my campaign is focused mostly on eminent domain and forfeiture abuse, reforming family services to cut down on frivolous "revenge" charges (usually made by angry ex-spouses), and replacing the tax structure with the national retail sales tax.
What you read here, doesn't make it out on the campaign trail, unless I meet a kindred spirit along the way.
What you read here, doesn't make it out on the campaign trail, unless I meet a kindred spirit along the way.
Sorry, I don't understand and I realize I'm too tired to think straight.
I agree: We need SOME laws and rules, not huge steaming piles of them.
And to clarify... I mean, when I post stuff here, it's not what I say to the average Joes I talk to on the campaign trail. I vent here, and in person with those who refuse to believe that empty-suited, Tasseled Loafer Thugs can run my life better than they can.
kumbahhhhyahhhh mah lawd, kumbahhhyahhh...
noble in principle, and I laud your intent, but I suspect it will have little salutory effect.
Another Saturday night at home?
How do you 'tweak':
Same sex / any sex marriage
Open borders
Legalized drugs
End of war on terrorism?
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