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Archivist's Resignation Questioned (Sandy Berger not mentioned)
The Washington Post ^ | July 26, 2004; Page A17 | George Lardner Jr

Posted on 07/26/2004 5:28:28 AM PDT by sr4402

Edited on 07/26/2004 5:56:40 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Democrats Seek Reason for His Being Pushed Out

Archivist of the United States John W. Carlin was pushed by the White House in December to submit his resignation without being given any reason, Senate Democrats disclosed last week at a hearing to consider President Bush's nomination of his successor.

The Democrats said the White House should explain why it asked Carlin to resign. He said in a letter to Sen. Carl M. Levin (D-Mich.) that White House counsel Alberto R. Gonzales called him Dec. 5 and told him "the administration would like to appoint a new archivist." Carlin said, "I asked why, and there was no reason given."

Critics have suggested Bush may have wanted a new archivist to help keep his or his father's sensitive presidential records under wraps. Under the Presidential Records Act of 1978, many of President George H.W. Bush's papers are due to become public in January.

The 1984 law establishing the National Archives and Records Administration provides that the archivist will serve an indefinite term and can be replaced if he resigns or is removed by the president. If he is removed, "the president shall communicate the reasons for any such removal" to Congress, the law says.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: archivist; classified; documents; nara; resignation; sandyberger
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It couldn't have been because of Sandy Berger, could it?

/Sarcasm off

1 posted on 07/26/2004 5:28:29 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: sr4402

December?

Maybe, just maybe, the guy DIDN'T do his job properly and allowed someone to stuff "code word" level documents down his pants and walk out.

You think?


2 posted on 07/26/2004 5:31:53 AM PDT by nuffsenuff
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To: sr4402

Why does an archivist get fired, but Berger does not get arrested?


3 posted on 07/26/2004 5:32:27 AM PDT by Mamzelle (for a post-neo conservatism)
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To: sr4402

i mean this is't like the prez fired the whole travel staff is it?


4 posted on 07/26/2004 5:32:45 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it with something for you))
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To: sr4402

Yes, this timing stuff gets a new meaning each day that passes.

Isn't John Carlin a fromer democrat governor from Kansas?


5 posted on 07/26/2004 5:33:09 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: sr4402
DEMOCRATS AS THEY SEE THEMSELVES:

DEMOCRATS AS THE AMERICAN TRAITORS THEY ARE:


6 posted on 07/26/2004 5:37:41 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Re: Protection from up on high, Keyser Sose has nothing on Sandy Berger, the DNC Burglar)
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To: sr4402
Two weeks after the call from Gonzales, Carlin told the president he would resign -- the Dec. 19 letter contained no hint of what prompted his decision. Democrats on the Senate Governmental Affairs Committee said it amounted to a forced removal, and Bush should be required to give his reasons for it.

Yes, please, give the reasons for it. Better still, let's have a public hearing. Could it have anything to do with the fact that Archive clerks approached Carlin about Berger and Carlin rebuffed them or Carlin tipped off Berger that he was being watched (via Lindsey, perhaps)?

Wonder if Carlin has retained a lawyer as of late? It would be telling if he had.

7 posted on 07/26/2004 5:38:23 AM PDT by randita
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To: Mamzelle
Archivist of the United States John W. Carlin was pushed by the White House in December to submit his resignation without being given any reason, Senate Democrats disclosed last week at a hearing to consider President Bush's nomination of his successor.

Sandy Berger to 'replace' John W. Carlin at Archives?

'ROTFLOL'....?

/sarcasm

8 posted on 07/26/2004 5:38:51 AM PDT by maestro
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To: sr4402

'"I asked why, and there was no reason given."'

Gee, sounds pretty gentlemanly of GW, doncha think, not to "leak" the story, with the real reason that there was corruption and sabotage and carelessness goin' on...


9 posted on 07/26/2004 5:39:03 AM PDT by bitt
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To: sr4402
Asked about an executive order restricting release of presidential records that Bush issued in 2001, Weinstein expressed distaste for it as a private citizen.

Agreed. Executive Order 13233 is a bad thing. It violates 200 years of precedent - beginning with Geo. Washington - on the question of presidential papers.

To those interested, do a Google on "Executive Order 13233", and read it, bearing in mind that by precedent, presidents have for the most part had control over their adminsitration's papers throughout U.S. history. Some limiting statutes have been put in place since Watergate, but the changes have been gradual and mostly supportive of the precedent.

Executive Order 13233 turns that entire relationship upside-down.

10 posted on 07/26/2004 5:39:28 AM PDT by angkor
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To: Just mythoughts

An achivist fired? Could it be. We never did hear the names of the archivists involved (and I mean involved) with Berger's "selective stripping" of the archives.


11 posted on 07/26/2004 5:41:12 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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"The Democrats said the White House should explain why it asked Carlin to resign."

Well ... er ... uh ... because Mr. Carlin was looking very peaked, and we thought an outside job would help his skin condition?

Or how about, Mr. Carlin became so exhausted from fetching files for Mr. Burgler, his health was in jepardy?

Or maybe ...

12 posted on 07/26/2004 5:41:56 AM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, red white and blue, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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Another piece in the puzzle falls into place... Carlin either made the call to Lindsey himself (as a Clinton appointee he knew what to do) or authorized the call... either way he is responsible... Wonder if his phone was tapped too.

Looks more and more like someone at a lower level saw this corruption and tipped off the FBI/DOJ... These guys (Berger, Carlin, Lindsey) may have been under investigation for some time before they found out about it.

Still think that there were wire taps at some point and this story just makes it more likely.
13 posted on 07/26/2004 5:50:25 AM PDT by RedEyeJack
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To: Just mythoughts

Remember John Carlin served at the Governor's meetings as the same time as Clinton in the early 80's..


14 posted on 07/26/2004 5:51:34 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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"The Democrats said the White House should explain why it asked Carlin to resign."

The DemocRATs aren't too bright for bringing this public, are they?

15 posted on 07/26/2004 5:52:08 AM PDT by TommyDale ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." --Hillary Clinton)
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To: Just mythoughts
Not only is John Carlin the former DemocRAT governor of Kansas, he was appointed by the Clinton Administration to the post. Carlin is a very partisan DemocRAT who was given the post no doubt for partisan reasons.

Since Bush had let a number of appointees stay in place (read lots at the Justice Dept. and State Dept. who have caused no end of problems with false leaks, etc.)he, Bush, gets to appoint whom ever he wants at any time without giving any reason for the request for resignations. Appointees serve at the "pleasure" of the President of the United States, whoever that is.

16 posted on 07/26/2004 5:53:18 AM PDT by zerosix
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To: sr4402
Archivist of the United States John W. Carlin was pushed by the White House in December to submit his resignation without being given any reason, Senate Democrats disclosed last week at a hearing to consider President Bush's nomination of his successor.

It's the Presdent's right to replace staff as it suits him.

I suppose the DEMO(N)cRATS prefer the way Hillary handled it with the White House Travel Office - call in the FBI and falsely accuse the outgoing staff of a crime.

17 posted on 07/26/2004 6:21:09 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: nuffsenuff
December?

No, earlier than that. Conveniently buried at the bottom of the WaPost piece is the following:

At the same time, Weinstein offered a chronology that reflected an early White House determination to get rid of Carlin. Weinstein said he was invited to meet with Dina Powell, director of presidential personnel, on Sept. 23 to talk about the possibility of his nomination.

This jives with the WaPost's own reporting that the first noticeable theft by Berger occurred on September 2, according to the archives staff.

Berger denies that he was contacted by archives staff after that incident, and only admits to the October 2 incident.

So, Berger had help from Carlin it appears, and denies the September incident because it links to Carlin's replacement, and the WaPost chooses selective amnesia.

Berger who?

18 posted on 07/26/2004 6:26:32 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: sr4402
Click here for Carlin's bio at the Archives. They haven't pulled it yet.

Guess what? The guy's a Toon appointee.

I hope he's subpoenaed.

19 posted on 07/26/2004 6:29:20 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: zerosix

The plot thickens!!!!

No wonder President Bush brought so many "OLD" timers with him into office.

"IF" President Bush has just swept the offices clean like the Clintons did with the US Attorneys we probably know less than leaving them in place and monitoring their work.


20 posted on 07/26/2004 6:38:32 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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