Posted on 07/25/2004 7:06:08 PM PDT by wagglebee
Freed Israeli nuclear spy Mordechai Vanunu said in an interview published today that Israel was behind the 1963 assassination of U.S. President John F. Kennedy, prompting some Israeli officials to hope aloud the far-fetched comments will hurt Vanunu's credibility.
Vanunu, a former nuclear technician who was recently released from Israeli prison after serving an 18-year sentence for exposing Israel's nuclear program at Dimona to Britain's Sunday Times, has been barred from leaving the country, talking to the media or meeting with foreigners.
But the London-based al-Hayat newspaper published an interview yesterday it claims is the first Vanunu has given, in which the spy said that according to "near-certain indications," Kennedy was assassinated due to "pressure he exerted on then head of government, David Ben-Gurion, to shed light on Dimona's nuclear reactor."
"We do not know which irresponsible Israeli prime minister will take office and decide to use nuclear weapons in the struggle against neighboring Arab countries," Vanunu was quoted as saying. "What has already been exposed about the weapons Israel is holding can destroy the region and kill millions."
Vanunu, who would not be in a position to know the current security apparatus of Israel's nuclear plant, also claims the Middle East is at risk of a "second Chernobyl" in the event of an accident at the Dimona plant. He said an earthquake could cause fissures to the core that would create a massive radiation leak "threatening millions."
Jordan should test residents in the border regions with Israel to be sure that they have not already been exposed to any radiation and administer the necessary medicine, Venunu said. He also criticized the visit to Israel early this month by the head of the Atomic Energy Agency, Mohammed el-Baradei.
"He (Baradei) should have refused to have visited Israel (because) he was not allowed to inspect the nuclear reactor," Vanunu said.
According to al-Hayat, Vanunu now lives "with his Palestinian friends" in east Jerusalem.
Israeli officials would not comment on what actions they would take against Vanunu, who had agreed as part of the terms of his release, that he would not grant media interviews.
"The opinions on Vanunu are divided," Ra'anan Gissin, a spokesman for Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, told reporters. "Some say let him speak and it adds to the ambiguity policy, while others say the more he speaks the more he raises tensions, particularly in the current atmosphere."
Gissin said Vanunu's comments regarding JFK work to discredit the former spy. "This is something you would expect from [Yasser] Arafat," Gissin said.
Separately, an Israeli source told WorldNetDaily that after the Kennedy assassination, Israeli intelligence carried out an exercise to see how shooter Lee Harvey Oswald, who used a mail-order, clip-fed 6.5mm rifle, was able to kill Kennedy from his angle on the sixth floor of a nearby building.
The simulation exercise reportedly featured expert marksmen using more powerful equipment set up on tripods and utilized a laser direction-finder to show where the people in Kennedy's car would have been hit after the marksmen fired. The source said the exercise showed it was "nearly impossible for Oswald to have done what he did."
I know, when you stop and think about it, it's rediculous that this incredible tyranny and repression is happening only 90 miles from the Land of the Free. We could eliminate that sick little regime in about 3 days and it wouldn't take a massive deployment to another continent. It just makes you want to "saddle up your boys and take a hard line against those gangsters."
For the record, I am pretty sure that Oswald killed JFK but the second guess I have is the mob.
The timing of this is very suspicious...
what did Bush know, and when did he know it?
Only the most adament WC defenders do not admit the gun was crap. As for the need for repairs it is in the WC interviews which describe the improperly attached scope and misaligned sights. As are the comments regarding the lack of sighting the scope in the interviews of gunshop personnel one of whom claims to have attached a scope to a rifle for LHO even though it was ordered with the scope. Nor is it clear which gun was ordered by Oswald since the one pictured in the ad is not the same length as the one shipped.
You cannot show me ONE statement by any person that claims they saw LHO shooting that gun EVER unless it is the time that an "Oswald" was shooting at someone else's targets at a gun range. Nor one shred of evidence that he EVER bought ANY ammo for it or any firearm. The bolt was VERY difficult to work. This firearm was a standing joke to the Italian soldiers armed with it who called it a "mercy rifle" because of its inaccuracy.
The biggest bunch of lies in any book I have read about this (dozens of them) was in Case Closed which has had its accuracy challenged and corrected in Case Reopened.
But it really gets bad when people try and tell me with a straight face that the violent slimeball mafia associate, Jack Ruby, killed LHO because he cared for Jackie. Mobsters HATED JFK and are the most likely force behind his killing and Ruby had been sent down from Chicago to organize mob interests in Dallas. This was why he was so close to the police that he had free run of the Police station Nov. 22-4. How did HE know the correct name of the organization Oswald was alledgedly working with when the District Attorney did not?
No one can trace the rifle getting to New Orleans or FROM New Orleans. All descriptions of LHO moving the bag (supposedly containing the rifle) into the TBD indicate that it was NOT the rifle since they agree that the package was shorter than the longest piece of it disassembled. No oil on bag, statements by guy in charge of paper at TBD says (per WC) that LHO never got it there as was claimed. Nor did anyone see him taking a bag to the Paine's home Nov. 21.
Oswald did not dislike JFK and admired him to some extent. He stated the truth that removing the president would only bring an even more anti-Castroite to power, LBJ. The total lack of a motive for LHO is one of the weakest links in the WC case. What could make less sense than to kill a big wheel for your own glory then refuse to admit you did it?
One cannot even get the smallest details of this event to make sense when viewed from the lone nut perspective. And one of the strangest is the purchase of a cheap PoS rifle through the mails (thus leaving a clear trail to the purchaser) rather than a BETTER and CHEAPER gun from any of hundreds of shops in Texas with NO easy trail. Nor can ANY witness show that LHO picked up this order from the P.O. since he was at work when the pickup was made far from the PO. There isn't even a signature which is routine when picking up packages. (All this is from the WC report and exhibits.)
If there was just ONE piece of clear and unambiguous evidence that LHO did it I would be happy to see it. It is also very interesting to observe that Marina does not support her early testimony and now does not believe Lee did the deed. Much of the supposedly damning info came from her.
Have you ever fired a Mannlicher-Carcano?
I have. Not a great gun--but not as bad as you describe.
The scope was removed and reinstalled prior to the test-firing (they were checking the weapon for prints). That would tend to destroy any boresighting.
It is no work of art but is accurate, amply powerful, and reliable. What more does it need to be?
All real assassins use only those weapons approved by Hollyweird. (c8
will Michael Moore be doing a "documentary" on Vanunu, the new darling of the left?
Idiotic. There is plenty of evidence against Oswald. The conspiracy junk is off the wall!!
Raving lunatic sounds just about right.
Well you have to keep in mind that many details of an assassination done by a lone nut will not make sense, because it was done by an irrational nut. It's crucial to keep this in mind when you analyze the WC report. Only a nut would order an inferior, more expensive gun by mail order instead of buying a better gun at a gun shop. Only a nut would fire at the President from his own workplace instead of taking some time off and firing from another location. So if you doubt the WC report because Oswald's actions don't make sense, you're saying that the actions of a crazy person should still be rational. This is not a valid approach and premise for analyzing the information about the JFK asassination.
I was in Dealy Plaza last March, and clearly the best shot for an assassin was from the wall behind the grassy knoll, and the getaway on foot would be faster than from the TBD. And yet numerous witnesses saw Oswald firing from the TBD. So there's another irrational decision by LHO to shoot from the TBD. There's ample evidence that LHO fired and hit Kennedy and Connelly from the TBD, but it's impossible to prove a negative and rule out other shots fired from the grassy knoll or other buildings. Personally, I though Posner made a very strong case for Oswald having fired from the TBD, but Posner was too quick to rule out shots fired from other locations, and he wasted ink in lengthy efforts to discredit conspiracy theorists. I'll have to take another look at his book tonight, see what he says about the quality of the gun, and evaluate his facts and reasoning.
He's been in Israeli prisons for 18 years. If he has been penned up with Muslim Terrorists all that time, it's a good possibility it now believes "the Jews did it" is the answer to all of life's problems.
No problem. It's hard to tell when reading postings whether people are serious or sarcastic. A lot of people actually believe Johnson was involved, as in the Oliver Stone movie.
Cheaper than $12.78? Man there were some Rifle bargains available in Dallas in '63.
Nor is it clear which gun was ordered by Oswald since the one pictured in the ad is not the same length as the one shipped.
You pay $12.78 including postage, are you really going to bitch if they send you a 36" carbine instead of the 40" rifle illustrated in the ad, if you even notice or recall which version the ad illustrated?
Oh, I almost forgot the other's were the CIA, FBI, Mafia, Castro and of course Russia.
The Kennedys were a really arrogant bunch at that time and had made a lot of enemies. Any number of people may have helped Oswald. Then there was this 14 year-old kid living in West Texas at the time who owned a hunting rifle. His name is George W. Bush. Now liberals believe that on 11/21/63 he jumped on a bus to Dallas with his rifle in a box and.........(/sarcasm off.)
I was 24 at the time, I remember it as though it happened yesterday. I was setting in the living room with my 3 month old daughter across my lap rubbing her back because she had colic and had the misfortun to see it happen, also saw Ruby murder Oswald and Bobby Kennedy being murdered. Yes the Kennedy's were arrogant and in fact still are, especially 'Teddy the Marxist'.
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