Posted on 07/25/2004 11:30:37 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
Does Air Force One have nameless, anonymous, or mysterious Mid Easterners on board while cruising at 30,000 feet? Can you imagine the utter shock and concern of the President, his family and the Secret Service if a number of suspicious, mysterious Mid Easterners started to board Air Force One?
We all know this would never happen as the Secret Service and Homeland Security would never allow this to occur, as the safety and security of the President and his family are a priority and paramount.
My point is, why are the rest of the flying public subjected to this on a daily basis? We have all heard the endless warnings, frightening stories, and nightmare scenarios. We have even been told by the Director of Homeland Security, "We will be hit and hit hard". Yet strange, mysterious Mid Easterners, that have only been in our country a day or two, are on board our flights as I write this.
Imagine boarding a flight with you wife and kids and seeing multiple, suspicious Mid Easterners boarding the aircraft. Imagine your thoughts and concern on a long flight. In my opinion, this is completely unacceptable.
Imagine, if it happens again, and four or five or more flights are brought down killing many hundreds or thousands?
Then what? Will our government continue to carry on business as usual? At what point will the safety of the rest of Americans be a priority and a paramount concern?
I agree with that.
Your profiling again Joe. I'm calling CAIR!
Thanks for the ping Happy!
Maybe we Americans need to do the profiling by refusing to fly on planes with 5 to 14 Mideastern men. Raise a rumpus!!
So would I, Joe. The ridiculous accusation of "racial profiling" pales in the light of the fact of the nationalities of the monsters who took over the planes. This is not to say that all Muslims are guilty, but I sure as hell wouldn't get on a plane if there was a group of middle eastern guys on it. The facts of 9/11 shouldn't be dismissed so lightly by those who accuse Americans of racial profiling.
Then how do you explain the flight from LA to the east just recently where they discovered 20 percent of the passengers were in our country illegally? They just happened to catch this one....You can imagine how many are not detected.
Thanks for that link gal. Quite interesting.
You and me both, sister. I can always deal with a bit a trouble, but I have no desire to deal with it at 30,000 feet.
No, not at all.
I am basically saying that *anyone* from the Mid East or any other suspect country entering this country should not do so until the *thorough* DOJ/FBI background check is conducted. Are you suggesting Bush would not want to ensure adequate safety for his fellow Americans?
Also I would immediately and dramatically reduce *all* immigration from the Mid East and all other suspect countries. This should have been done at midnight on 911. Again, safety first for *our* people. It's just common sense.
You have a problem with this?
Annie Jacobsen's recent piece for WomensWallStreet.Com made waves. Her account of flying with her family while 14 Middle Eastern passengers acted in a threatening and apparently coordinated manner makes for a terrifying read. Her article captures her sickening sense of both uncertainty and inevitability as what might possibly have been the next 9/11 unfolded around her.
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I talked to James Cullen of Anthem Artists who confirms that Nour Mehana's large band did arrive on Northwest Flight 327. Some of them came in from Detroit, and some from Lebanon. Cullen says they never said anything about a disturbance on the flight to him, even though "I stayed in the same hotel, they were nice, they stayed right above me." He said that they were fine musicians, put on a great show, and he would work with them again in the future.
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Anyway, this is good news. Nour Mehana's band might have acted like jerks on the plane, but it appears safe to say they were not casing Northwest Airlines for a suicidal assault, and we can quit worrying about this being a "dry run" or an aborted attack. And if Jacobsen was wondering why one man in a dark suit and sunglasses sat in first class while everyone else flew coach, well, it seems pretty clear that this was the Big Mehana himself.
And their answers to the FBI and TSA were enough for them to be sent on their way.
Do you think the FBI has been shy about dealing with potential terrorists since 9/11?
"You have a problem with this?"
Sure, It's simply not possible. Setting up this "system" itself would involve closing our country to anyone from your unspecified "Mid East or any other suspect country"s
for perhaps a year or more. Tens of thousands of field agents would need to be trained and located in all of these countries to perform the *thorough* DOJ/FBI background checks ( also making them and their families who relocate with them targets )
Obviously these countries will reciprocate, and demand to be allowed to send THEIR agents over here to run background checks on any American desiring to enter their country.
... and after all this time and money is spent, it would not work, as they would simply obtain passports from countries that are not on your blacklist.
Instead, we allow in circus acts, musical bands, and anyone else that decides they want to come here.
Bet the rent, if we are hit again, there will be hell to pay for the politicos that have decided that immigration is more important than the safety and security of Americans.
No, not at all.
I am basically saying that *anyone* from the Mid East or any other suspect country entering this country should not do so until the *thorough* DOJ/FBI background check is conducted. Are you suggesting Bush would not want to ensure adequate safety for his fellow Americans?
Also I would immediately and dramatically reduce *all* immigration from the Mid East and all other suspect countries. This should have been done at midnight on 911. Again, safety first for *our* people. It's just common sense.
You have a problem with this?
Sure, It's simply not possible.
Oh jezuz. So now it's not possible to reform our *own* immigration policies? First we are told we cannot protect our very own borders, now we are told we can't reform our own immigration policys or conduct back ground checks on people that want to come here?
Setting up this "system" itself would involve closing our country to anyone from your unspecified "Mid East or any other suspect country"s for perhaps a year or more.
So what?
Tens of thousands of field agents would need to be trained and located in all of these countries to perform the *thorough* DOJ/FBI background checks ( also making them and their families who relocate with them targets )
LOL! That's bull sh*t. You send 5 agents to each country and make them wait in line like we do at the DMV or any other government agency.
Our own government can hire literally hundreds of thousands to collect taxes, yet we can't hire a few to protect the safety of security of Americans????
Obviously these countries will reciprocate, and demand to be allowed to send THEIR agents over here to run background checks on any American desiring to enter their country.
Oh sh*t.....Now we are afraid these terrorist countries are going to make demands? LOL! F-um! This political correctness is going to kill us!
and after all this time and money is spent, it would not work, as they would simply obtain passports from countries that are not on your blacklist.
Oh man, they say the same danm thing about our very own borders. "It's impossible, the borders are too big, it can't be done, it's not fair to hard working Mexicans, it will cost to much money, we don't have enough man power, it will hurt our economy", etc etc....
We all may as well just roll over, and give this country away. It seems America has become a fat wimp that won't even bother to protect itself because it's too hard and difficult.....
Yeowza!
Why is it you can't yell "fire" in say, a theatre, or say the word "bomb" at the airport but 14 guys can supposedly scare the h*ll out of people on a plane by pretending to be up to something terrible? Yea, they were detained and questioned but then FMA blamed it on the journalist for overreacting. Makes no sense to me.
We were told by Ashcroft to be on guard and aware. False alarm or not we need to report what we see. PC stands for"pure cr*p".
Look who's talking! In your posts, you regularly bring race into the discussion.
I didn't say anything even remotely close to that.
Your simplistic attitude is funny ... basically build a big wall around the country and that will "save" us.
"I didn't say anything even remotely close to that."
In your posts to me, your point hinges on the " *thorough* DOJ/FBI background check" to keep us safe which you will not give the resources to accomplish - "LOL! That's bull sh*t. You send 5 agents to each country...."
Build the box, then close the lid... Gee - that will keep us safe and warm...
You will have to excuse me if you mentioned some ideas that might actually work in your replies to others, but this entire thread is just a vanity post isn't it ?
Your spin is speeding up the rotation of the earth. Please stop before we all fly off.
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