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I searched FR, didn't see this posted. I can't believe that the EU will last more than a few years, with cultural divisions so thoroughly delineated.
1 posted on 07/23/2004 8:29:50 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: JerseyHighlander

Any reason the homosexuals were not sentenced to jail for offending the Swedish pastor?


2 posted on 07/23/2004 8:33:31 PM PDT by tomball
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To: JerseyHighlander

Coming to a church near you - if these "hate crime" and "hate speech" laws are allowed to be passed.....


3 posted on 07/23/2004 8:35:26 PM PDT by TheBattman (The failure to defend the "traditional" family unit will ultimately be the beginning of the end.)
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To: JerseyHighlander

Europe is headed back to the dark ages. We shouldn't flatter ourselves much, since we're only about a decade behind them, if that much.


4 posted on 07/23/2004 8:35:41 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Fox News is Fair and Balanced. Move-on.org is Bare and Imbalanced.)
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To: JerseyHighlander

Typical socialist/liberal idiocy.

Just because someone condemns destructive, sinful behaviour does NOT mean that it is hateful.

Suppose a child is caught smoking dope. Does telling the child that it is destructive, sinful behaviour mean that you hate the child?

Idiotic leftists not only ruin society, the trash the language. One American oaf went so far as to debate the meaning of is.


6 posted on 07/23/2004 8:40:04 PM PDT by Robert Taylor
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Coming soon to a church near you !


7 posted on 07/23/2004 8:40:17 PM PDT by Freesofar ( PEACE KILLS !)
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To: JerseyHighlander; scripter
Liberalism as a religion finds it necessary to silence any opposing beliefs.
11 posted on 07/23/2004 8:42:58 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: JerseyHighlander
This of course bears out the Biblical predictions that in the end times evil men would wax worse and worse, and would become haters of good.

I am quite sure a few months in jail for doing good beats an eternity in Hell.

12 posted on 07/23/2004 8:44:48 PM PDT by Jorge
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Shades of the future!

Religious freedom could never be used as a reason to offend people.

Offending, the highest crime of the land.

13 posted on 07/23/2004 8:46:16 PM PDT by jwalburg (Hatriots for Kerry)
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To: *Homosexual Agenda; EdReform; scripter; GrandMoM; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; ...

Homosexual Agenda Ping - A lot here. The incarceration of the Swedish pastor for criticizing homosexual behavior is creating discussion and reaction in other countries. Here's what's happening in Slovakia.

Some Swedish homosexual spokespeople says:

"According to ENI, Soren Andersson from the Swedish Federation for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender rights, said that religious freedom could never be used as a reason to offend people."

A gem, right? What about homosexual activists offending religious (or non-religious) people? That's ok. In fact, in this twisted world view, it's righteous activity.

Here's another telling statement by someone from the dark side:

"...the Church that is an institution that should spread reconciliation and good coexistence among people..."

So that's what religion is for? I thought that's what mediation was for. I thought religion's purpose is to reconcile individual humans with God.

This is very, very bad.

Let me know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.


16 posted on 07/23/2004 8:52:01 PM PDT by little jeremiah ("You're possibly the most ignorant, belligerent, and loathesome poster on FR currently." - tdadams)
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To: JerseyHighlander; MadIvan

EU is fascism


17 posted on 07/23/2004 8:52:45 PM PDT by GeronL (Time for a Constitutional Amendment banning Government giving money away to anyone or anything...)
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To: JerseyHighlander

"Swedish pastor sentenced to jail for offending homosexuals"


Meanwhile back on the old USA ranch, teachers are giving their students rainbow flavored condom tasting tests and on the clock librarians are trolling gossip boards and chat room while the library shelves are being stacked with kiddie cartoon porn and another husband pretending to be an college undergrad murders his pregnant wife because he couldn't live up to his expectations.

News again at 7am

What a world, what a world


18 posted on 07/23/2004 8:53:15 PM PDT by SunnySide
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Who'da thunk it 20 years ago...the government of Slovakia protesting religious persecution by the government of Sweden?


24 posted on 07/23/2004 9:08:22 PM PDT by Loyalist
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Christ pointed out and condemned sin....he charged his followers with doing the same...
as well as telling people the good news....they can be forgiven for their sins and delivered from the lifestyle of sin...through faith in Jesus Christ...

Now if that is a hate crime...well they will have to go after every Christian who is doing his/her duty...

molon labe
25 posted on 07/23/2004 9:11:18 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: JerseyHighlander

Coming to a town near you thanks to hate crime legislation. Chilling thought, isn't it?

But then Christians know they will be tortured, jailed, beheaded and killed for the faith in the end times.

In the meantime, we sit idly by while our politicians pass the very laws that will hang us. Vote them out of office.


26 posted on 07/23/2004 9:16:26 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING (He is faithful!)
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"In Europe people are starting to be jailed for saying what they think," Palko said.

We've heard that before. We're getting tired of saving you from fascist tyrants.
We're busy fighting the socialist liberal crap that you exported to our country.
It's getting old with you Euroweenies.

Now it's jail, next it's gas. Then we have to save your a$$.

29 posted on 07/23/2004 9:46:51 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
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"Ake Green, who was found guilty of offending homosexuals in a sermon that took place in 2003."

This is a preview of coming attractions. It's coming to a Church near you, soon.

31 posted on 07/23/2004 10:02:27 PM PDT by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" Pope Urban II)
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"sentencing of the Pentecostal pastor, Ake green who was found guilty of offending homosexuals in a sermon"

" a left wing liberal ideology was trying to introduce tyranny

The Judeo-Christian communities in Europe better wake up, as well as here in the US. This is a scary glimpse into the future unless we stop the Tyranny of the Minority. Every Christian and Jewish person should see this article.

33 posted on 07/23/2004 10:08:19 PM PDT by fly_so_free (Never underestimate the treachery of the democrat party- Save USA,-Vote a Dem out of office)
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Calling all fence sitters...time is coming where the sides will be obvious and decisions will have to be made. God is already sounding the call....Are you for me or against me. Separation of sheep and goats. Seems we are losing our safe grey areas of complacancy. I don't think I have ever seen such a polarization, and so evenly split. But bottom line.... God says he has a remnant...which is merely a piece of the whole. We are going to be out numbered and we will have to make our stand. We don't lose, keep the faith, stay strong and get as close to Him as you can, its the ONLY safe place to be.


35 posted on 07/23/2004 10:20:59 PM PDT by BriarBey
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You can be imprisoned for offending someone??!!!

Does that mean that Jacques Chirac has to be imprisoned (due to the fact that he offends me) or does he get off because he's a government official?

40 posted on 07/23/2004 10:42:21 PM PDT by cookcounty (LBJ sent him to VN. Nixon expressed him home. And JfK's too dumb to tell them apart!)
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To: JerseyHighlander

Something that I notice a lot among conservatives in theor reponse to this type of outrage are charges of hypocrisy, or how foolish and ridiculous this behavior is.

This type of thing is not hypocritical or ridiculous within the doctrines of leftist thought, though. To leftists, the world is divided into three groups:

1. The "oppressed others" - minorities, homosexuals, women, the workers, etc. As these are the designated victims of oppression, they are not capable of committing evil acts. Any bigotry, murder, and even genocide carried out by members of aid groups is seen as being reactive in nature and therefore morally justified.

2. The "oppressors." Members of this group who fail to embrace leftist dogmas deserve no mercy. They are completely 100 percent evil and mmust be destroyed through any number of means: reverse discrimination, hate crimes laws (which apply only to the oppressors), destruction of culture, and reduction (through unlimited immigration) to minority status in their own native lands. The oppressors are a) Christians (and Orthodox Jews to a degree); b) whites (and any minorities who embrace the majority culture); c) heterosexuals; d) males.

3.) The last group is the smallest. They are the annointed ones - the true believers in the new order. Because they are leading the way to the great utopia, anything they do is perfectly justfiable. This is why, for example, you see feminists who rail about sexual harassment twist themselves into amazing pretzel shapes when standing up for their men - Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy. Those men are members of the annointed, thus they are categorically incapable of doing anything from a purely base motive. They must be defended at all costs. That's also the reason we'll never see an Imam sent to prison for advocating that Christians and Jews be put to the sword under leftist hate crime statutes, unless its such a bad case they might face a real public revolt if they didn't do something.

The evil oppresors must be destroyed and the righteous oppressed must be elevated under the enlightened guidance of the annointed visionaries. Leftism is a religion, not a logical methof of thinking about political issues.


45 posted on 07/23/2004 11:21:46 PM PDT by Bogolyubski
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