Posted on 07/20/2004 7:44:02 PM PDT by BILL_C
What do some of the craziest events in recent American History all have in common? No, this is not another Blue Dress story, but it is about the biggest crime Bill Clinton committed as president. It was such a small political lie for him but it turned out to have incredible ramifications to our country. Slick Willy may be headed for the title of worst president in United States history, in fact, he might even qualify for the biggest traitor label.
And further more, you don’t even suspect it happened.
Just what was Sandy Berger doing stuffing documents into his clothes while preparing for the 9-11 hearings? Lanny Davis was on natioal news earlier today saying that the leak right before the Democratic Convention just had to be politically motivated.
Did you ever wonder how literally hundreds of witnesses could see a mass murder but the official report not only ignores these citizens but offers solutions that are physically impossible? Conclusions such as this are possible whenever the conspiracy label is attached. And what was all the fuss about Jamie Gorelick being on the 9-11commission? Why did we get bored seeing Richard Clark attacking President Bush in the 9-11 hearings? If you’re one of Bill Clinton’s boys or girls that was in his inner circle, the noose is tightening.
They know what happened but you don’t know, not yet.
In 1994, Bill Clinton was shocked at the Republican massacre in the congressional election. His chances of reelection seemed dim. Drastic action was called for if he was going to see a second term.
The first challenge to Bill Clinton was the Federal Building bombing at Oklahoma City in 1995. As documented in Jayana Davis’ book “The Third Terrorist”, McVeigh and Nichol’s were not the only ones involved in the bombing. It seems that there were Iraqi defectors from Gulf War 1 in OKC. One of the Iraqi soldiers got out of the truck with McVeigh a few minutes before the truck bomb exploded. You may recall the story during the Nichols trial in OKC earlier this spring concerning the surveillance tape that agreed with witnesses showing two men getting out of the truck. Later, the FBI said there was no surveillance tape. This same Iraqi later moved to Boston and was working at Boston Logan Int’l airport the morning of 9-11-01. Is it a small world or was something going on here? The FBI has never investigated.
In Jayna’s book, she ties the Iraqis together with McVeigh and Nichols. Read the book and listen to her interview with Jim Quinn from Pittsburgh in the WARROOM which was aired April 20, 2004. It is in the archives. It will open your eyes.
Why did the investigation focus on two Americans when numerous witnesses testified that others were involved? And of course the initial reports detailed that two middle Eastern men were wanted? What happened?
Bill Clinton knew that if it was shown that foreign terrorists were killing Americans in Oklahoma City his chance of being reelected would vanish. Jamie Gorelick was tasked with removing middle eastern terrorists from the equation and concluding that two right wing extremists motivated by Waco were the cause, the only cause. There was no Middle Eastern conspiracy by presidential order.
Flash ahead to July, 1996 and an airplane leaving from JFK in New York City crashes off Long Island. Hundreds of witnesses see a missile shoot the plane from the sky but the investigation concludes that it was a center fuel tank explosion. Jack Cashill in his book on flight TWA 800 faces the same problem that Jayna Davis did with the Oklahoma City bombing a year earlier. WHY? Witnesses saw one thing but the investigation reported something else.
The crash of TWA 800 occurred before the Democratic convention. As in Oklahoma City, Jamie Gorelick was tasked with removing terrorism from the equation. Richard Clark supplied the center fuel tank scenario, the CIA supplied the computer simulation and Bill Clinton was home free.
Flash ahead to 9-11-01: Bill Clinton has said several times that he first thought of Bin Laden when he heard about the WTC attacks. Actually it had to be Al Qaeda, not Iraq, or his “brilliant” plan might be discovered. But Clinton was not out of the woods yet.
The 9-11 commission is tasked with finding the truth. Jamie Gorelick is on the commission to ensure they don’t. Sandy Berger while preparing to testify is caught removing classified documents by hiding them under his clothes. Anyone who has ever held a TOP SECRET clearance can relate to the sinking feeling he must have in his stomach today as the news is released.
The lies that turned to conspiracy theories led to thousands dying in NYC and Washington, DC on 9-11. Instead of Bill Clinton taking care of business in Iraq in 1995 when Iraqi defectors were caught killing Americans he covered up their involvement to get reelected. His co-conspirators are still trying to cover up the biggest lie in American history.
One of the questions now facing Sandy Berger is will he get a deal? I’m sure he watches Law and Order occasionally so he’s probably familiar with the process. Sell out Bill Clinton and the democratic party and you may get out of jail one day. Otherwise, it just doesn’t look very good.
Bill Clinton, the noose is tightening around your neck. Your legacy is the least of your problems. Everyone understands you’re a natural born liar but most didn’t even suspect the havoc you caused with you lies in 1995.
Now everyone will know it wasn’t an intelligence failure. It was Slick Willy all along.
This is only the beginning. Berger's trouser/sock problems are NOT going away.
That has been my question as well, but I think the answer may be that (according to this conspiracy theory) that it was Iraq and not a terrorist group that were in on OKC and TWA800. A terrorist group like AQ is proud to claim responsibility (like 9/11) since they can hide in caves. A country like Iraq certainly wouldn't want to take public credit. Saddam would have been asking for a nuke down his smokestack. Clinton wanted re-election, so there was a tacit agreement, perhaps, between Clinton and Saddam? So then Bush and company come into office. Shortly after, Bush learns the truth, and, yes, starts planning to take out Saddam out. Saddam then welcomes the 9/11 attack by AQ thinking the heat is off him and on to OBL. But only for so long.
This might explain why Bush was reluctant to have a 9/11 commission or testify or have Rice testify before it. Perhaps he was afraid the trail would go back to the OKC/TWA/Iraq connection. As someone else suggested, he may be trying to protect the Presidency, not Clinton.
I have always felt that there was MORE to going into Iraq than we were being told. I thought once we got in there we'd find out what that was. I thought maybe we were protecting sources or not tipping our hand as to what all we knew. So far the other shoe hasn't dropped, so I have been still thinking that there has to be something more to it than we've seen thus far. Yes, it's a conspiracy theory, but it's a lot more likely than the democrat lunatic theories.
Great job...looking forward to the book!
He (Senator Arlen Spector) promised to look into it, considering the Burton investigation. I've called his office a few times to follow up. I don't think he is following up. Surprise!!
I've long thought this was what the Dems' absolute hysteria in Florida, 2000, was all about. They simply could NOT let Bush win -- there was too much dirt which could be uncovered if they weren't in control.
This is a well thought out view of the situation.
I am glad that I read it.
We lived in Oklahoma in April '95. I vividly recall the All Points Bulletin being sent out over the air waves regarding the brown/maroon truck and ME men. And then - poof - the entire APB changed and not another mentione of the truck or the men. Recommend everyone reading Jayna Davis' book, The Third Terrorist.
Considering Webb's fate, he may decide it's safer to talk than to clam up for the Clintons.
Excellent post.
This is his most egregious abuse of power that is apparent for the present.
Second most egregious: Waco.
In the end, what clinton delivered to China from our labs is likely to be the worst result of his presidency. It may take some time for that to flower fully.
It seems improbable to me that all the documents in the room where Sandy set himself to pilfering were solo originals. If copies exist, and because the Archival staff (no longer working under threat and intimidation by the former administration) stepped forward and said, "Things are missing since Berger's been here," and since they were able to name which documents departed with the former joke of a National Security Advisor, then the copies are going to make Berger & Clinton into a nice toasty mess.
I tend to think the same .. this was leaked from the left side
I totally believe you, but the media will cover this up for them once again, and the truth will be suppressed. The spin is about who dared to leak this information and right before the demonrat convention. That is the focus, and most American's will fall for this once again.
Turned out that most (if not all) of the leaks emanated from a RAT named Sam Dash who was one of three judges on a special panel supposedly designed to keep the investigation on the up and up.
Yep .. they keep saying it's because of the release of the 9/11 commission report
I don't know about you .. but could care less about that report .. The Commission has been a joke
And I'm looking forward to a good laugh at the DNC Convention
So I see no reason for our side to leak this out now ..
What interesting analysis! I rather had thought Berger was removing papers that showed AQ was in the country, the former administration knew they were in the country and did exactly nothing.
I like your theory about OKC and TWA 800; I bought Davis's book and found it so believable and important that I bought a second book and donated it to the library so more people would have the opportunity to read it.
Thanks for the ping, Iowa!!
Bump for the morning crew.
BTTT
Great thread Bill_C and good luck on the book.
Put me in the camp that believes the dems leaked this story. Clinton has commented on it way too early and with a "$h!t eating grin" on his face.
The whole thing may be something to throw everyone off the trail of something even more important and Berger was part of that plot. He can't be this stupid.
Very cogent at 59, baseballmom.
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