Posted on 07/20/2004 5:54:43 PM PDT by silverleaf
You would think, but from what I understand there are some documents that are gone for good. Cannot be found. It makes me so sick to think this, but I have a bad feeling this will be swept completely under the rug in the next couple of days.
I wonder how many documents Richard Clarke stuffed down his pants. Also, how many did he plant?
I would imagine those items placed in the Archives for the purpose of ensuring their preservation for the ages are all copied.
But if I were running a classified document shop, I would be more worried about keeping documents from getting outside than about preservation. In that case, the fewer copies there are, the less risk there is of information inadvertently getting outside. Different rules for that stuff.
When handling classified documents the INFORMATION is what is classified. Original-copy, the security of the information contained in the media is what must be protected. We are at war and sensitive information like this could be very valuable to those who wish to do us harm. The legal description of this crime is : any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense
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I'm encouraged by the events that always seem to follow on things like 9/11. Notice that enlistments in the military are up to requirements easily. So they were on 8 Dec 1941.
Know what bothers me? As the Clinton Administration had control of all these documents while he was in office, how DID damaging info not get destroyed before? Wouldn't you think that drafts with all kinds of nasty tidbits in it would have been shredded long ago? We know they weren't shy.
Just too much to keep up with, I guess.
It's hard to say whether special intelligence or compartmented intelligence is "microfilmed".
From my experience as a special security officer, I'd say probably not.
These documents are so sensitive that they are on registers and must be signed out by people who have proper, verified clearance and NEED TO KNOW. They are accounted for- page by page, copy by copy.
And when they are destroyed, the destruction must be witnessed and both witnesses must sign.
The classification level assigned is based on an assessment that compromise of the information would cause, at a minimum, grave damage to US national security.
Berger was probably granted an interim clearance to access this information solely to prepare for his 911 testimony.
His abuse of PRIVILEGE- both that of serving in government and that of having access to our top national security information- has been abused to the point it makes me sick to my stomach. I haven't felt this way for a long time- since Clinton left office.
I agree; he was "sanitizing" the clintoon record on terrorism.
They were not copies. They were the original documents with initials of the people that read them.
What I want to know - and what is probably secure information and I will not find out - is what the procedure is at that secure room site. Berger claims that he inadvertently took some stuff in the 'leather portfolio' he carried. Is that the lost articles? I thought noone could take articles out AT ALL? I thought you could only remove handwritten notes. IS the REASON berger is stuffing stuff down his trowsers because he KNOWs his leather portfolio is going to be checked [because portfolios/breifcases are inspected by default for anyone leaving the secure area ] by the fed agents at the door and they would see the docs or the numbers on the docs that would have told them - that these docs - these non-handwritten notes cannot leave the area . And knowing this ... Berger stuffs the papers in his croutch which will NOT be inspected and he has too high a security level to worry about a random pat-down search when leaving the area like he was some congressman's secretary? I once worked for a federal security agency and we all had to read the regs continually and be up on the regs... it was a matter of pride to know the regs better than the next guy and you were considered to be very "up" on security if you could confidently solve a security question like who had access or what kind of access.
Robert
This "he took copies" argument is bogus. Those looking at the file at a later time would have to know that documents were missing. Unless someone from Archives replaces the missing documents, nobody will ever know Berger burgled them.
This "he took copies" argument is bogus.
Not to mention that the white house copies had notes penned in that will not be reproduced on copies from other agencies of the government. Clinton legacy protection all the way.
How do you know this to be true? Because the media told you?
We are interested in the margin notes and comments on various drafts of a memo. I doubt the Archives has a routine policy of copying this material. Why would they? It's top secret codeword. You don't just fire off copies of top secret information.
There was just one small problem; [Ressam, alias Benni] also had a second license saying he was " Mario Roig ." And, Benni's passport was sporting Mario 's photograph.
How interesting. "Mario Roig" would be a typical Catalan name, from the Mediterranean coast of Spain, where Mohammed Atta and others spent August of 2001. Since this happened well before then, it seems that AQ's connections with the region go way back.
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