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Dismantling Space and Time [Review of book by Brian Greene]
Tech Central Station ^ | 09 March 2004 | Kenneth Silber

Posted on 07/15/2004 7:52:36 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

Space and time are pervasive in our everyday experience, and yet it is hard to say exactly what they are. They resist definition in terms other than themselves. Moreover, they have various subtle and elusive properties, with which science continues to grapple. Relativity and quantum mechanics, the physics breakthroughs of the 20th century, revolutionized scientific thinking about these subjects. And this revolution has not played itself out, since cutting-edge physics today involves further radical rethinking of time and space.

The Fabric of the Cosmos: Space, Time, and the Texture of Reality, by Brian Greene (Knopf, $28.95), is an excellent guide to the science of space and time, and to modern physics more generally. The book provides lucid expositions of arcane topics that often are either oversimplified or obfuscated in physics popularizations. Greene is adept at placing complex ideas into context, explaining how they relate to each other and distinguishing the various degrees between well-established fact and wild speculation.

Greene, a Columbia University professor, has emerged as a high-profile expositor of physics in recent years. Indeed, he is a physicist with a certain cultural cachet; among other activities, he has hosted a documentary based on his previous book The Elegant Universe, performed a cameo role in the movie Frequency, and collaborated with the Emerson String Quartet on a project combining superstring theory with string music.

Is space "something" -- a physical entity -- or just a concept for describing relations among objects? Greene sorts through several centuries of thought about this question. In the late 1600s, Isaac Newton argued that space has an absolute, independent existence, while his rival Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibniz took the relationist view. In the 19th century, physicist Ernst Mach undermined the prevailing Newtonian position, setting motion against a backdrop not of absolute space but of widely distributed matter. The forces we feel when we spin or accelerate, Mach argued, are exerted on us by all the other objects near and far; if you were alone in the cosmos, you wouldn't feel a thing.

Then came Einstein, whose relativity theories both reaffirmed and refuted aspects of the relationist view. It became clear that Newton's absolute space does not exist; space and time depend on the relative motion of observers. Then again, space was evidently "something," since it could be curved and warped by matter and energy. Moreover, spacetime, the union of what were previously seen as distinct entities, was absolute. In Greene's analogy, spacetime is like a loaf of bread; it can be sliced different ways by observers at different locations, but the overall shape is independent and unchanging.

Quantum mechanics transformed science's understanding of matter and energy, and brought new implications for space and time. There was now seen to be genuine randomness in physical phenomena, unlike the deterministic laws of Newton and Einstein. Particles exist in a haze of probability, and interfere with one another like waves. Moreover, space no longer reliably performs its basic role of separating objects. Rather, particles can be "entangled," or correlated with each other over large distances even though nothing passes between them; they behave, in a sense, as one object. Such entanglement is a very difficult concept to explain, and Greene does a laudable job of it.

Time presents further puzzles. For one, does time "flow"? Physics provides no clear basis for our sense of a shifting present that is distinct from past and future. Indeed, relativity runs counter to that everyday perception, since observers at widely different locations and speeds will disagree on what is happening "now." Greene leans toward the view that time's flow is a function of the human mind rather than of fundamental physics. But he notes, sensibly, that our understanding of this matter may be far from complete.

The arrow of time, or direction in which things change, poses another question. We are accustomed to eggs scrambling but not unscrambling, and to black coffee and cream being stirred into light coffee but never the reverse. Yet at a more fundamental level, physics appears symmetrical between past and future; a movie of the particles that compose the egg or coffee could be run in reverse and you wouldn't know the difference.

The time asymmetry of everyday life arises from increasing entropy, a measure of the disorder in a system. But what explains the drive toward higher entropy? A plausible answer is provided by the cosmological theory of inflation, in which space underwent a phase of extremely rapid expansion. Remarkably, as Greene points out, understanding why eggs get scrambled requires consideration of the earliest moments of the universe.

Yet science's picture of the early universe (and of certain cosmic features such as black holes) remains fuzzy. The reason is that the relevant theories, quantum mechanics and general relativity, are incompatible with each other. General relativity posits a spacetime that is geometrically smooth. Quantum mechanics suggests spacetime, at the smallest scale, is wildly tumultuous. Hence, physicists search for a theory that will reconcile such differences. This was the impetus for superstring theory, which later morphed into M-theory (the M can stand for various things, including mystery, matrix, and membrane).

The superstring/M-theory approach raises the possibility that the familiar three dimensions of space (and one dimension of time) are not all there is to reality. Instead, there are higher dimensions, which go unnoticed because they are curled up at small scales or impervious to the electromagnetic radiation with which we normally see things. In fact, space as we know it may be a "something" that is as real as any object: a three-dimensional membrane, or "brane," embedded in a higher-dimensional spacetime.

Research continues on M-theory, and on a competing approach called loop quantum gravity (which can be understood, roughly speaking, as involving little loops of space). Experimental verification of such cutting-edge physics is difficult, but Greene expresses optimism that experiments in the not-distant future will provide a window into the nature of space and time. There are indications in current theory that space and time arise from something yet more fundamental -- but what that something is, nobody knows.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: astronomy; briangreene; cosmology; crevolist; notevenwrong; physics; science; space; stringtheory; time
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To: OSHA; Fedora

We'll see if we can stock that one.


81 posted on 07/15/2004 10:51:01 AM PDT by Darksheare (Show compassion, club a baby troll today!)
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To: Fedora

*groans*
And time appears to go by quickly after that, right?


82 posted on 07/15/2004 10:53:18 AM PDT by Darksheare (Show compassion, club a baby troll today!)
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To: King Prout

n-dimensional space is something mentioned in Argon Zark...


83 posted on 07/15/2004 10:57:17 AM PDT by Darksheare (Show compassion, club a baby troll today!)
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To: PatrickHenry; Darksheare; OSHA
Marie Curie:

Yeeeaaah. She's okay. For someone who's not ALSO A CHEMIST! Pffft. I'm not impressed.

( Miss Curie returns to her work. Plays with some leftover radium.)

84 posted on 07/15/2004 10:58:05 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("He must have committed a grave sin. I swear to you, Satan himself could have pissed in that water.")
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To: RightWhale
I was kidding -- I mixed the Communist Manifesto in with one of the article's paragraphs. But you are right!

Physics is "political" too. The current theories of our most regarded scientists and mathematicians always somehow accord to current and recent politcal lines of thought.

Note how Einstein loved relativity and was a absolutist in regard to limitations. Dirac liked relavity too, but felt that limits are not so always. Einstein loathed -- for many years -- the fringy and spastic quantum theory. And Bohr insisted that everything revolve around a simple center.

The chinese physicists loved the balancing acts of buddha-like quarks, and some of us like the constant discomfort of strings thrashing the back of all creation.

85 posted on 07/15/2004 11:04:47 AM PDT by bvw
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To: PatrickHenry; RightWhale; The Scourge of Yazid; OSHA; Darksheare; RadioAstronomer; longshadow
"You guys don't have the brane of a white dwarf"

What does a white dwarf (star at the end of it's life) have to do with any of the extended objects that arise in string theory?
86 posted on 07/15/2004 11:05:24 AM PDT by scott0347 ("Free Republic": Disturb, manipulate, demonstrate for the right thing)
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To: Darksheare

Yeah, that looks like an idea we should definitely steal--um, I mean, contact the original inventor about. . .


87 posted on 07/15/2004 11:07:45 AM PDT by Fedora (Kerryman, Kerryman, does whatever a ketchup can/Spins a lie, any size, catches wives just like flies)
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To: Darksheare

"And time appears to go by quickly after that, right?"

Depends if you're nearsighted or farsighted.


88 posted on 07/15/2004 11:08:35 AM PDT by Fedora (Kerryman, Kerryman, does whatever a ketchup can/Spins a lie, any size, catches wives just like flies)
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To: Fedora

LOL.

In an odd side note: Shouldn't elemental weights higher than 115 come into being inside a blackhole?


89 posted on 07/15/2004 11:23:33 AM PDT by Darksheare (Show compassion, club a baby troll today!)
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To: bvw
The oppresive regime of counter-revolutionary forces we feel when we spin or accelerate, Trotskyite Mach argued, are exerted on us by all the other feudal systems of objects near and far, if you serf, the social scum, that passively rotting mass thrown off by the lowest layers of the old society, were alone in the cosmos, you wouldn't feel a thing.

That explains the opression of time and gravity.

Help! Help! I'm being repressed!

90 posted on 07/15/2004 11:25:45 AM PDT by OSHA (The meek may inherit the earth but they'll never get out of the Wal-Mart parking lot.)
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To: bvw

For a long time I had thought that Einstein invented relativity. But then I continued to read and found relativity predated Einstein, so it may be that sometimes physics is made to conform to ethical theory or political theory. Heard anything more about the string dimension that is large enough to measure in the lab? It was supposedly the size of a neuron, which makes a great takeoff point as to the nature of thought and consciousness.


91 posted on 07/15/2004 11:27:46 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: scott0347
the extended objects

Extension is an a priori predicate of body according to French rationalism, but is it necessarily and universally a predicate of objects?

92 posted on 07/15/2004 11:30:58 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: Darksheare

"In an odd side note: Shouldn't elemental weights higher than 115 come into being inside a blackhole?"

I don't know--have they ever measured the atomic weight of John Kerry's brain?


93 posted on 07/15/2004 11:35:35 AM PDT by Fedora (Kerryman, Kerryman, does whatever a ketchup can/Spins a lie, any size, catches wives just like flies)
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To: Rhetorical pi2

If you intend on sharing, beware! I tried sharing my personal conceptualization of space and time and was thoroughly smacked down.


94 posted on 07/15/2004 11:36:17 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
>I once rebuilt a 65 Ford Fairlane. When I was through I still had a lot of parts so I built a Harley

I once rebuilt an
Ellen Barkin. With the parts
leftover, I built

a Paris Hilton.
I've got a Mischa Barton
conversion ordered . . .


95 posted on 07/15/2004 11:42:01 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: linear

Add scissors and tape and flat paper becomes 3-D or at least Riemannian.


96 posted on 07/15/2004 11:45:34 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: theFIRMbss

I have a neighbor who named her dog, Ellen Barkin.


97 posted on 07/15/2004 11:46:16 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Kerry has a Carter Plan. Bush has a Reagan Plan. You choose which is your plan.)
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To: Fedora

His brain would have an atomic weight?
I thought it was on the level of a metaparticle.


98 posted on 07/15/2004 11:50:42 AM PDT by Darksheare (Show compassion, club a baby troll today!)
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To: Darksheare

Well, maybe quark weight--it was a figure of speech, like "blessed are the cheesemakers".


99 posted on 07/15/2004 11:52:39 AM PDT by Fedora (Kerryman, Kerryman, does whatever a ketchup can/Spins a lie, any size, catches wives just like flies)
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To: theFIRMbss

PS. Paris Hilto is weird looking.


100 posted on 07/15/2004 11:58:45 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Kerry has a Carter Plan. Bush has a Reagan Plan. You choose which is your plan.)
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