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Defense of Marriage Amendment debate on CSPAN2 LIVE THREAD
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Posted on 07/12/2004 10:26:34 AM PDT by abnegation

And so it begins.....


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: anarchy; anarchyinamerica; civilization; dirtyrottenhomos; fma; homosexualagenda; homosexualbehavior; lawlessness; marriageamendment; nambla; protectchildren; protectfamily; romans1; senate; sexualperversion; wayneallard
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To: OXENinFLA
Swinestine up

I actually got a few minutes to see what was going on and tuned in to hear her invoking the 10th Amendment!(I thought that was code for racism, that's what the dims have told me ;-)

As she said, nowhere is the word 'marriage' found anywhere in the Constitution, but neither is abortion, but that doesn't stop her ilk.

101 posted on 07/12/2004 11:21:11 AM PDT by StriperSniper ("Ronald Reagan, the Founding Father of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy." - Mark Levin 6/8/04)
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To: South40

Homosexuality is an orientation, not a "behavior" or a "choice." They choose to be gay to the same degree that you choose to be black.


102 posted on 07/12/2004 11:22:29 AM PDT by johnfrink
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To: johnfrink
People don't choose the color of their skin. No matter how much you and your DU buddies try to twist the issue, Homosexuality is NOT BORN and it is NOT GENETIC.

Homosexuality is an abnormal, deviant, behavior.

103 posted on 07/12/2004 11:22:45 AM PDT by johnmorris886 (It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things that men of intemperate minds cannot he free.)
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To: johnfrink

john, I am not convinced at all that this is unnecessary. MA judges have taken it on themselves to define marriage. I think we need to fight back. I think Hatch is right when he says this issue is not going away. Maybe the amendment won't pass, but the debate is serious and it matters, IMHO.


104 posted on 07/12/2004 11:22:55 AM PDT by Bahbah
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To: Boner1
Ahhh but you don't understand. If one state allows it the others will be forced by the courts to recognize is too. Also, let's get our elected officials on record for what they stand for. Maybe it fails this time. However, might help in the ballot box to make sure it passes next time.
105 posted on 07/12/2004 11:23:24 AM PDT by reagandemo (The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
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To: Bahbah

Hatch has one of his infamous "chart". LOL He can't seem to get on the floor without one. BTW he is quoting "the swimmer". LOL


106 posted on 07/12/2004 11:24:18 AM PDT by abnegation (If I must choose between righteousness and peace, I choose righteousness TR)
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To: StriperSniper

Of course, the Founders never imagined any one would question marriage. Its amusing to see liberals invoke the Founders as the gold standard for NOT protecting traditional marriage. These are the folks who after all, view the people who founded our country as DWM.


107 posted on 07/12/2004 11:24:25 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: OXENinFLA

What did Zell say? Did he use the Not-Needed line (i.e. abdicate the issue to the courts) or did he protect the family. I have emailed him multiple times on this issue.


108 posted on 07/12/2004 11:24:37 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: johnfrink
Every homosexual that leaves the lifestyle and forsakes it, and goes on to live a normal healthy life shows that your "Fixed and Unchangeable" nonsense is just that. A lie.

Why don't you tell everyone here exactly where you are coming from.

Are you a homosexual?????

109 posted on 07/12/2004 11:24:39 AM PDT by johnmorris886 (It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things that men of intemperate minds cannot he free.)
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To: Bahbah

It won't go away. Somewhere a friendly federal judge will agree with the ACLU and the Left and strike down the DOMA statute. Its simply a matter of time. And I do think the votes are there on the Supreme Court to make gay marriage the law of the land.


110 posted on 07/12/2004 11:26:16 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: johnfrink

Sure thing. Close your eyes and keep repeating that and it just might come true.


111 posted on 07/12/2004 11:26:24 AM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: goldstategop

Hmmm... Why not make CFR a Constitutional amendment? Some judge might strike that down at some point in the future.


112 posted on 07/12/2004 11:27:04 AM PDT by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: johnmorris886

Hatch rightly points out the effect of the full faith and credit clause of the Constitution. Says his fellow senators want to avoid getting crosswise with the people. Yes, Orrin, they are cowards.


113 posted on 07/12/2004 11:27:15 AM PDT by Bahbah
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To: goldstategop

Always wondered why this didn't come up in Willie's terms. Those sodomites LOVED one another back then, didn't they?


114 posted on 07/12/2004 11:27:37 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Kerry: how can we trust him with our money, if Teresa won't trust him with hers!)
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To: OXENinFLA

I should have looked at your link. Zell is a co-sponsor. Give em H' Zell.

Heard Rick Santorum just a few minuites ago. Said it was about giving childen the best and that means a Mommy and a Daddy. He said this is all about children. Right on Rick!

Wish they would cite the child abuse statistics for the Scandinavian countries after marraige was redefined. It is a shocker.


115 posted on 07/12/2004 11:27:43 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: BureaucratusMaximus

Before I reply to some of the points you raised.. ( and I enjoyed your rant..hope it was good for you too ..LOL)..what PRAY tell..is a "pro-Constitutional" view of homosexualit?????


116 posted on 07/12/2004 11:27:45 AM PDT by ken5050 (We've looked for WMD in Iraq for LESS time than Hillary looked for the Rose Law firm billing records)
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To: Boner1
plus it will NEVER pass It is just a waste of time!<]

Even if it never passes it will have served its purpose. It puts everybody on paper as to their vote on marriage. I can see the commercials in every district now.;-)

117 posted on 07/12/2004 11:27:58 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: lugsoul

Judicial activism on the courts tends towards the Left. Judges do want to be liked by their peers and colleagues and you can guess on what side elite opinion is on regarding the issues of the day.


118 posted on 07/12/2004 11:28:53 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
Of course, the Founders never imagined any one would question marriage.

Well now, if you are going to fault them for their oversight by not including the definition of marriage in the Constitution, you must also take them to task for not defining what "is", is. ;-)

119 posted on 07/12/2004 11:30:01 AM PDT by StriperSniper ("Ronald Reagan, the Founding Father of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy." - Mark Levin 6/8/04)
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To: Bahbah

Those who oppose the amendment don't really have the guts to come out and say gays deserve to be married. I would respect them more if they took a principled stand.


120 posted on 07/12/2004 11:30:13 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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