Posted on 07/10/2004 4:06:59 PM PDT by doug from upland
On page 188 of THE THIRD TERRORIST, we learn about what may be evidence tampering by the FBI. If this is true, many people are implicated, and it is the reason that the real case has not been allowed to come forward. Witnesses have said that McVeigh and a Middle Easterner checked into the Cactus Motel (ficticious name) on April 18. The FBI took the original records. What they were returned were copies. Instead of room 105 being occupied by McVeigh and his Iraqi pal that night, the photocopied records showed that room 105 was empty. The witnesses could not believe it.
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BACKDOOR SEIZURE
Stumped by the ATF agent's lethargic response to his allegations that McVeigh spent the night at the Cactus, Randy pressed the officer in a subsequent phone conversation for an explanation.
"We are collecting motel logs citywide and we intend to cross reference the records," the investigator stated authoritatively. The evasive, essentially meaningless answer boggled the witness all the more. Where could he turn now? In a galling move, the feds had snubbed his declaration that the Oklahoma City bomber checked in to the Cactus Motel. In the weeks that followed, the press reported that Timothy McVeigh used the alias "Bob Kling" to rent the bomb truck. According to Randy, that name appeared several times on the original sign-in sheets that he kept, but he would not possess the evidence for long.
On May 26, 1995, Randy arrived at the Cactus to find his father, Gene, handing the registration logs to ATF Agent Doug Moore. Obviously, Randy's decision to withhold the original paperwork presented a nettlesome quandry. The wily agent played upon the gullibility of the retiree to execute a backdoor seizure. At that point, it was too late to intervene. Randy's father had legal authority as co-owner of the Cactus to deliver the documents. Unfortunately, Randy had not yet photocopied an extra set of the files. The originals would disappear into the abyss of missing evidence.
"TAMPERED RECORDS"
Though unrelenting in his quest, Randy Christian's efforts to recover the original Cactus logs proved fruitless. The FBI predictably rejected his Freedom of Information Act requests for the documents, stating that such a release "could reasonably be expected to interfere with law enforcement proceedings." Randy and his team of employees clung to the belief that the 1995 sign-in sheets held hostage by the government yielded their vindication. But given the monolithic wall of resistance, hope for their return soon caved into defeatism.
No one expected the call that came through the Cactus switchboard in the spring of 2000. An FBI representative notified Randy that the Department of Justice had scheduled the return of all motel and hel logs sequestered in the bombing case. But when Randy showed up to collect, he slammed into yet another roadblock. The FBI released photocopies of the registration logs for March and April 1995, but not the originals. Moreover, the agency withheld three months of files which included the sign-in reports extending from December 1994 through February 1995--documents which were critical to establish the presence of additional conspirators at the motel.
The disheartened witness registered his complaint with a female FBI clerk who appeared baffled upon learning the original Cactus logs had not been provided. She also made a notation that the bulk of the motel documents the ATF confiscated in May 1995 were still missing. But despite the conspicuous fact that the Cactus Motel was arguably the only business among hundreds denied the return of original records, the FBI vault remained sealed shut. Randy's petition was denied once again.
The photocopy of the customer register for the evening of April 18, 1995, crushed Randy's spirit and his employees alike. The room where motel employee Georgia Hammerstein and guest Cole O'Brien testified Timothy McVeigh stayed was shown to be vacant on the night in question. Both witnesses claimed the bomber stayed in room 105, but the entry for the guest's name was blank.
"These are tampered records," Gary Hammerstein firmly stated as he scrutinized the motel log sheet. "I believe the customer's name that was writtn down next to room 105 the evening of April 18 was redacted before this photocopy was made, and I can prove it.
I had become familiar with the accountant's exacting, analytical nature during the five year interim. While he was initially reluctant to speak with me, given the FBI's shameless disregard for Middle Eastern complicity, a sense of patriotism impelled the former Army serviceman to open up.
"I calculate the room occupancy every day, and if room 105 was vacant, then the rate would have been ninety-three percent, not ninety-five percent as I noted on the bottom of the page."
"Can you verify that his is your handwriting?" I queried.
"Absolutely, this is my handwriting," he certified as he pointed to the notation. "I verified the Cactus Motel had an occupancy rate of ninety-five percent on the eve of the bombing. That means roms 105 had to be occupied. I will testify to it under oath if necessary. I believe the name on room 105 was blotted out before this photocopy was made."
"I agree," Georgia interjected. "Since 1995, I have steadfastly maintained that I assigned the Middle Eastern man and Timothy McVeigh to room 105 when they checked in together. I'm positive there was a Middle Eastern surname on that blank line. For that matter, I strongly believe the logs that the FBI refused to return are replete with foreign aliases of the Arab men who hung out with McVeigh."
I bandied about the possibility Gary might have erred in his estimate. But he insisted the mathematical equation used to factor the occupancy rate is too complex not to double check.
"As a matter of habit, I verify the calculation and do the math twice," he affirmed. Garyh explained how he first substractd the number of rooms that were out of order for maintenance. On April 18, fifty-eight units were available to rent. He then deducted the number of vacancies, which at the time, totaled three. Therefore, he had fifty-five rooms rented out of fifty-eight which equaled a ninety-five percentoccupancy rate. If the guest register was, indeed, doctored to reflect a vacancy in room 105, then whoever performed the task was ignorant as to the adjustment needed to reflect the occupancy was ninet-three percent. The fact tha Gary had an in-house formula that was unknown to the FBI made the supposition the record had been doctored all the more possible.
FBI "FIB"
While the evidence suggesting the FBI falsified the Cactus Motel log for April 18 seemed persuasive, the crime of obstructing justice hadnot been established beyond a reasonable doubt. The original sign-in sheet yields the undeniable truth, and the FBI retains custody of that record, as well as months of registration sheets for which it refused to furnish the owner with photocopies. The Bureau's suppression of anyh linkage between McVeigh, his Iraqi counterparts, and the Cactus Motel crossed the line of credulity in the fall of 2002.
After Senator Arlen Specter requested I turn over the massive investigative file indicating foreign involvement in the April 19 terrorist attack, the FBI alleged to the senator in writing that Randy Christian admitted to federal agents he had "destroyed" the registration record for April 18.
"That's an outright lie!" the livid motel owner proclaimed. "Sure, it was Cactus policy to dispose of daily sign-in sheets after a certain time period, or we would be swimming in paperwork. But I have several witnesses to the undisputed fact the ATF collected the records for December 1994 through April 1995."
This time, the FBI's written words laid a trap from which it could not escape. It was a classid case of the left hand not knowing what the right hand had done. The Bureau claimed it could not produce the original log sheet dated April 18 because the owner purportedly "destroyed" it; so how could the FBI return to Randy Christian in 2000 a photocopy of the very same record if authorities never confiscated it in the first place? In short, the Bureau returned a photocopy of a record that it claimed did not exist.
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FReepers, this coverup is not going to stand. We know the lengths to which Bill Clinton was capable of going. He used the OKC bombing to save his presidency by vilifying "hate talk radio." It is up to us to help Jayna write the real Clinton legacy for all the world to see. The Kool-Aid drinkers are going to have to enroll in a 12-step program.
This thing stank of a cover up from the start, from the original WTC bombing onward the bent one covered up everything to avoid doing anything.
That would be Webb Hubbell, No. 3 man at the Justice Department under Reno and Chelsea's father (IMHO).
After being forced to resign from DOJ, he was the recipient of $700,000 in "legal work" from Clintonistas.
Maybe because, for example, in the year of 9/11, the CIA had a small number of officers studying Arabic but devoted 20,000 manhours to "sensitivity training?"
There is no basis to suggest we live in a constitutional republic. The Constitution serves only to legitimize the government to the people, it does little to constrain the government.
The government is 100% under the control of 2 political crime syndicates. These crime syndicates are privately funded. They have a tightly controlled internal leadership structure. They have the largest, and most sophisticated propaganda machine ever seen by man. They are the only organizations which can legally broadcast falsehoods.
These privately-controlled organizations create 100% of all new laws.
They alone choose judges to serve their interests in the government courts.
They alone choose, and/or approve, candidates who will represent their interests at local, state and federal levels.
Attempts to create alternate syndicates are met with extreme hostility.
Attempts to apply Constitutional law against these syndicates are met with extreme hostility. Should such legal "attacks" against them be successful they then revise the laws to accommodate the interests of their power monopoly.
Both syndicates are competitive, but neither syndicate will ever do anything that would seriously jeopardize the public confidence in the other.
They need each other to present the image of a freely competitive political system. This is a carefully cultivated and protected false image. Anything that may arise that could seriously damage the legitimacy of either organization will be controlled at all costs by the other competitive syndicate. This includes matters of vote fraud, Presidential impeachment, influence of foreign powers, treason, bribery, murder, theft, and more. Much of the misbehavior is protected as a special class laws which exclude the elite from prosecution, though the average citizen can be prosecuted for the exact same behavior.
This is an oligarchy, not a constitutional republic.
Sad to say, I no longer trust this government. Specter is a liar and a fraud, and proved that with his non-legal 'vote' at clinton's impeachment trial. With friends like him we need no other enemies. I wish Jayna all the luck in the world; she needs it to get this resolved -- but this government will do all it can to close her out.
A mother holding her baby in the door of her home, a cabin.. er, I mean a heavily fortified compound, was dead. In 1992 few knew and the many didn't care to know. Then it got worse.
As one writer put it after Ruby Ridge and Waco, "It was perfectly clear that there was not the slightest intention anywhere of imposing any accountability or consequences. There was little examination or confrontation . . There weren't streams of people on Ted Koppel's Nightline debating the constitutionality or morality. There were no dramatic angry voices in the Alan Dershowitz mode. . .The prevailing attitude was the same as Clinton's attitude after his rape of Juanita Broaddrick, in which he laughed and told her to put some ice on it while gloating over the fact she was helpless to do anything about it."
Some (most?) truth did come out. It took years. I cannot find a concise history of what brought it out and forced Congressmen to do a real investigation. Some of that is found here however (very long page)
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b2433ca39d0.htm
I do remember local talk radio in northern California. I remember one national talk radio show, Art Bell's. Talk radio was where citizens would not let their government tell them to "put some ice on it." I believe I remember some Compuserve discussion, also. Plus, limited circulation print, Maybe one was Media Bypass.
Today we have so much more. OKC is just a question of time.
AAAGHH!!! MyEYES!!!!
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But why would our government want to cover-up the truth of Oklahoma City? That's what I'd like to know. Why would finding out that more people than McVeigh and Nichols being involved hurt the administration?
You may have answered my previous question.
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Maybe it is those within the FBI who engaged in the initial coverup who are the ones continuing this one. If the one killer was executed, the other convicted, and the courts have determined those two were the only ones involved, what does the president do about it? We have to raise enough of a stink to pressure the administration to look into this. Justice has not been done.
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Foreign policy would be affected if the collaborators were foreign nationals. In the case of Oklahoma City, the collaborators were here as a result of Iraqis brought back from Iraq in the Desert Storm ending. They were held in refugee status so long they revolted and tried to burn up Camp Chaffee in Arkansas where they were held. This showed the bitterness most of them held. Part were established in Oklahoma City and the remainder were taken to Lincoln, Nebraska after the riots. Either the Bush one administration or Clinton administration would be embarassed by their origin being known.
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I'm about halfway through The Third Terrorist...now THIS would make a good movie/documentary!!!!!!
I predict that this will make it to the big screen.
OMG...Let's pray that it's not a Michael Moore production!!
How about Mel Gibson as producer???
Who would play the part of Jayna...what's the gals name that plays the lead in Everybody Loves Raymond...Patricia ??? She's a good conservative, has she done any dramas???
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