Skip to comments.WAS THERE GOVERNMENT EVIDENCE TAMPERING IN OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING? (Jayna Davis knows the answer)
Posted on 07/10/2004 4:06:59 PM PDT by doug from upland
On page 188 of THE THIRD TERRORIST, we learn about what may be evidence tampering by the FBI. If this is true, many people are implicated, and it is the reason that the real case has not been allowed to come forward. Witnesses have said that McVeigh and a Middle Easterner checked into the Cactus Motel (ficticious name) on April 18. The FBI took the original records. What they were returned were copies. Instead of room 105 being occupied by McVeigh and his Iraqi pal that night, the photocopied records showed that room 105 was empty. The witnesses could not believe it.
Stumped by the ATF agent's lethargic response to his allegations that McVeigh spent the night at the Cactus, Randy pressed the officer in a subsequent phone conversation for an explanation.
"We are collecting motel logs citywide and we intend to cross reference the records," the investigator stated authoritatively. The evasive, essentially meaningless answer boggled the witness all the more. Where could he turn now? In a galling move, the feds had snubbed his declaration that the Oklahoma City bomber checked in to the Cactus Motel. In the weeks that followed, the press reported that Timothy McVeigh used the alias "Bob Kling" to rent the bomb truck. According to Randy, that name appeared several times on the original sign-in sheets that he kept, but he would not possess the evidence for long.
On May 26, 1995, Randy arrived at the Cactus to find his father, Gene, handing the registration logs to ATF Agent Doug Moore. Obviously, Randy's decision to withhold the original paperwork presented a nettlesome quandry. The wily agent played upon the gullibility of the retiree to execute a backdoor seizure. At that point, it was too late to intervene. Randy's father had legal authority as co-owner of the Cactus to deliver the documents. Unfortunately, Randy had not yet photocopied an extra set of the files. The originals would disappear into the abyss of missing evidence.
Though unrelenting in his quest, Randy Christian's efforts to recover the original Cactus logs proved fruitless. The FBI predictably rejected his Freedom of Information Act requests for the documents, stating that such a release "could reasonably be expected to interfere with law enforcement proceedings." Randy and his team of employees clung to the belief that the 1995 sign-in sheets held hostage by the government yielded their vindication. But given the monolithic wall of resistance, hope for their return soon caved into defeatism.
No one expected the call that came through the Cactus switchboard in the spring of 2000. An FBI representative notified Randy that the Department of Justice had scheduled the return of all motel and hel logs sequestered in the bombing case. But when Randy showed up to collect, he slammed into yet another roadblock. The FBI released photocopies of the registration logs for March and April 1995, but not the originals. Moreover, the agency withheld three months of files which included the sign-in reports extending from December 1994 through February 1995--documents which were critical to establish the presence of additional conspirators at the motel.
The disheartened witness registered his complaint with a female FBI clerk who appeared baffled upon learning the original Cactus logs had not been provided. She also made a notation that the bulk of the motel documents the ATF confiscated in May 1995 were still missing. But despite the conspicuous fact that the Cactus Motel was arguably the only business among hundreds denied the return of original records, the FBI vault remained sealed shut. Randy's petition was denied once again.
The photocopy of the customer register for the evening of April 18, 1995, crushed Randy's spirit and his employees alike. The room where motel employee Georgia Hammerstein and guest Cole O'Brien testified Timothy McVeigh stayed was shown to be vacant on the night in question. Both witnesses claimed the bomber stayed in room 105, but the entry for the guest's name was blank.
"These are tampered records," Gary Hammerstein firmly stated as he scrutinized the motel log sheet. "I believe the customer's name that was writtn down next to room 105 the evening of April 18 was redacted before this photocopy was made, and I can prove it.
I had become familiar with the accountant's exacting, analytical nature during the five year interim. While he was initially reluctant to speak with me, given the FBI's shameless disregard for Middle Eastern complicity, a sense of patriotism impelled the former Army serviceman to open up.
"I calculate the room occupancy every day, and if room 105 was vacant, then the rate would have been ninety-three percent, not ninety-five percent as I noted on the bottom of the page."
"Can you verify that his is your handwriting?" I queried.
"Absolutely, this is my handwriting," he certified as he pointed to the notation. "I verified the Cactus Motel had an occupancy rate of ninety-five percent on the eve of the bombing. That means roms 105 had to be occupied. I will testify to it under oath if necessary. I believe the name on room 105 was blotted out before this photocopy was made."
"I agree," Georgia interjected. "Since 1995, I have steadfastly maintained that I assigned the Middle Eastern man and Timothy McVeigh to room 105 when they checked in together. I'm positive there was a Middle Eastern surname on that blank line. For that matter, I strongly believe the logs that the FBI refused to return are replete with foreign aliases of the Arab men who hung out with McVeigh."
I bandied about the possibility Gary might have erred in his estimate. But he insisted the mathematical equation used to factor the occupancy rate is too complex not to double check.
"As a matter of habit, I verify the calculation and do the math twice," he affirmed. Garyh explained how he first substractd the number of rooms that were out of order for maintenance. On April 18, fifty-eight units were available to rent. He then deducted the number of vacancies, which at the time, totaled three. Therefore, he had fifty-five rooms rented out of fifty-eight which equaled a ninety-five percentoccupancy rate. If the guest register was, indeed, doctored to reflect a vacancy in room 105, then whoever performed the task was ignorant as to the adjustment needed to reflect the occupancy was ninet-three percent. The fact tha Gary had an in-house formula that was unknown to the FBI made the supposition the record had been doctored all the more possible.
While the evidence suggesting the FBI falsified the Cactus Motel log for April 18 seemed persuasive, the crime of obstructing justice hadnot been established beyond a reasonable doubt. The original sign-in sheet yields the undeniable truth, and the FBI retains custody of that record, as well as months of registration sheets for which it refused to furnish the owner with photocopies. The Bureau's suppression of anyh linkage between McVeigh, his Iraqi counterparts, and the Cactus Motel crossed the line of credulity in the fall of 2002.
After Senator Arlen Specter requested I turn over the massive investigative file indicating foreign involvement in the April 19 terrorist attack, the FBI alleged to the senator in writing that Randy Christian admitted to federal agents he had "destroyed" the registration record for April 18.
"That's an outright lie!" the livid motel owner proclaimed. "Sure, it was Cactus policy to dispose of daily sign-in sheets after a certain time period, or we would be swimming in paperwork. But I have several witnesses to the undisputed fact the ATF collected the records for December 1994 through April 1995."
This time, the FBI's written words laid a trap from which it could not escape. It was a classid case of the left hand not knowing what the right hand had done. The Bureau claimed it could not produce the original log sheet dated April 18 because the owner purportedly "destroyed" it; so how could the FBI return to Randy Christian in 2000 a photocopy of the very same record if authorities never confiscated it in the first place? In short, the Bureau returned a photocopy of a record that it claimed did not exist.
FReepers, this coverup is not going to stand. We know the lengths to which Bill Clinton was capable of going. He used the OKC bombing to save his presidency by vilifying "hate talk radio." It is up to us to help Jayna write the real Clinton legacy for all the world to see. The Kool-Aid drinkers are going to have to enroll in a 12-step program.
Good post. I bet Janet Renio knows.
It will stand because the Democrats mean to keep it covered and the Republicns believe that something that horrible should not come to light because it willl taint the FBI and the Presidency.
I think 9-11 has sufficiently tained the FBI and CIA. Those involved in a coverup would be doing everything in their power to keep the Republicans from doing anything about this. They could go to jail for a long time. That is motivation. Republicans would probably weigh what political benefit they would achieve, and they would probably decide it isn't worth it right now. I think it is. If Bill Clinton is exposed, then Hillary is once and for all politically destroyed before it is too late.
We are going to continue to hammer this issue. There will soon be info on a district attorney who is going to receive some salvos from us.
I did a little search a while back...Gore Lick's name came through loud and clear!!
Bump for truth.
Looks like a morph between Janet Reno and "Lurch" sKerry...
"I did a little search a while back...Gore Lick's name came through loud and clear!!"
Why is that name constantly associated with scandal? And why am I not surprised?
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"Looks like a morph between Janet Reno and "Lurch" sKerry..."
Now you're not being kind to Janet Reno or Kerry. Stop it, TXnMA. :)
Police will and DO lie on the stand as a matter of routine.
To see an officer on the stand is to be a witness to some form of lying.
Chain of custody is always a place for "fudging"
The FBI labs were so fatally compromised that the prosecutors brought in experts from OUTSIDE THE USA to testify.
No big surprise here...
The title may have been a little less direct, but the OKBIC Final Report includes an entire section (pp 327 - 358) entitled, "Government Improprieties".
Now, Diogenesis. We all know Democrats don't conspire. They uncover evil, conservative conspiracies. Hell, without them. Where would America be? :) HA!
I think she was also the "primary" disrupter of any Brown investigation.
Is Gore Lick also the person who made sure the FBI files got to the Clintons?
Ruby Ridge, Waco, and OK City were examples of extra-legal actions. Unfortunately, we can't figure out why the intelligence agencies can't do their jobs. The reality that truth inspires is covered up for the immediate political needs.
Thank you doug! Keep it alive until it explodes from the expanding gases from all the rot and decay!!!
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