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1 posted on 07/10/2004 4:07:00 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland

Good post. I bet Janet Renio knows.


2 posted on 07/10/2004 4:10:35 PM PDT by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a Conservative)
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To: doug from upland

It will stand because the Democrats mean to keep it covered and the Republicns believe that something that horrible should not come to light because it willl taint the FBI and the Presidency.


3 posted on 07/10/2004 4:15:37 PM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE.)
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We are going to continue to hammer this issue. There will soon be info on a district attorney who is going to receive some salvos from us.


5 posted on 07/10/2004 4:23:00 PM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: doug from upland

Bump for truth.


7 posted on 07/10/2004 4:26:49 PM PDT by Vigilantcitizen ("I believe that what you say about others speaks volumes about yourself." Zell Miller)
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To: doug from upland

Police will and DO lie on the stand as a matter of routine.

To see an officer on the stand is to be a witness to some form of lying.

Chain of custody is always a place for "fudging"

The FBI labs were so fatally compromised that the prosecutors brought in experts from OUTSIDE THE USA to testify.


12 posted on 07/10/2004 4:55:16 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: doug from upland
FBI "FIB"

No big surprise here...

The title may have been a little less direct, but the OKBIC Final Report includes an entire section (pp 327 - 358) entitled, "Government Improprieties".

Go, Jayna!!!

13 posted on 07/10/2004 4:57:01 PM PDT by TXnMA (It's wonderful to be back home in God's Country!!)
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To: doug from upland

Thank you doug! Keep it alive until it explodes from the expanding gases from all the rot and decay!!!


19 posted on 07/10/2004 6:02:00 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Keep whores out of the Whitehouse! Don't elect a couple of "Johns"!!!)
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To: doug from upland

Why....SSSSSSOITINLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


20 posted on 07/10/2004 6:07:14 PM PDT by soozla ("F.U. - LONG OVERDUE!!" - BUSH/CHENEY '04)
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To: doug from upland

This thing stank of a cover up from the start, from the original WTC bombing onward the bent one covered up everything to avoid doing anything.


21 posted on 07/10/2004 6:17:54 PM PDT by Little Bill (John F'n Kerry is a self promoting scumbag!)
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To: doug from upland
Freeper semper_libertas posted this. I liked it so much, I put it in my "keeper files":
There is no basis to suggest we live in a constitutional republic. The Constitution serves only to legitimize the government to the people, it does little to constrain the government.

The government is 100% under the control of 2 political crime syndicates. These crime syndicates are privately funded. They have a tightly controlled internal leadership structure. They have the largest, and most sophisticated propaganda machine ever seen by man. They are the only organizations which can legally broadcast falsehoods.

These privately-controlled organizations create 100% of all new laws.

They alone choose judges to serve their interests in the government courts.

They alone choose, and/or approve, candidates who will represent their interests at local, state and federal levels.

Attempts to create alternate syndicates are met with extreme hostility.

Attempts to apply Constitutional law against these syndicates are met with extreme hostility. Should such legal "attacks" against them be successful they then revise the laws to accommodate the interests of their power monopoly.

Both syndicates are competitive, but neither syndicate will ever do anything that would seriously jeopardize the public confidence in the other.

They need each other to present the image of a freely competitive political system. This is a carefully cultivated and protected false image. Anything that may arise that could seriously damage the legitimacy of either organization will be controlled at all costs by the other competitive syndicate. This includes matters of vote fraud, Presidential impeachment, influence of foreign powers, treason, bribery, murder, theft, and more. Much of the misbehavior is protected as a special class laws which exclude the elite from prosecution, though the average citizen can be prosecuted for the exact same behavior.

This is an oligarchy, not a constitutional republic.

Sad to say, I no longer trust this government. Specter is a liar and a fraud, and proved that with his non-legal 'vote' at clinton's impeachment trial. With friends like him we need no other enemies. I wish Jayna all the luck in the world; she needs it to get this resolved -- but this government will do all it can to close her out.

24 posted on 07/10/2004 7:04:39 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional.)
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"Her head exploded like a ripe watermelon."

A mother holding her baby in the door of her home, a cabin.. er, I mean a heavily fortified compound, was dead. In 1992 few knew and the many didn't care to know. Then it got worse.

As one writer put it after Ruby Ridge and Waco, "It was perfectly clear that there was not the slightest intention anywhere of imposing any accountability or consequences. There was little examination or confrontation . . There weren't streams of people on Ted Koppel's Nightline debating the constitutionality or morality. There were no dramatic angry voices in the Alan Dershowitz mode. . .The prevailing attitude was the same as Clinton's attitude after his rape of Juanita Broaddrick, in which he laughed and told her to put some ice on it while gloating over the fact she was helpless to do anything about it."

Some (most?) truth did come out. It took years. I cannot find a concise history of what brought it out and forced Congressmen to do a real investigation. Some of that is found here however (very long page)

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b2433ca39d0.htm

I do remember local talk radio in northern California. I remember one national talk radio show, Art Bell's. Talk radio was where citizens would not let their government tell them to "put some ice on it." I believe I remember some Compuserve discussion, also. Plus, limited circulation print, Maybe one was Media Bypass.

Today we have so much more. OKC is just a question of time.

25 posted on 07/10/2004 8:47:49 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Benedict Arnold was a hero for both sides in the same war, too!)
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To: doug from upland

Bump for later reading.


27 posted on 07/10/2004 10:39:38 PM PDT by jamaly
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To: doug from upland

bump


30 posted on 07/10/2004 11:29:03 PM PDT by VOA
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To: doug from upland

bump for reference


32 posted on 07/11/2004 1:51:05 AM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: doug from upland

read later


34 posted on 07/11/2004 6:49:25 AM PDT by mathluv (Protect my grandchildren's future. Vote for Bush/Cheney '04.)
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To: doug from upland

I'm about halfway through The Third Terrorist...now THIS would make a good movie/documentary!!!!!!


35 posted on 08/18/2004 7:33:18 PM PDT by FlashBack (Faith will not make our path easy, but it will give us strength for the Journey.)
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