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Veteran gets rude welcome on Bainbridge [It's Baaaak!]
Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | July 9, 2004 | ROBERT L. JAMIESON Jr

Posted on 07/09/2004 3:24:18 AM PDT by johnny7

Think about the Seattle area -- Bainbridge Island to be exact -- and you think scenic views and liberal-minded tolerance. At least the killer views are still there.

The bucolic island's deep reputation for civility got a gut check this week during the annual Grand Old Fourth of July celebration. That's when Jason Gilson, a 23-year-old military veteran who served in Iraq, marched in the local event. He wore his medals with pride and carried a sign that said "Veterans for Bush." Walking the parade route with his mom, younger siblings and politically conservative friends, Jason heard words from the crowd that felt like a thousand daggers to the heart. "Baby killer!" "Murderer!" "Boooo!"

To understand why the reaction of strangers hurt so much, you must read what the young man had written in a letter from Iraq before he was disabled in an ambush: "I really miss being in the states. Some of the American public have no idea how much freedom costs and who the people are that pay that awful price. I think sometimes people just see us as nameless and faceless and not really as humans. ... A good portion of us are actually scared that when we come home, for those of us who make it back, that there will be protesters waiting for us and that is scary." On the Fourth, Jason faced his worst fear.

It was such a public humiliation -- home front insult after battlefield injury. It really shouldn't have happened for two principal reasons. Reason No. 1? History. The past informs us that the men and women who fight our wars are not just following orders. They are risking life and limb. When they return from the battlefield they should be embraced regardless of the public popularity about the conflict, regardless of the politics. Have we so quickly forgotten the painful lessons of Vietnam? Frederick Scheffler, whose daughter and son-in-law marched with Jason on Sunday, hasn't. Scheffler -- an Army veteran of two tours in Southeast Asia -- was shot in the leg during that long-ago conflict. He came home with a cane, only to discover the American public was either indifferent to his sacrifice or downright hostile. "I didn't think in this day and age combat veterans would be treated in this manner," Scheffler, 60, tells me, reflecting on Jason. "I saw it happen to veterans in Vietnam. I'm not going to let it happen today, not to these kids."

Reason No. 2? The rules. The Bainbridge Island Chamber of Commerce, which put on the community celebration, permits freedom of expression at the event but asks that parade announcers not act in a manner that is partisan or prejudicial. Jason's mother, Tamar, says a female parade announcer locked eyes on her son who was walking behind a pro-Republican group called Women in Red, White and Blue. The group supports President Bush and the troops in the fight against terrorism. According to Tamar, the female announcer sarcastically asked Jason: "And what exactly are you a veteran of?" The perceived mocking, the mother adds, set off some people in the crowd, loosing a flood of negative comments, "like a wave... a mob-style degrading." Kevin Dwyer, executive director of the Chamber of Commerce, spoke with the announcer after the allegations reached him this week. He says the woman denies using sarcasm; she just wanted to know which war Jason was a veteran of so that she could "honor him" in public. "It wasn't her intention to incite anything -- that's what she told me," Dwyer said. "But if she acted out of school, that's not what we're about." Dwyer added: "I believe (Jason's) mom when she said her son was called 'a murderer.' But I'm sure it wasn't so much directed at the kid as it was the president. A soldier with a sign represents that." The female announcer told Dwyer that some in the Bush-Cheney contingent in the parade seemed "militant."

And so, battle lines are drawn. From the outside looking in, the fuel for this conflict seems obvious. The left-leaning island hosted a group of people who support Bush's controversial war. (On the same parade route, people bearing pro-Kerry signs were cheered and applauded for, among other things, tooling around in an environmentally responsible car.) Against such a roiling backdrop, an unfortunate tone of voice or the wording on a sign can spark, well, something -- something unconscionable it appears.

But less obvious factors are undoubtedly at work here, too. The female announcer at the parade had a father who fought for America in a previous U.S. conflict. He never made it back home. Jason's mother -- unbeknownst to many observers along the parade route -- is a tireless activist behind the pro-troops movement in the Puget Sound region. Such a combo on a day of red, white and blue can only lead to fireworks -- snap, crackle and popping off during what locals call the "best small-town parade in America."

P-I columnist Robert L. Jamieson Jr. can be reached at 206-448-8125 or robertjamieson@seattlepi.com


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bainbridge; seattle
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Thanks Tonk, for the ping.


101 posted on 07/09/2004 7:05:11 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: KeyWest

next time you meet that "academic", tell him his claim to "support the troops" but be against the war is an oxymoron - akin to being a New York Giants fan but wanting them to forfeit the superbowl at half-time despite having a 42-7 lead.


102 posted on 07/09/2004 7:14:00 PM PDT by CGVet58 (God has granted us Liberty, and we owe Him Courage in return)
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To: All

Stop Hanoi Kerry

http://tonkin.spymac.net/hanoikerry1.html


103 posted on 07/09/2004 7:21:46 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Kerry is a traitor!)
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To: johnny7
Hatriots!

I want these assholes on film, on tape, I want to have their faces plastered over the internet. Let the cowardly scum who said these things get a taste of their own cruelty!

104 posted on 07/09/2004 7:29:35 PM PDT by Nachum (HATRIOTS = LIBS)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

This sort of thing will never go unchallenged in my presence, not ever.


105 posted on 07/09/2004 7:33:12 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: johnny7
It was such a public humiliation

Jason Gilson has nothing to be humiliated for. The only ones who should be humiliated are the jackasses who insulted him. They obviously don't know who their betters are.

After reading this, I'll be sure to attend any public event to honor veterans in my area, especially ones returning from Iraq. For one reason, they deserve to be honored. And for another, someone has to be there to shout down the idiots in the crowd.

106 posted on 07/09/2004 7:48:16 PM PDT by Hostile (Freedom is not the sole prerogative of a chosen few; it is the universal right of all God's children)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; ALOHA RONNIE; Ragtime Cowgirl; mhking; Vets_Husband_and_Wife; ...

"Baby killer!"


Unbelievable! Same crap spewed today as ~30 years ago. I can't believe it, and never heard before now that current service members still have to endure the hatred from their dimwitted democrat fellow Americans upon returning home with taunts like this. Bah to them - then and now.

My partner broke the face of the guy who called him one, years ago, on the steps of the state capitol, lol.

I salute Jason Gilson, a 23-year-old military veteran and hope he can forget "words from the crowd that felt like a thousand daggers to the heart."


107 posted on 07/09/2004 7:50:53 PM PDT by JLO
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To: anonymoussierra

Because they are traitors. There are many fools in this country who truly believe that socialism (like the old Soviet Union had) it a GOOD thing. They actually believe that if the "correct" people were in charge (them, naturally) that this country would be heaven on earth. Of course they don't want true socialism where everyone is equal. The REALLY want a system of rulers and subjects.

They take their lead from the Democrat Party, which is in fact the Socialist Party. Karl Marx would call them "useful idiots".


108 posted on 07/09/2004 7:51:20 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

These people wouldn't sacrifice so much as the foam from their double latte in defense of this country. Some day it will come back to haunt them. I pray.


109 posted on 07/09/2004 7:52:23 PM PDT by ODC-GIRL (President Reagan: A life well lived, he will be missed.)
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To: johnny7

They will be surprised when the contingent from Mike Company, 3rd Batallion, 7th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division has their annual meeting in Seattle soon!

Let someone cry out with derision again --- and they will see what happens this time!


110 posted on 07/09/2004 8:05:56 PM PDT by steplock ( www.spadata.com)
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To: anonymoussierra
As Claire Wolfe once said:

"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards. On the road to tyranny, we've gone so far that polite political action is about as useless as a miniskirt in a convent. But most people are still standing around numb and confused, knowing something's wrong with the country, but hoping it isn't quite as bad as they're beginning to suspect it is."

Our Constitution guarantees several things (notice I DID NOT say grants or gives) and among them is the right to keep and bear arms (guns). Specifically, one of the amendments says "the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed". In daily language it means that there shall be no restricitons on who can own a gun or who can sell a gun or even what type of gun or how many you can own.

The DemocRat Party (of which the traitors in the article support) have been whittling away at this right for years because they KNOW that many people will not like what they try to force on us. Recently, that same party tried to pass a law banning the sale of ANY ammunition that would penetrate soft body armor (not the kind with ceramic plates like our troops wear, but the cloth type Kevlar). This includes pretty much ANY common rifle ammunition.

If they had managed to pass it and it became law, we would be past the awkward stage.

By the way, you can edit your Freep personal page with pretty much anything you want to put on it.

111 posted on 07/09/2004 8:05:56 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: johnny7

Sorry, I forgot to put your name in the 'to' in my post #107


112 posted on 07/09/2004 8:25:25 PM PDT by JLO
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Jason showed A LOT more restraint than I would have.
This kind of crap is getting old.


113 posted on 07/09/2004 8:38:00 PM PDT by Valin (Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. It's just that yours is stupid.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

http://tonkin.spymac.net/hanoikerry1.html

Good link!


114 posted on 07/09/2004 8:47:14 PM PDT by JLO
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To: anonymoussierra

Thank you for your sentiment. FReegards


115 posted on 07/09/2004 8:59:22 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "Who is this King of Glory? The Lord strong and mighty, invincible in battle."u)
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To: Old Sarge
RE: "And people who hate the services are in the majority..." Now Sarge, just because Mikey Moore is fatter than most, that does not make him the 'majority', does it?
116 posted on 07/09/2004 10:26:51 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes ("Benedict Arnold was ALSO a 'hero' ...before he became a Traitor.")
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To: johnny7

I would say the "female announcer" could use a good attitude adjustment.


117 posted on 07/09/2004 10:43:22 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: TexasTransplant
To: TexasTransplant

Over at DU (last week?) they were ranting that they had more Guns than those "Nutcase Freepers"

Hahahahahaha!

the difference was that they had the Law on their side and they were willing to use them.

BUUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! !

Kids say the darnedest things!

118 posted on 07/09/2004 11:47:10 PM PDT by TLI ( . . . ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA . . . . . .)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Just unbelievable! BTTT


119 posted on 07/09/2004 11:50:38 PM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: R. Scott

good morning America friend. I think people family that have people in military understand rule. That people say bad thing and is not nice not nice. That people are evil and do not love fredom. Communism people, no love for America, socialist and no honor. Grom salute to that military man he is respect and honor to great America


120 posted on 07/10/2004 2:30:10 AM PDT by anonymoussierra (hello America)
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