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Afghans Arrest Americans in Abuse Case
Associated Press via Yahoooooooo! ^ | Thu, Jul 08, 2004 | AMIR SHAH, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 07/08/2004 1:21:25 PM PDT by jjm2111

Afghan forces arrested three Americans, including a purported former Green Beret, after raiding a jail they were allegedly running in the Afghan capital and finding prisoners hanging from their feet, officials said Thursday.

The U.S. military, facing a widening inquiry into prisoner abuse, quickly distanced itself from the three, who had been posing as American agents before being detained Monday. State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said Thursday "the U.S. government does not employ or sponsor these men."

Afghan officials also dismissed claims by the apparent ringleader, Jonathan K. Idema, that he was a "special adviser" to their security forces, saying the three had posed as military agents on a self-appointed hunt for terrorists.

The Americans and four Afghans who were detained along with them "formed a group and pretended they were fighting terrorism," Interior Minister Ali Ahmad Jalali said. "They arrested eight people from across Kabul and put them in their jail."

Another Afghan security official said intelligence and police officials who raided the group's house Monday found the prisoners strung up by their feet.

"They were hanging upside down," said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity. He said a report showed the men also were beaten.

Jalali said the Americans had no "legal link" to any Afghan or other authorities.

Still, officials said they were seen regularly around Kabul wearing military uniforms and armed with assault rifles.

Idema, described in media reports as an ex-special forces operative known as "Jack," first appeared in Afghanistan (news - web sites) in late 2001, when U.S. and allied Afghan forces routed the Taliban.

He featured prominently in a top-selling book, "The Hunt for Bin Laden," which says he fought for 10 months alongside the anti-Taliban Northern Alliance.

He also offered his services to Western television networks, including an apparent al-Qaida training video.

On Thursday, police gave an Associated Press reporter a business card apparently handed out by Idema.

The card bears an Afghan flag with a small Stars-and-Stripes at its center and a Northern Alliance flag. "Special Adviser" is printed on the bottom and "Jack" is scrawled in the Dari language at the top. None of the three phone numbers worked.

In Washington, Boucher confirmed Idema was one of the men in custody and identified another as Brent Bennett. He gave no other details.

One police official said Idema's group appeared to be behind the disappearance of a man in west Kabul three weeks ago.

The missing man was identified as Abdul Latif, and his wife told authorities she believed he had been taken into custody by members of the NATO (news - web sites)-led force that patrols the capital, said the police official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

He said three foreigners, dressed in military uniforms, returned to the house earlier this week, where police confronted them.

He said a man called Jack told the officers he had orders to arrest a terrorist before he could blow himself up in a government building. The three said they belonged to "an important network," but gave no other details, the police official said.

Jalali said all eight prisoners found Monday were released. It was not clear how long they had been held.

There was no sign of Latif, however, at his house in a quiet residential street of Kabul's Khoshal Khan district.

Two men who answered the door Thursday said they were refugees who had returned recently from Iran and the previous tenant's wife had recently moved out.

Idema and the two others were seized by Afghan police and intelligence officers in downtown Kabul on Monday. Jalali said the men were operating in Kabul under the guise of working for an export company.

On Thursday, uniformed Afghan intelligence officers refused to admit reporters into the house where the eight prisoners had been found in the city's Kart-e-Parwan district, which was barely visible over a high wall topped with barbed wire.

Residents said foreigners had lived there and they had noticed nothing suspicious.

The U.S. military took the unusual step Monday — before news of his detention was widely known — of distancing itself from Idema, saying in a statement: "The public should be aware that Idema does not represent the American government and we do not employ him."

A spokeswoman would give no details of Idema's activities, insisting Afghan authorities were leading the investigation.

U.S. Embassy spokeswoman Beth Lee said Thursday the Americans had been visited by U.S. officials, but she had no information on whether the United States had sought to take them into custody.

Associated Press Writer Stephen Graham in Kabul contributed to this report.


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To: Hank Rearden

Heh. Beat me to it.


41 posted on 07/09/2004 5:27:54 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: jjm2111

Are you sure teddy bears won't make them talk? What about puppies?


43 posted on 07/13/2004 7:15:57 AM PDT by Barney Gumble ("There are three types of lies: Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics." -- Mark Twain)
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To: Poohbah

http://www.pownetwork.org/phonies/phonies204.htm


45 posted on 12/30/2004 2:59:23 AM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Fedora; cyncooper; Howlin; Cindy
Reminds me of that T J Wilkinson "CIA" guy that Cap Hill Blue came up with:

(snip) Major news organizations and a celebrated author bought into his self-portrayal as an undercover spy, explosives expert, active-duty Special Forces operative, covert "black ops" specialist, and one of the few Americans truly dedicated to hunting down Mr. bin Laden and his al-Qaeda network.

But hundreds of documents, e-mail exchanges, photographs and other materials supplied by close associates of Mr. Idema offer an entirely different picture of who he really is a showman and convicted fraudster whose military career ended in 1984 before he'd even spent a day in live combat.

Perhaps because of his military-style uniform, the authority in his voice, his swagger and authentic use of Special Forces jargon, many journalists and media personalities accepted him too quickly as the real thing, according to journalists and close acquaintances who witnessed Mr. Idema's personality makeover.

"He's a very believable guy. He looks you in the eye. He looks like a Special Forces guy, acts like one. ... It's hard not to believe him once he gets talking," said Robin Moore, author of the 2003 book The Hunt for Bin Laden, Task Force Dagger, which features Mr. Idema as one of the central figures in the Afghanistan war.

A photo of Mr. Idema, 48, appears on the book's cover, and he receives co-author credit in the book's British version.

Mr. Moore, who also wrote The Green Berets and The French Connection, said he had been warned repeatedly about Mr. Idema during the 14 years they have been acquainted. He said they met in 1990 outside a Special Forces convention, where Mr. Idema was hawking military accessories. But it was only after the book was published that he began taking those warnings seriously.

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-------"Records seem to discredit self-proclaimed Special Forces expert.....Out of service since '84, man accused in Afghan case never saw combat," By TOD ROBBERSON / The Dallas Morning News, Monday, August 30, 2004

46 posted on 12/30/2004 3:05:56 AM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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