For those who aren't fully in the loop - basically the Arab Sudanese government is apparently not satsified with killing Christian and animist Sudanese in the south of the country, they're killing black Muslims for racial reasons now.
Regards, Ivan
Posted on 07/06/2004 10:43:48 PM PDT by MadIvan
For those who aren't fully in the loop - basically the Arab Sudanese government is apparently not satsified with killing Christian and animist Sudanese in the south of the country, they're killing black Muslims for racial reasons now.
Regards, Ivan
Ping!
Damn. What the hell are we waiting for? People can't see fascism when it's spreadin? Aint this how we ended up in WWII. At the end? Seeming suprised at how our enemies had grown in strength? Isolationists?
These Islomocists are modern day facists and it's not going to end until we bring them to thier knees.
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The score
Murdering ragheads 3
Useless as Tits on a Boar UN 0
"Basketcase of a continent" bump...
Trading in the Blood Oil of SudanOn April 3, Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney testified before a hearing of the Subcommittee on Africa and the Joint Subcommittee on International Operations and Human Rights. The subject was Sudan. "At the heart of the suffering is oil from the oil-rich southern regions of Sudan, which is being pumped out of Sudan through the port of Khartoum for consumption by the West... And all the while," she went on, "Western oil companies continue to operate within the human rights disaster we call Sudan and pump their precious black gold. We in the West might as well be filling our gas tanks with blood from the hundreds of thousand of poor souls who have lost their lives in Sudan. . . . Amnesty International reported that a shipment of Polish battle tanks arrived in Sudan on the day the first export of oil left the Port of Khartoum. . . . There is no doubt that Sudan's oil shipments are being reinvested in their ongoing war in the south."
by Nat Hentoff
April 26th, 2001Khartoum Savours the Sweet Smell of New MoneyWar, drought and reckless oil exploitation threaten the lives of millions of people in the Sudan... The pipeline, marked every 500 meters by yellow or red warning signs, is buried under a low vault of earth changing from black to dusty red as it ploughs through different soil types. Whatever its colour, the pipeline is watched over by military check points every five kilometres with additional mobile units walking up and down the road at all times. This pipeline, running an amazing 1,600 kilometre, is the vulnerable main artery of the Sudanese government's newly found riches and rebels must be kept away from it at any cost... The last couple of years the Sudanese army and allied militias have been waging a savage war in Upper Nile, leaving the areas around oil installations and supply roads virtually empty of the original population. Hundreds have been killed in attacks on civilian villages... Starved and displaced, the legitimate owners of this oil rich land are at the mercy of the bush and the occasional relief agency... Recently detailed reports from journalists, human rights organisations and the British charity Christian Aid have presented first hand testimony to the fact, that the oil exploitation is causing massive human suffering and has deepened the crisis in Sudan... Other major foreign players include Chinese and Malaysian companies as well as British and German suppliers of pipelines, pump stations and other essential equipment. Among the allegations against companies such as Sweden's Lundin Oil or Canada's Talisman Energy are eyewitness accounts to the effect that oil company roads and airfields are being used by government forces when they attack people living in the oil areas... Carl Bildt, a former Swedish prime minister and currently a UN representative to the Balkans, sits on the board of Lundin Oil... The displaced, like 99.9 percent of the Sudanese population, live way outside the oil bubble's posh mansions, and cannot even dream of ever hanging out in Internet cafes. Where they live, not even snail mail would reach.
Vanessa Gordon
African Church Information Service
April 17, 2001China puts '700,000 troops' on Sudan alertCol Johnny Garang's Sudan People's Liberation Army (SPLA) has managed in recent weeks to advance within 10 miles of the oilfields in the Upper Nile region, causing the country's Islamic regime to activate emergency plans drawn up with allies whose interests in the oil project are directly under threat.
by Christina Lamb, Diplomatic Correspondent
Sunday 27 August 2000
These plans aim to crush the rebels from the mainly Christian and animist south and bring to an end the 17-year civil war that has cost an estimated two million lives. Since oil production began last year arms have been arriving from Libya, Qatar and China. The ruling National Islamic Front (NIF) is spending £300 million a year of its oil revenues on weapons, according to western intelligence sources.
An internal document from the Sudanese military said that as many as 700,000 Chinese security personnel were available for action. Three flights a week have been taking the Chinese into Sudan since work on the oilfields started three years ago. Diplomats in Khartoum, however, cast doubt on the numbers.Sudanese Want U.S. Policy ChangeWith President Clinton in office, Washington lambasted President Omar el-Bashir's government for being an oppressive, undemocratic sponsor of terrorism that carried out gross human rights violations and condoned slavery. Sudanese officials in turn accused Washington of being ignorant of Sudan and supporting the Sudan People's Liberation Army rebels, while simplifying the conflict as one between northern Muslim, Arabs, and the black, Christian south. The war has claimed some 2 million lives since it broke out in 1983. The United States has not had an ambassador in Sudan since February 1996; Sudan's ambassador to the United States was recalled in 1998. Relations were not always so poor. Sudan, a huge country that bridges black Africa and the Arab world, was the biggest sub-Saharan Africa recipient of U.S. aid from 1974 to 1989. But relations soured after el-Bashir came to power in a bloodless coup in 1989. In contrast to the United States, European countries are moving to re-establish relations with Sudan.6 nations scored for abuse of faithSecretary of State Colin L. Powell yesterday designated six nations as "countries of particular concern" for abuses of religious freedom but rejected widespread calls for Saudi Arabia to be included on the list. Mr. Powell identified China, Iran, Iraq, Burma, North Korea and Sudan as such -- the same six he designated last year -- keeping in place the possibility of sanctions against them... However, his decision not to designate Saudi Arabia, which bans nearly all forms of non-Muslim worship, as an punishable violator of religious rights was clearly the most significant information imparted by the statement... Saudi Arabia, a key Persian Gulf ally, is likely to play a major role in any conflict given its geography and the presence of thousands of U.S. troops there... "We're not going to list them, but we are going to press them on this," a senior official said on the condition of anonymity on Monday. "We think there is an opportunity to push really hard this year." ...Although the Saudi government had given indications it was willing to allow non-Muslims to worship in private, U.S. officials said the pledge had never been codified or clarified and that non-Muslims continued to suffer harassment, including assaults and the confiscation of religious material.
Agence France-Presse
March 6, 2003
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Didn't Bush start a program to import Sudanese to this country? I read aroun themiddle of June that Fargo ND has already imported some 500 families, with at least one of them, "a brilliant 25 year old engineering student" already facing charges of raping two minors.
Maybe, Maxine Waters and the rest of the CBC should go over there for a fact finding mission.
Oh wait, they are too busy trying to get Aristide back into office.
My bad.
Oh, what a mess. We'll never see the whole truth from the media over here, so gathering any sort of support to help the Sudanese people at the root cause is going to go nowhere. We can send all the money, food and supplies we want, but until that regime is gone, our help is more likely to be stolen, then sold.
I just finished reading Churchill's _River War_. An account of British operations in the Sudan in the late 1800's. These barbarians have not changed a little bit. Slave taking, genocide, religious fanatisism and slaughter is their way of life.
Another thing to note is that this is another genocide against a disarmed population.
Don't be too hard on the UN. They are currently in a vicious battle with spam. They said it shoud be defeated in about two years.
Serious question: If we identify it as a genocide against a helpless people what is our obligation?
Genocide against armed populations hasn't proved as successful.
Good question. We don't have either the resources or the obligation to put troops in every savage corner of the world. A private effort to buy a few thousand bolt action surplus rifles and ammo and deliver them in modest size batches to the oppressed population might be the best that could be hoped for.
The UN is of course useless or worse.
Usually the UN can be expected to do everything short of actually helping the people in these sorts of situations, but in this case they've done nothing, not even issued a strongly-worded condemnation.
The Sudan's been spending big on hi-tech that you know is over their head. Destroy it. If they persist in the south hit the palaces. The alternative is hand-wringing and finger pointing five years from now ala Rwanda and Clinton.
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