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This is the first new description of any new evidence in this case for the last 2 years. The trouble is - is just another excuse to delay these 2 lawsuits or is it real?
1 posted on 07/04/2004 6:08:42 AM PDT by TrebleRebel
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To: Shermy; Mitchell; jpl

ping


2 posted on 07/04/2004 6:09:07 AM PDT by TrebleRebel
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To: TrebleRebel

It took almost 3 years to discover this?


3 posted on 07/04/2004 6:18:17 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Uday is DU in Pig Latin)
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To: TrebleRebel

None of this passes the common sense logic test. The agencies and administration must have a good reason for witholding where this anthrax came from.


7 posted on 07/04/2004 6:28:58 AM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: TrebleRebel

bump


13 posted on 07/04/2004 6:42:14 AM PDT by VOA
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To: TrebleRebel

Sounds to me like a bogus leak put out there as the set-up for the next six month delay the government is going to ask the judges for.


18 posted on 07/04/2004 8:44:02 AM PDT by jpl ("America's greatest chapter is still to be written, for the best is yet to come." - Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: TrebleRebel

Hmm, maybe priming the pump for an "October Surprise"?

Iraq and Anthrax?

Maybe they finally found a match to the "signature" in some lab., say in Iraq?


19 posted on 07/04/2004 8:51:07 AM PDT by Dr Snide (vis pacem, para bellum - Prepare for war if you want peace)
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To: TrebleRebel
The most rational explanation of the anthrax investigations is that our government simply isn't ready to declare war yet, keyword being yet, against the nation that perpetrated the attacks.

Iraq is out of the way now, so it wasn't Iraq. Afghanistan is out of the way too, so it wasn't the Afghans.

Could be Syrian. Could be North Korean. Could be Iranian.

But Bush's strategy of knocking off one at a time rather than taking on two established governments at once seems to be the prudent way to handle this matter.

It does raise the question of which nation will be the next to fall to our wrath, though.

23 posted on 07/04/2004 1:06:58 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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I have a friend who was very involved in bio warfare at high levels he has long maintained it probably came from Iraq. Also the way it was dispersed (particles were made to float) is a key bit of evidence ....he says it could only have been done in a well equiped lab.


25 posted on 07/04/2004 1:32:10 PM PDT by woofie ( Ya gotta know who ya is and who ya aint ...cause if ya dont know who ya aint ,ya aint who ya is.)
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To: TrebleRebel

Also my conjecture is the people (Mohamed Atta etc.) who brought us 9/11 had the stuff ready to go when they attacked (someone else mailed itdays later)...If so is that not definitive proof of a 9/11 Iraq connection?


26 posted on 07/04/2004 1:37:01 PM PDT by woofie ( Ya gotta know who ya is and who ya aint ...cause if ya dont know who ya aint ,ya aint who ya is.)
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To: Fresh Wind; TrebleRebel; Mitchell; jpl; Sacajaweau; Gorzaloon; genefromjersey; cgk; Southack; ...
It took almost 3 years to discover this?

Maybe not, maybe they learned a long time ago. Will the judge ask? If it did take 3 years, why so long? My position is that they weren't testing it for what it was, but for what they hoped it be, perhaps with the disinformative persuasion of helpful outsiders, and the FBI only got their kick in the pants in the Nov. 2003 Science article - the date of the FBI's claim of "new" testings, ie, tests they negelected to do before.

It's a disgraceful scandal, hope someone spills the beans in the future.

BTW, yes, IMO, this leak is a preemptive "strike" to make the judge think there is validity to this "new' claim from the mere authority of it's retelling in the media. I'm sure of this because the Shane article was planted today in just one other publication: The South Florida Sun-Sentinel, the same place as the one other anthrax law suit, the AMI one. Coplete scam, expect more delays unless Hatfill's lawyers explain the delays, and pose why the heck is another delay needed due to scientific tests.

34 posted on 07/04/2004 5:39:05 PM PDT by Shermy
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Shermy, I think you're probably right that the FBI is stalling, but the question is why. Sooner or later they're going to have to take the hit.

Will the judge ask?

Good question. Here's his info:

Judge Reggie B. Walton assumed his position as a United States District Judge for the District of Columbia on October 29, 2001, after being nominated to the position by President George W. Bush and confirmed by the United States Senate. Judge Walton previously served as an Associate Judge of the Superior Court of the District of Columbia from 1981 to 1989 and 1991 to 2001, having been appointed to that position by Presidents Ronald Reagan in 1981 and George H. W. Bush in 1991. While serving on the Superior Court, Judge Walton was the court's Presiding Judge of the Family Division, Presiding Judge of the Domestic Violence Unit and Deputy Presiding Judge of the Criminal Division. Between 1989 and 1991, Judge Walton served as President George H. W. Bush's Associate Director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy in the Executive Office of the President and as President Bush's Senior White House Advisor for Crime.

Ever the cynical optimist, I wonder if this could in any way be a good thing--that they really are in a critical stage of an investigation. Southack pretty much summed up the possibilty of foreign perps, and I guess it's pretty reasonable that we'd want to wait till we're ready to go before we i.d. them.

OTOH what if they're actually investigating domestic perps or highly placed domestic perps in collusion with foreign ones?

Yeah I know. Not likely any such would go anywhere even if true, but look back at the thread backhoe was kind enough to link in #32--look at rubbertramp's #59 post: I think his most dangerous association was his cover up of Hillary's Iraqgate connections to that Kennemetal firm...remember, all that commerce with people we were at war with, facilitating bioterrorism.

I haven't thought about Kennemetal or Iraqgate (GWI) in years! However, I have thought often about anthrax and who might have used it long before 9/11. (Vics being Russell Welsh and Ron Miller.)

The cynic can't believe anybody in this administration would ever prosecute certain perps, but I keep remembering the satisfaction, if not enjoyment, I thought I heard in Ashcroft's voice when he busted Gorelick publically for her "wall" which facilitated 9/11, whatever her intent may have been.

I'm just thinking of a few very quiet investigations/prosecutions that have been going on below the radar of national media: Philadelphia, Enron (very little reported, but it's going on) plus the Ron Brown's Body has a bullet in the head stuff that's coming back into focus again. What if this is a real investigation that encompasses the 1997 possible anthrax poisoning of Ron Miller and the late '80s anthrax poisoningdiagnosis for Russell Welsh.

44 posted on 07/04/2004 9:48:00 PM PDT by Sal
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To: TrebleRebel

FBI - Famous, But Incompetent.

These people are morons. Where were 12 FBI agents on 9/11? Staking out a brothel in New Orleans.


81 posted on 07/08/2004 4:44:53 AM PDT by BigAzzHam ("Ward, I think there's something wrong with the Beaver." - June Cleaver)
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"Distinct signature found in ’01 anthrax"
90 posted on 07/08/2004 11:41:17 AM PDT by Legion04
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This is the first new description of any new evidence in this case for the last 2 years. The trouble is - is just another excuse to delay these 2 lawsuits or is it real?

Perhaps we got a match from a former Iraqi biowar facility.

126 posted on 07/09/2004 4:47:38 PM PDT by Poohbah ("Mister Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!" -- President Ronald Reagan, Berlin, 1987)
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To: TrebleRebel
Distinct signature found in ’01 anthrax


184 posted on 07/12/2004 10:42:36 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: TrebleRebel
Distinct signature found in ’01 anthrax


185 posted on 07/12/2004 10:43:20 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: TrebleRebel

I wonder if that signature read Lt. Col. Philip Zack?


190 posted on 07/12/2004 2:30:35 PM PDT by paleocon patriarch (Rule One: -"The cover-up is worse than the event." Rule Two: "No one ever remembers the first rule.)
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