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THE LIGHTS ARE GOING OUT
NROTC ^ | 7/2/04 | John Derbyshire

Posted on 07/02/2004 3:15:09 PM PDT by swilhelm73

THE LIGHTS ARE GOING OUT [John Derbyshire] A Pentecostalist pastor in Sweden has been sentenced to one month in jail for criticizing homosexuality in a sermon. Story here.

Sweden today, the USA tomorrow. I see from the current HUMAN EVENTS that a "hate crime" amendment was slipped into the Defense Authorization Bill (S. 2400) to add homosexuals to the list of protected classes of citizens under U.S. civil rights law. This follows relentless lobbying from groups with innocuous, deliberately deceptive names like "Human Rights Campaign." Naturally the amendment passed the Senate by a landslide: "Eighteen Republicans and all Democrats present voted in favor."

Crimes are crimes--these “hate crimes” laws are aimed at censoring speech, protecting people from feeling offended--something quite subjective. We are losing our ancient liberties, ladies and gentleman, and the political classes, regardless of party, are perfectly OK with it. Posted at 12:25 PM


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: atheism; catholiclist; christianity; churchandstate; derbyshire; freespeech; goodvsevil; hedonism; homosexualagenda; homosexualbehavior; pastor; romans1; secularhumanism; spiritualbattle; sweden; wagesofsin
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To: RobbyS

Well. Two posts! Perhaps you,like, Derbyshire, find all gays "priggish" and "annoying"?

Paranoia? Can you say "projection?"


21 posted on 07/02/2004 3:56:18 PM PDT by annyokie (There are two sides to every argument, but I'm too busy to listen to yours.)
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To: swilhelm73
The gay nazi's...it used to be a joke. How times change.
22 posted on 07/02/2004 3:56:48 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Tacis
Are there forces at work that we don't see or understand?

I see the force everyday, such as the subject of this article, and I understand it perfectly. It's called by some-"Evil".

FMCDH(BITS)

23 posted on 07/02/2004 3:58:47 PM PDT by nothingnew (KERRY: "If at first you don't deceive, lie, lie again!")
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To: annyokie

Your post two was meant to be sarcasm, wasn't it?


24 posted on 07/02/2004 4:01:50 PM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: annyokie
My point is: John Derbyshire exults in homosexual bashing. Indeed, to such an extent that he seeks out odd articles from Scotland and such to make his gleeful points.

Oh. You are serious.

You are quite mad.

25 posted on 07/02/2004 4:03:16 PM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: freebilly

"Swedenistic." I like that word. Can I use it?


26 posted on 07/02/2004 4:07:36 PM PDT by bourbon
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To: swilhelm73

"When the lights go out," by Oingo Boingo.

When the lights go out
Everybody has fun
When the lights go out
Everybody runs to a safe place
When the lights go out
Everybody's afraid
When the lights go out
Everybody starts to pray
Starts to pray

Monsters & Madmen
All come alive
When the dead start walking
There's no place to hide
There's no place to hide

CHORUS
Hey--Let's turn the night into day
Let's start a fire in an alley way
Let's all go crazy by & by
And let's all pray to the cat's eye

No one can be trusted, when the lights go out
People act real crazy, people start to shout
People huddle together, try and hide their fear
People party down by they ain't goin' nowhere
They ain't goin' nowhere

Gonna run outside
What's there to see
Just one big shadow there to comfort me
There to comfort me . . . there to comfort me

CHORUS

Just common folks like you and me
Turn into mobs that get so crazy
Prowl the streets like cats
Out for the hunt
Breaking all the windows just because it's fun
Just because it's fun, just because it's fun


27 posted on 07/02/2004 4:10:40 PM PDT by bourbon
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To: swilhelm73
This is an example of what Ross Perot was talking about with regard to the Line Item veto, which would have allowed the Standing President to exclude CERTAIN ITEMS upon signing the bill in question. I voted for Perot in 92, and so should you all have. You reap what you sow.

And I wash my hands of your demolition. :)

28 posted on 07/02/2004 4:11:02 PM PDT by Dec31,1999
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To: Dec31,1999

Yeah we'd have the line item veto...and we'd all have to wear tin foil hats to keep out the CIA/Alien mind control rays out. :)

That guy is nuttier then Al Gore.


29 posted on 07/02/2004 4:16:58 PM PDT by swilhelm73 (We always have been, we are, and I hope that we always shall be detested in France.")
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To: bourbon

Yes, you may use it. Just send residuals...!


30 posted on 07/02/2004 4:19:38 PM PDT by freebilly (Vote Kerry-- 1 Billion Muslims Can't Be Wrong....)
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To: annyokie
"Well. Two posts! Perhaps you,like, Derbyshire, find all gays "priggish" and "annoying"?

"Paranoia? Can you say "projection?"

Do you find anyone who expresses a negative opinion about homos to be 'homophobes'? Talk about projection! How gay...

31 posted on 07/02/2004 4:30:16 PM PDT by monkeywrench
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To: Noumenon
Well, you'd better start organizing your base if you wish that to happen. It's not 1998 anymore, y'know, and the old timer die hards are dying out real fast.

My guess is that most folks will drink the Kool Aid upon arrival and 90% of the rest will turn in their guns pronto.

32 posted on 07/02/2004 4:52:02 PM PDT by Dec31,1999
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To: annyokie

The pastor apparently said that according to the Bible homosexuality is wrong. I fail to see why that is an offense that deserves a jail term.

There has been some effort to reinterpret the Bible, but according to reasonable, traditional readings of it there are several passages which declare that homosexuality is wrong, sinful, and unnatural. You can disagree with that, but a Christian minister has a perfect right to say it.


33 posted on 07/02/2004 4:58:33 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: annyokie

And this discredits the ARTICLE or what SWEDEN DID exactly how?


34 posted on 07/02/2004 4:58:58 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news.)
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To: swilhelm73

Swedish pastor sentenced to one month's jail for offending homosexuals

Stockholm (ENI). A Swedish court has sentenced a pastor belonging to the Pentecostal movement in Sweden, Ake Green, to a month in prison, under a law against incitement, after he was found guilty of having offended homosexuals in a sermon. Soren Andersson, the president of the Swedish federation for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender rights (RFSL), said on hearing the sentence that religious freedom could never be used as a reason to offend people. "Therefore," he told journalists, "I cannot regard the sentence as an act of interference with freedom of religion." During a sermon in 2003, Green described homosexuality as "abnormal, a horrible cancerous tumour in the body of society".

It is later than you think. ! ! !


35 posted on 07/02/2004 5:46:24 PM PDT by Jimbaugh (They will not get away with this. Developing . . . . .)
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To: swilhelm73

If it ever gets to the point where I can't open my mouth and criticize anyone I damned well please, I'll take to the underground and become a terrorist.


36 posted on 07/02/2004 5:48:17 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("This house is sho' gone crazy!")
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To: annyokie

It's not "homosexual bashing." There's a serious problem in society when someone is put in jail for their Christian beliefs. The Bible is pretty unequivocal in its condemnation of homosexual activity, and Christian ministers and priests have every right to convey that religious teaching to their flocks. We're next in line for it here in the US, if some have their way.


37 posted on 07/02/2004 5:53:26 PM PDT by valkyrieanne
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To: swilhelm73

Just to be clear where I stand:

Homosexual "marriage" is not good for children compared to one mother and one father.

Saudi Arabia is the source of Al Quaida's funding, ideology, training, personnel, and leadership.

The French Suck.

Canadians are evil mean people who curtail free speech rights.

My college hires whack-jobs who self-desecrate in order to create hate crimes.

If Black Americans would quit desecrating their most recently chosen name with their behavior, we wouldn't have to call them African Americans (or anything else) next.

Did I forget anyone?


38 posted on 07/02/2004 6:06:59 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Mullahs swinging from lamp posts.....)
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To: swilhelm73

The Swedes aren't too big on the whole "liberty" thing.


39 posted on 07/02/2004 6:24:14 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Ever talk to a Swede? They sure think they are...which is more the pity.

Orwell was all too right...to more and more Euro slavery is freedom.


40 posted on 07/02/2004 6:26:24 PM PDT by swilhelm73 (We always have been, we are, and I hope that we always shall be detested in France.")
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