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Moore's lib backlash?
JWR ^ | 7/2/04 | Jack Kelly

Posted on 07/02/2004 2:21:36 PM PDT by pookie18

It's clear his film "Fahrenheit 9/11" will make Michael Moore a ton of money. Moore also hopes it will influence the presidential election. Liberal pundits Ellen Goodman and Richard Cohen fear it may.

"Halfway through 'Fahrenheit 9/11,' I realized this wasn't an audience, it was a fan club," Goodman said in her Boston Globe column.

Goodman came to the theater expecting to be one of the fans. "If 'Fahrenheit 9/11' preaches to the choir, you could find me in the alto section," she said.

But the movie made her uneasy. "Not even this alto believes the Iraq war was brought to us courtesy of the Bush-Saudi oil money connection. Not even the rosiest pair of my retro-spectacles sees prewar Iraq as a happy valley where little children flew kites."

(Excerpt) Read more at jewishworldreview.com ...


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KEYWORDS: backlash; fahrenheit911; jackkelly
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To: pookie18

the composition of the audiences is meaningless - if the left's kooks want to go see this, let them.

they key is to discredit the film, and link it to Kerry. Our pundits are doing a good job of this, but I don't see an effective media strategy from the white house to send our surrogates to all these talk shows and use this talking point - over and over again. Force Kerry to make a statement about Moore.


21 posted on 07/02/2004 3:26:45 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: PhiKapMom
Have you seen in the news about the new archaeological site in Utah where the owner of the land kept it secret for many years. He was on the news last night and he said, and I paraphrase, I had to keep it a secret, I didn't want the hippies coming in and tearing things up.
22 posted on 07/02/2004 3:32:12 PM PDT by MarkeyD (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com">Morbidly Obese</a>)
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To: MissyMa
This paper is so left I refuse to buy it and stick with the Boston Herald.

So, not even fit for wrapping the fish or lining the bird cage? : )
23 posted on 07/02/2004 3:36:50 PM PDT by Rastus (Forget it, Moby! I'm voting for Bush!)
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To: oceanview
they key is to discredit the film, and link it to Kerry. Our pundits are doing a good job of this, but I don't see an effective media strategy from the white house to send our surrogates to all these talk shows and use this talking point - over and over again. Force Kerry to make a statement about Moore.


24 posted on 07/02/2004 3:41:14 PM PDT by pookie18
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To: MarkeyD

Saw that on Foxnews tonight! That old farmer is smarter than a junkyard dog. He knew if anyone knew, the lib enviro and PC freaks would put him out of business and his due retirement. And we all know they would have.


25 posted on 07/02/2004 3:45:43 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: pookie18

The internet took all the lib ammoo.

That's why they get so wild eyed.


26 posted on 07/02/2004 3:47:50 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (Hillary was in charge of the FBI files, which went into a data base: WHoDB. Genious hackers, expose)
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To: MarkeyD

I didn't hear that -- thanks for posting that info! I know what he means -- those people still irritate me. Most of the hippy movement was in college when I was in high school -- we had Antioch College, Berkley of the East near where I grew up.

In the late 60's or early 70's when I took my little brother (who is now a lot taller than I am) to the mall -- he pointed to one of the long haired dirty creatures and shouted -- "There's a hippy!" (He is on FR so he can laugh at this if he sees it!) We quickly went the other way while I was snickering all the way!


27 posted on 07/02/2004 3:52:13 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Oklahoma is Reagan Country and now Bush Country -- Win Another One for the Gipper!)
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To: pookie18

This is a good article. Well worth reading on the site itself.


28 posted on 07/02/2004 3:58:38 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Must get moose and squirrel ... B. Badanov)
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To: PhiKapMom

I went to see The Notebook on Sunday. As I walked through the parking lot, I went past a group of lefty-looking guys saying how much the first four years of Bush sucked. I knew immediately they had just seen 911. When I came out to my car, there was a beat-up old station wagon with a Kerry bumper sticker on it next to me- another 911 patron! They are just so easy to spot because they are so typical. They are caricatures of themselves and don't even know it.


29 posted on 07/02/2004 4:04:40 PM PDT by usmom
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To: PhiKapMom
Guess you didn't hear Rush today -- the vast majority of 18-year old voters are Conservative which equates in today's terms to voting Republican.

He pointed out that protestors are mostly in the their 50's and 60's.

In my business, the stockmarket .. all the young kids we hire ... 20s, 30s are all conservative with few exceptions.

30 posted on 07/02/2004 4:09:30 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Must get moose and squirrel ... B. Badanov)
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To: PhiKapMom
I did miss Rush today. I usually listen to it in my office but had the day off so I was running errands.

I'm sorry I missed it now. It is good to hear that not all in the 18-25 age range don't believe everything that is crammed down their throat.

We have a talk show host here in MA by the name of Jay Severin(sp). He brought up and excellent point last night saying that the youth of today are not as accepting of what they hear in the media because there are so many different places you can get your news from. I.E. newspapers, cable TV, Internet. Not when I was younger and all we had were the big 3 networks and a couple of newspapers.

I hear you on the shrill baby boomers. I think many are trying to relive their Vietnam protesting days.
31 posted on 07/02/2004 4:11:22 PM PDT by MissyMa
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To: MissyMa
Kerry was pretty fringe himself back in the early 70s. Maybe denouncing Moore would hit him too close to home.
33 posted on 07/02/2004 6:45:42 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: OpusatFR
Take the whole argument and turn the absurdity into insanity. Ridicule goes a long way and can be turned on its face.

I'm having trouble comming up with something more insane. Perhaps we should just associate him more closely to Kerry...as in possible VP candidate, or perhaps an ambassador position where he can tell other countries about how evil and stupid we are.

34 posted on 07/02/2004 6:51:38 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: MissyMa

Liberal = Michael Moore =
Disgusting lying creep pigface = Democratic Party = something America doesn't want to be or vote for.


35 posted on 07/02/2004 6:56:56 PM PDT by Ciexyz ("FR, best viewed with a budgie on hand")
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To: pookie18

I'm in Ireland, and it's scary how many young people see Moore's books like some new age Bible. They are so ill-informed about the facts, yet ponce about with the air of know-it-all-bullshitism.

Challenge them on the facts, or question their modern day Moore mantra's, and they look at ME like I'm a relic. (I'm only 33! *L*)

But, I'm kinda tenacious. And besides, I get a kinda sick kick out of scratching away the veneer of their pseudo-intellectualism.
Gives me something to do, in between, complaining about the Government! *L*


36 posted on 07/02/2004 7:03:11 PM PDT by Happygal (Le gách dea ghuí)
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To: pookie18; GatorGirl; maryz; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; Askel5; livius; ...

Without sounding intense, nutty or extreme, we need to spread liberal anti-Moore views gently to our friends and family. We need to make certain we vote in November. Howard Stern and Michael Moore have taken the initiative is the agitiprop campaign. The ball is now in our court.


37 posted on 07/02/2004 7:03:14 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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To: pookie18
Here's my take on the whole "Fahrenheit 911" thing:

1. This proves that the Democrats have become completely divorced from reason or rationality.

2. The movie draws increasing scrutiny to Moore's anti-American extremism, such as the NYT reporting his hateful remarks about his own country to the British press.

3. By November, this celluloid screed will be long forgotten, along with the Iraqi prisoner "abuse scandal".

And if the extremist polemic of Moore's political fantasy film makes moderates and independents think twice about voting for the current crop of mad-dog, Marxist Democrats, just wait until the DNC unleashes the true crazies on the podium of the Democratic Convention to scream, froth, and rave on national television!

38 posted on 07/02/2004 9:18:45 PM PDT by FierceDraka ("Party Before Country" - The New Motto of the Democratic Party)
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To: Happygal

I would say almost everyone living in another country goes through that on a day to day basis. Just sort of becomes a way of life. I sometimes engage but other times I feel I don't have enough info. Especially with Moore, I've been to a few anti-moore blogs that go into detail about his screwed up facts. Do you by chance know of any site that list his statements and disputes them one by one?

I would really like to get my facts right. I was tired of Moore before but now I smell blood, silly European blood. I lived outside the US for a few years off and on. I’ve always enjoyed my battles because I’ve learned to pick’em a lot better. As you mentioned, you are cleaning their clocks right now because they really don’t have a clue. I want some of that action any cliff notes for me?


39 posted on 07/03/2004 1:04:52 AM PDT by Rahmulus
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