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Haggard Saddam Defies Iraqi Tribunal ["This is all a theater, the real criminal is Bush."]
Rutters... er....Reuters ^ | July 1, 2004 | By Alistair Lyon

Posted on 07/01/2004 7:33:18 AM PDT by johnny7

BAGHDAD - Downcast but defiant, Iraq's deposed dictator Saddam Hussein appeared before an Iraqi tribunal on Thursday, refusing to recognize its authority and saying the "real criminal" was President Bush.

Saddam, who arrived at the courthouse in handcuffs and chains, was read seven charges under a preliminary arrest warrant and told his rights, pool reporters granted access to the heavily guarded proceedings said. "I am Saddam Hussein, president of Iraq," he repeated. Video footage of the 67-year-old Saddam, looking thinner, haggard and with a mostly gray beard, was broadcast around the world soon after his 30-minute court appearance. He had heavy bags under his eyes and was wearing a dark gray jacket and a white shirt, with no tie. It was the first footage shown of Saddam since he appeared unkempt with a bushy beard in photographs and videotape shot after his capture in December.

Saddam refused to recognize that he was guilty of a crime in invading and occupying Kuwait in 1990, telling the judge: "I did that for the Iraqi people. How can you defend these dogs?" The judge reprimanded Saddam for his language and reminded him he was in a court of law. He looked around with half-smile, saying: "This is all a theater, the real criminal is Bush."

He arrived in a U.S. helicopter at a military base and was then driven in an armored bus to the makeshift courtroom in one of his former palaces near Baghdad international airport. Two burly Iraqi guards escorted him into the courthouse where his chains were removed. His handcuffs were taken off inside the courtroom itself, where he sat down facing cameras.

TRIAL MONTHS AWAY
The arraignment was the first step toward a trial which could help Iraq come to terms with 35 years of Baath party brutality, though it may not start for many months.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: fryhisass; iraqijustice; iraqitribunal; prisonersaddam; saddam
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To: TeleStraightShooter; Grampa Dave; Shermy; Ernest_at_the_Beach; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo

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Hmmm perhaps members of congress were influenced by the Food-for-Oil/ "No War"-for-Oil scam.

Mr. Alkhafaji, one of two Americans named in Iraqi newspapers as a participant in Saddam's "Oil for Food" scam, gave Congressman McDermott $5,000

121 posted on 07/01/2004 12:32:21 PM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (Kerry{D-Hanoi} plans to graff post-Vietnam policy on Iraq: Exit & let the Syrian Baathists take over)
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To: TeleStraightShooter

If we ever find/see the full extent of what the Opecker Blood Money has bought re the rats in America, we might have trials like the ones starting in Iraq.


122 posted on 07/01/2004 12:34:40 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Moore has not only insulted the nation, he has insulted the victims of the 9/11 terrorist attacks!)
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To: Az. Mike
You know Saddam has lost weight, and why is he wearing a beard, little botox and he would look great, and why no tie on his suit.

Oh, well that's life as a Dictator, he could have ended it with a explosive vest.

123 posted on 07/01/2004 12:35:14 PM PDT by agincourt1415 (Go ahead Bill suck up the Oxygen from Kerry LOL)
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To: neutrality
The term "conservative" in Hitler's case stems from his nationalist talking points. The term, when used in geopolitics, is relative. Muslim terrorists like al Qaeda are often called "conservatives", though their interpretation of Islam is only about 150 years old.

Hitler was a socialist. Head of the NAtional SoZIalist Worker's Party. All New Democrats are well versed in both Hitler's and Stalin's massamathical (spelling intended) social collectivism and propaganda techniques. This isn't a coincidence. Read Goebbels. Tell me his justifications and techniques don't seem awfully familiar.

124 posted on 07/01/2004 12:40:13 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: cake_crumb

Did you even read that link? I'm interested in a rebuttal instead of taking your word for it.

"However, there is no academic controversy over the status of this term: it was a misnomer. Misnomers are quite common in the history of political labels. Examples include the German Democratic Republic (which was neither) and Vladimir Zhirinovsky's "Liberal Democrat" party (which was also neither). The true question is not whether Hitler called his party "socialist," but whether or not it actually was."


125 posted on 07/01/2004 1:53:40 PM PDT by neutrality
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To: johnny7

Go Saddam go. If this doesn't spell landslide for President Bush in November, nothing will! No wonder the Dims are so upset, they adored this man who had absolute corrupt POWER, and now he is nothing but a two bit blowhard, headed to the execution chambers. President Bush couldn't have a better campaign ad if he spent a billon dollars.


126 posted on 07/01/2004 2:16:32 PM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath
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To: pcisfear

Still, no one beside him and an odd site; one you would not see here; the felon, reaching into his suit pocket to pull our a pen. . .


127 posted on 07/01/2004 2:32:27 PM PDT by cricket (To Hillary : We will not bow down to you. . .)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Yeah, Saddam and Democrats go *way* back. Remember how the Democrats supported his regime in the 80's by providing satellite intelligece for him to use when dropping poison gas on Iranian soldiers? That was a Democrat who did that, right? Right?

I would point out that the Allies supplied Stalin with a lot of aid militarily since the battle was against Germany at the time. In the 80's it was Iran who had to be held at bay.

128 posted on 07/01/2004 2:45:41 PM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge (A proud member of the self-preservation society)
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To: Az. Mike
Haggard? Saddam?...That's it, I knew he reminded me of someone! - Merle Haggard!

Not funny.

Merle Haggard is a Great American!

129 posted on 07/01/2004 2:48:06 PM PDT by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and sign up for a monthly donation.)
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To: All
and what was NBC doing when the trial began?

NEW YORK - NBC's "Today" show was embarrassed Thursday when it aired Katie Couric batting a badminton shuttlecock while its rivals showed the first footage of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s court appearance. Click here

130 posted on 07/01/2004 4:11:36 PM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: sure_fine

It's all about Katie, doncha know.


131 posted on 07/01/2004 4:16:14 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Grampa Dave
Registered Pic: Saddam's Day in Court





132 posted on 07/01/2004 4:29:25 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Become a monthly donor on FR. No amount is too small and monthly giving is the way to go !)
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To: TeleStraightShooter; Grampa Dave; Shermy; Ernest_at_the_Beach; PhilDragoo; devolve
Registered Pic: Saddam's Day in Court





133 posted on 07/01/2004 4:49:57 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Become a monthly donor on FR. No amount is too small and monthly giving is the way to go !)
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To: johnny7

Is Haggard Saddam related to Haggard, Merle?

134 posted on 07/01/2004 5:02:48 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: neutrality
Can you link me to a study that argues this point of view?

Thank you for asking, but unfortunately, I cannot. I did hear Dennis Prager discuss this at some length a couple of years ago, though. Here's the gist of what he said:

Socialism is a diluted form of communism. Nazism was a strain of socialism — Nazi is an acronym for National Socialist Party. In other words, the Nazis characterized themselves as socialists. However, Nazism had a strong racist/nationalistic component, which is why it today is considered to be a right-wing ideology.

As for myself, I don't buy that argument. Marxist-Leninist-Stalinist ideology and Hitlerian ideology have much in common even though Lenin, Stalin and Hitler all implemented Marxist ideology in somewhat different ways. In addition, the communist Russians were just as nationalistic and racist as the German Nazis, and the Russians killed many more people.

I think the big difference is that the Russians never started a war of aggression like the Germans did. (The Russians were more opportunistic, taking and keeping eastern Europe at the close of WWII, and using proxies to spread communism thereafter.) After WWII, no one wanted to be linked to Hitler, least of all adherents of communism/socialism, even though that is the ideology which had spawned him. So it became convenient to lable the Nazi strain of socialism as "right wing."

135 posted on 07/01/2004 5:07:57 PM PDT by Wolfstar (A vote for John Kerry is a vote for Jacques Chirac.)
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To: johnny7
"This is all a theater, the real criminal is Bush."

OK was this sadamn talking or michael moore, they both sound the same to me.....

136 posted on 07/01/2004 5:16:03 PM PDT by GUIDO
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To: BibChr
Hey I say keep the old man talking and talking and talking....everytime he does he sounds more and more like a democrat.

the rats right now are just shi$$in their pants hearing their talking points come out of this slimeballs mouth.

137 posted on 07/01/2004 5:20:29 PM PDT by GUIDO
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To: Kenton

This is all theater. The real criminal is Bush!

138 posted on 07/01/2004 6:58:04 PM PDT by alnick
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To: I still care

"Kerry/Hussein - has a kind of ring to it."

It sure does.

Maybe some enterprising digital graphic artist out there could mimic the Kerry signs with this name pairing and format it for downloading and taping together and laminating. In that way, every FReeper and interested patriotic American could post the sign to make sure people get the point.

Any takers?


139 posted on 07/01/2004 8:13:29 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (DEFUND THE CPB AND IT'S SPAWN: NPR, PBS & RADIO PACIFICA)
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To: johnny7
You know, the talking points of the Saddam and the DNC are almost identical. This is chilling. The Republicans have to make a video with Algore and Saddam giving similar rants, or perhaps Sharpton, or Kennedy, or Hitlery ...
140 posted on 07/01/2004 8:33:29 PM PDT by ashtanga
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