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Pistol found that killed 8.5 million people
Chicago Sun-Times ^
| June 22, 2004
| KATE CONNOLLY
Posted on 06/22/2004 10:07:58 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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This is an amazing find almost 90 years later to the day. Odd headline, though. I guess WWI was the pistol's fault.
To: Chi-townChief
Musta been one helluva magic bullet!
To: Chi-townChief
If the Archduke had never been assassinated, we would be living in a very different world today, one in which Fascism and Nazism and Communism would be mere words in a dictionary instead of affecting hundreds of millions of lives. So yes, one human life is as important as a billion.
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posted on
06/22/2004 10:10:59 AM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: Chi-townChief
My wife and I just saw a program on The History Channel concerning the details of the assasination.
For want of a driver that knew the route....
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posted on
06/22/2004 10:11:29 AM PDT
by
Badeye
("The day you stop learning, is the day you begin dying")
To: Chi-townChief
...the 90th anniversary of the assassination of the heir to the Austrian empire and his wife, Sophie... There was also a third victim; Sophie was pregnant at the time.
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posted on
06/22/2004 10:13:33 AM PDT
by
Van Jenerette
(Our Republic - If we can Keep it!)
To: Chi-townChief
Does anybody know exactly which model of Browning Pistol it is??
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posted on
06/22/2004 10:16:09 AM PDT
by
Pylot
To: Chi-townChief
--yeah--amazing it wasn't found "on the streets" where all those assault weapons are supposed to be---
To: Chi-townChief
![](http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2004/06/22/430_worldwarone,0.jpg)
Gavrilo Princip, second right, is arrested after the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand.
This photo is considered to be one of the biggest pictorial scoops.
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posted on
06/22/2004 10:19:05 AM PDT
by
Constitution Day
(Burger-Eating War Monkey)
To: ABG(anybody but Gore)
Somehow, something in the far reaches of my brain hint that you'll be interested in this:-)
To: goldstategop
---the same might be true if Woodrow Wilson's mother had had a "choice"---
To: Pylot
It was an FN manufactured Browning Model 1910, I believe.
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posted on
06/22/2004 10:21:05 AM PDT
by
Legion
To: Pylot
![](http://www.gunsworld.com/graphs/br1910s.gif)
According to www.gunsworld.com, it was a Browning 1910, Belguim made, .32 ACP
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posted on
06/22/2004 10:22:43 AM PDT
by
leadpencil1
(Kerry is a technicolor yawn!)
To: leadpencil1
![](http://www.gunsworld.com/graphs/fn1910.jpg)
Live pic.
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posted on
06/22/2004 10:24:30 AM PDT
by
leadpencil1
(Kerry is a technicolor yawn!)
To: goldstategop
To: goldstategop
I tend to lean toward the notion that this incident merely affected a change in the beginning stages of the war; that there was going to be a World War I in those years anyway; that effectively, it had already started except for the major shooting.
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posted on
06/22/2004 10:28:43 AM PDT
by
First_Salute
(May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
To: goldstategop
"If the Archduke had never been assassinated, we would be living in a very different world today, one in which Fascism and Nazism and Communism would be mere words in a dictionary"
Possibly, but doubtful. That may have been the final straw but the writing was already on the wall. Obviously it is impossible to predict what would have been different, but I think the world was on course for the war, Franz just showed them the shortcut.
"The Balkan Peninsula or the "Powder Keg of Europe" because tensions there threatened to ignite a major war. Rivalry for control of the Balkans added to the tensions that erupted into World War 1."
"The assassination of Archduke Francis Ferdinand triggered World War 1. But the war had its origins in developments of the 1800's. The main causes of World War 1 were:
The rise in nationalism
Build-up of military might
System of military alliances"
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posted on
06/22/2004 10:32:50 AM PDT
by
MPJackal
(Waiting for the big one and some nice beach front property in Nevada.)
To: goldstategop
If the Archduke had never been assassinated......then World War I might have been delayed for a while. It was the underlying tensions that were forming among the monarchies of Europe that insured it would happen one way or another.
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posted on
06/22/2004 10:32:53 AM PDT
by
FormerLib
(Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
To: Constitution Day; snopercod
See
Black HandIn May 1911, ten men in Serbia formed the Black Hand Secret Society. Early members included Colonel Dragutin Dimitrijevic, the chief of the Intelligence Department of the Serbian General Staff, Major Voja Tankosic and Milan Ciganovic. The main objective of the Black Hand was the creation, by means of violence, of a Greater Serbia. Its stated aim was: "To realize the national ideal, the unification of all Serbs. This organisation prefers terrorist action to cultural activities; it will therefore remain secret."
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posted on
06/22/2004 10:36:42 AM PDT
by
First_Salute
(May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
To: leadpencil1
According to www.gunsworld.com, it was a Browning 1910, Belguim made, .32 ACP There appears to be some uncertainty on whether it was a .32 or a .380, both were being manufactured at the time.
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posted on
06/22/2004 10:37:58 AM PDT
by
TC Rider
(The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
To: GSlob
"So they've done it to us," said the cleaning woman to Mr. Svejk. "They've killed our Ferdinand." Svejk had been discharged from military service years ago when a military medical commission had pronounced him to be officially an imbecile. Now, he was making his living by selling dogs, ugly mongrel mutants that he sold as purebreds by forging their pedigrees. In addition to this demeaning vocation, Svejk also suffered from rheumatism and was just now rubbing his aching knees with camphor ice.
"Which Ferdinand, Mrs. Muller?" he asked. "I know two Ferdinands. One is the pharmacist Prusa's delivery boy, who drank up a whole bottle of hair potion once by mistake. And then, I know one Ferdinand Kokoska, who collects dog turds. Neither one would be much of a loss."
"But Mr. Svejk! They killed the Archduke Ferdinand, the one from Konopste, the fat one, the religious one."
The opening sentences from The Good Soldier vejk and His Fortunes in the World War by Jaroslav Haek (New English translation by Zdenek Sadlon and Emmit Joyce.)
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posted on
06/22/2004 10:41:21 AM PDT
by
Revolting cat!
("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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