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Bush to screen population for mental illness
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | June 21, 2004

Posted on 06/21/2004 10:19:15 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

President Bush plans to unveil next month a sweeping mental health initiative that recommends screening for every citizen and promotes the use of expensive antidepressants and antipsychotic drugs favored by supporters of the administration.

The New Freedom Initiative, according to a progress report, seeks to integrate mentally ill patients fully into the community by providing "services in the community, rather than institutions," the British Medical Journal reported.

Critics say the plan protects the profits of drug companies at the expense of the public.

The initiative began with Bush's launch in April 2002 of the New Freedom Commission on Mental Health, which conducted a "comprehensive study of the United States mental health service delivery system."

The panel found that "despite their prevalence, mental disorders often go undiagnosed" and recommended comprehensive mental health screening for "consumers of all ages," including preschool children.

The commission said, "Each year, young children are expelled from preschools and childcare facilities for severely disruptive behaviors and emotional disorders."

Schools, the panel concluded, are in a "key position" to screen the 52 million students and 6 million adults who work at the schools.

The commission recommended that the screening be linked with "treatment and supports," including "state-of-the-art treatments" using "specific medications for specific conditions."

The Texas Medication Algorithm Project, or TMAP, was held up by the panel as a "model" medication treatment plan that "illustrates an evidence-based practice that results in better consumer outcomes."

The TMAP -- started in 1995 as an alliance of individuals from the pharmaceutical industry, the University of Texas and the mental health and corrections systems of Texas -- also was praised by the American Psychiatric Association, which called for increased funding to implement the overall plan.

But the Texas project sparked controversy when a Pennsylvania government employee revealed state officials with influence over the plan had received money and perks from drug companies who stand to gain from it.

Allen Jones, an employee of the Pennsylvania Office of the Inspector General says in his whistleblower report the "political/pharmaceutical alliance" that developed the Texas project, which promotes the use of newer, more expensive antidepressants and antipsychotic drugs, was behind the recommendations of the New Freedom Commission, which were "poised to consolidate the TMAP effort into a comprehensive national policy to treat mental illness with expensive, patented medications of questionable benefit and deadly side effects, and to force private insurers to pick up more of the tab."

Jones points out, according to the British Medical Journal, companies that helped start the Texas project are major contributors to Bush's election funds. Also, some members of the New Freedom Commission have served on advisory boards for these same companies, while others have direct ties to TMAP.

Eli Lilly, manufacturer of olanzapine, one of the drugs recommended in the plan, has multiple ties to the Bush administration, BMJ says. The elder President Bush was a member of Lilly's board of directors and President Bush appointed Lilly's chief executive officer, Sidney Taurel, to the Homeland Security Council.

Of Lilly's $1.6 million in political contributions in 2000, 82 percent went to Bush and the Republican Party.

Another critic, Robert Whitaker, journalist and author of "Mad in America," told the British Medical Journal that while increased screening "may seem defensible," it could also be seen as "fishing for customers."

Exorbitant spending on new drugs "robs from other forms of care such as job training and shelter program," he said.

However, a developer of the Texas project, Dr. Graham Emslie, defends screening.

"There are good data showing that if you identify kids at an earlier age who are aggressive, you can intervene ... and change their trajectory."


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To: Don Joe

Don't sweat the little punky pukes.

That vote test is one of the more despicable things around.

Little numbnuts.

But private voting is also on the way out. Databases like People locators on blueberrys hooked up to voting machines means voting lists that'll display your vote aren't too far off.

After all, if you don't have anything to hide......


961 posted on 06/23/2004 8:36:33 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Lazamataz
You are one of the very first people Bush should force-screen for mental illness.
Is this a new proposal that has been put forth by the Executive branch?

Gee, a clear reading of the authoratative material close to this subject reveals that this program, as proposed by a research/planning group/board has as its interest young school age children who exhibit behavioral problems on into puberty and then adulthood ...

Are you making yet another 'stretch' of the actual, bonafide, observable and penned truth in order to hyperbolicly arrive at some sort of 'argument' again?

I take it you've never worked (or visited for a period of time) at a so-called 'mental institution'; an institution where some number of today's mentally ill - sometimes treatable - are usually 'wharehoused'; and this long-range planning proposal seeks as its goal the return of these people to society/the community - with appropriate medicine/medical care AS OPPOSED TO virtual incarceration at a STATE HOSPITAL for the remainer of their lives here on earth.

See, I worked my way through school working at one of these kinds of institutions; I have more than just an "outsider's knowledge" of the conditions, the practices/what 'goes on' there ...

962 posted on 06/23/2004 8:40:29 AM PDT by _Jim ( <--- Ann C. and Rush L. speak on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: Corin Stormhands
Sigh...yes I read that and I don't want to spend another day debating this.

1) Those are recommendations TO the President.

From a commission he formed by executive order. He selected the members. The commssion's goals, and therefore its recommendations, are not likely to too alien from his own thinking.

2) I have yet to have anyone SHOW ME where the document specifically says screening is for EVERYONE and not just at risk populations.

Go look at #907 on this thread, where the commission recommends screening for "all students" in public schools, with parental consent. There are 52 million kids in our public schools, and most are not "at risk."

Speaking of which, where do you find anything in the docs that limits screening to "at risk" individuals?

3) I have yet to see where the President has ACCEPTED these recommendations.

Granted. However, the President's commission report follows the outline he sketched in his announcement of its formation.

Try Googling "mental health parity" "President Bush."

Can you show anywhere that the commission's recommendations contradict anything President Bush has ever said on the subject?

4) I have yet to see where the President OR The White House has said screening for EVERYONE.

So? Have you seen where they've said it's only for those "at risk?"

No, so we need to look further to glean where this proposal might be going. Go look at #907.


963 posted on 06/23/2004 8:50:54 AM PDT by Sabertooth (Mohammedanism is an evil empire.)
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To: Sabertooth

Believe what you have need to. But please don't ping me again.

Thank you.


964 posted on 06/23/2004 8:54:29 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?)
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To: Sabertooth

But before I go and you (or others) accuse me of running or conceding, the White House site report specifally addresses persons with disabilities. I don't know if the term "at risk" is used, but people with disabilities is.

I could be wrong. I hope I'm not. But I just don't see what BMJ and WND are saying.

That's all, and I'm done here.


965 posted on 06/23/2004 8:58:02 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?)
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To: Corin Stormhands
Believe what you have need to. But please don't ping me again.

Thank you.

If you don't want replies on a public thread, don't post. Simple, really.

Otherwise, when you complain that you haven't been shown some piece of information, then don't complain when someone directs you to where you can find it. The links aren't Kryptonite.


966 posted on 06/23/2004 9:01:32 AM PDT by Sabertooth (Mohammedanism is an evil empire.)
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To: Corin Stormhands



But before I go and you (or others) accuse me of running or conceding, the White House site report specifally addresses persons with disabilities. I don't know if the term "at risk" is used, but people with disabilities is.

Right, and I showed you where the report recomends screening millions of schoolkids to find the ones with the disabilities.


967 posted on 06/23/2004 9:04:42 AM PDT by Sabertooth (Mohammedanism is an evil empire.)
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To: Sabertooth

No, I read the links. And as far as I'm concerned, the point I have made still stands.

If I am later proven wrong, I will admit it. But I really don't want to spend more time on this today.


968 posted on 06/23/2004 9:05:27 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?)
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To: texasflower

I'm just pointing out that while the intention may be well and good, the implementation - through the government - is a recipe for abuse. Brain chemistry should not be subject to politics, nor regulated by law.


969 posted on 06/23/2004 9:15:04 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Islam delenda est)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
I'll be happy to read that post, Give me a nbumber.

#720

970 posted on 06/23/2004 9:35:18 AM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
Unless you fit that catagory, I do not hate you.

I'm glad you don't hate me. You're really a pretty nice guy.

971 posted on 06/23/2004 9:38:06 AM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
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To: Don Joe
You are no "brother" in the Lord. Not after your comments written on your thoughts about God. My post about God and faith were to another poster and you choose to respond in ugliness. I cast my pearls before swine; I should not have allowed that to happen. You are childish and arrogant along with being manipulative. It's the plain truth about you Don Joe.

I sincerely apologized for calling you a name and I stand by that apology. The apology does not mean that I cannot state facts and joke around with others. It is true you only listen to yourself and your own opinions. You are self-absorbed and hysterical. There isn't one thing I wrote, after I made my apology, that wasn't obvious truth to most folks on this thread. You wrote and continue to write like you are 10 years old and in need a mommy's dicipline. You have a real problem with trying to manipulate others. You are as Satan himself trying to conjure up some kind of guilt in me because of a few cracks I made with others. Sorry pal, it ain't gonna happen. How corrupt and feeble of you!

Obviously you are deluded into thinking that you contribute something of value around here when the fact is you are divisive and ill-informed.

Go back and read some of the arrogant, childish, and self-righteous things you wrote to others.

Take the plank out of your own eye before trying to remove the speck out of mine.
I am finished having any further discussions with you. You just are not worth my time or effort.

972 posted on 06/23/2004 1:44:34 PM PDT by Boxsford
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To: Sabertooth
re: parental consent: I have a strong suspicion that "consent" will eventually mean "we will do this unless you explicitly opt out by filling in a form that we will have your child bring to you (and which he will neglect to give you)"

Once testing positive for "mental health" problem means that the school gets extra money for treatment (and this is already the case), then "parental consent" will only be given lip service

973 posted on 06/23/2004 3:01:22 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (That which does not kill me had better be able to run away damn fast.)
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To: thoughtomator
What do you do when some Leftist teacher has your kid medicated because he refuses to believe in global warming hysteria?

I very much believe that there are people in the education system who are so politically committed to the Left, that they would stoop to destroying a bright Conservative kid that shows signs of growing up to be a societal leader. The majority would not -- but how many school system personnel will your kid come into contact with over the course of 12-13 years of public education? It only takes one

974 posted on 06/23/2004 3:13:13 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (That which does not kill me had better be able to run away damn fast.)
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To: texasflower
It is available NOW to every American. Pick out a doctor or therapist and call to make an appointment.

However the Federal Government via the power and authority granted it has NO authority to be involved in these health issues of the general public. Being a law-abiding and respecting person threfore what you are asking for is a Constitutional Amendment that would authorize the Federal Government to "provide for health care to every citizen". . Right?

If not, why then you favor tyranny. A friendly tyrrany -- bua an unaccountable one, restrained by nothing, able to do what it pleases.

975 posted on 06/23/2004 3:22:09 PM PDT by bvw
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To: TigersEye

Thank you kindly.


976 posted on 06/23/2004 3:38:04 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Let Kerry be Kerry -what the hell else is he good for? -but let Bush be President.)
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To: isom35
what will bush do to those who dont pass the screening?

I'm sure he'll find some way to spend even more money that the government doesn't have...

977 posted on 06/23/2004 3:49:47 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Meatwad make the money see; Meatwad get the honeys, G.)
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To: California Patriot
Any thought of not voting for Bush on the basis of this trivial issue (or any other issue) is both irresponsible and suicidal.

One issue may indeed be trivial, but over the past 3.5 years, a lot of issues have accumulated. If you're a Bush campaigner, you have your work cut out for you.

978 posted on 06/23/2004 3:52:40 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Meatwad make the money see; Meatwad get the honeys, G.)
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To: kcvl

As nice-sounding and well-intended as this program may be, the Constitution does not authorize any branch of the federal government to take up this issue. Properly medicated mentally-ill people are indeed better able to function in a free society, so maybe Congress could take the power to manage one's mental state up as a Constitutional amendment. However, I'm sure the states are aware of this problem, so I'm not sure that there's even a need for that.


979 posted on 06/23/2004 4:00:06 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Meatwad make the money see; Meatwad get the honeys, G.)
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To: everyone

You may be right about the level of disaffection among the right (a group among whom I certainly number myself). But a month ago, in the middle of an even worse period for the president, I asked one of my Republican clubs to join me in the following pledge: Not to say anything negative about President Bush, his policies, or his prospects for re-election until after Nov. 2. While I haven't kept to this pledge perfectly, I have honored its spirit as best I can: that I will not contribute to the giant sucking sound of contempt for Bush. The left has made it large enough; I don't want to make it larger.

You are absolutely right that "a lot of issues have accumulated." Breaking my promise very briefly for the sake of private discussion, I'll admit that Bush is a weak and poor representative or promoter of the conservative philosophy. Indeed, I doubt that he really understands it.

That said, I do think that Bush's integrity, his manifest patriotism, and his willing to stick with a politically risky course of action in the War on Terror (i.e., overthrowing Saddam and maintaining troops there while the bad guys remain a threat) will eventually lead the necessary 90 percent of Republicans to vote for him. If they do, we'll all have escaped what would be the nightmare of a Kerry presidency -- under which even more "issues would accumulate," as I'm sure you agree.

If Kerry does win, I suspect that it won't be long before you wish that you, too, were a "Bush campaigner."


980 posted on 06/23/2004 4:21:58 PM PDT by California Patriot (California Patriot)
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