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Fox News Alert - Pledge case dismissed by USSC
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Posted on 06/14/2004 7:25:52 AM PDT by I still care

Just a breaking news bar - the court has thrown out Newdows case on a technicality. Score one for the pledge.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: churchandstate; flagday; lawsuit; newdow; pledge; pledgeofallegiance; pledgeofallegience; prayerlist; undergod
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To: I still care

HOO-RAY!


61 posted on 06/14/2004 8:01:38 AM PDT by steveo (RWR RIP)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

"Does that mean he doesn't pass go, and collect a million dollars?

I think all this started when his ex wife became a born again Christian."

They were never married. The short version of the story is:

-Christian girl has crisis of faith
-Has fling with athiest doctor
-learns she is pregnant/regains her faith
-raises daughter with two parents with RADICALLY different world views





63 posted on 06/14/2004 8:02:29 AM PDT by GreenLanternCorps (Bush/Cheney '04 - Win one for the Gipper!!!)
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To: Torie

I'm getting good at this for an amateur. Exactly my prediciton.


64 posted on 06/14/2004 8:02:35 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Gutless. This settles nothing. In my opinion, they just couldn't rule because they didn't want to look like fools, yet to be consistent with past rulings, they would have had to rule "Under God" unconsitutional. This was the chicken way out.

No, the first question that the court always asks is whether the party bringing suit has the standing to do so. If the answer is no, the merits of the case become wholly irrelevant.

65 posted on 06/14/2004 8:04:30 AM PDT by Modernman ("I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members" -Groucho Marx)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

They're not supposed to have guts. They're paid to make sure the law is being executed properly, throwing a case out because the plaintiff has no legal standing to bring suit was the right thing to do from day one.


66 posted on 06/14/2004 8:06:34 AM PDT by discostu (Brick urgently required, must be thick and well kept)
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To: alisasny
I hope the technicallity is that the child has no problem saying under God and does so willingly.

If he had standing to sue, her feelings would have been immaterial.

67 posted on 06/14/2004 8:07:17 AM PDT by Modernman ("I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members" -Groucho Marx)
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To: Landru
The a-hole will be back to get those two words removed as sure as God made little green apples.

It won't be him, unless he gets custody of his daughter. It can be someobody else who does have custody of their kid, however.

SCOTUS did the right thing here. Whatever the merits of this case, this guy had no standing to sue.

I don't think this is the last we'll be hearing of this issue, though.

68 posted on 06/14/2004 8:10:42 AM PDT by Modernman ("I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members" -Groucho Marx)
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To: jriemer; Graymatter; I still care

Not only is today Flag Day, but it's the 50th anniversary of the pasing of the law to put "under God" in the pledge (June 14, 1954)!


69 posted on 06/14/2004 8:10:46 AM PDT by ELS
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To: I still care

BTTT


70 posted on 06/14/2004 8:12:04 AM PDT by hattend (Rest in Peace, President Reagan.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
There are plenty of times they should throw things out on technicalities yet choose not to because they can't resist comment

Example, please. The only reason this case got as far as it did was because the 9th Circuit was being its usual activist self. Even the majority of liberal judges in most other circuits would have probably thrown this case out for lack of standing.

71 posted on 06/14/2004 8:13:37 AM PDT by Modernman ("I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members" -Groucho Marx)
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To: cardinal4
How can they? The USSC is the end of the line, who will they appeal to? The UN?

SCOTUS didn't rule that the Pledge is constitutional- they just ruled that Newdow had no standing to challenge its constitutionality.

72 posted on 06/14/2004 8:15:01 AM PDT by Modernman ("I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members" -Groucho Marx)
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To: ELS
Not only is today Flag Day, but it's the 50th anniversary of the pasing of the law to put "under God" in the pledge (June 14, 1954)!

Interesting how we won World War II with a generation of people who had never said "Under God" in the Pledge.

And, lets, see, the first generation of kids to say "Under God" in the pledge went to college and became young adults in....the 60s.

73 posted on 06/14/2004 8:15:07 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

That's part of the definition of an activist court. If they should throw out a case but rule on it anyway then they are legislating not adjudicating. Nobody has respect for most of them anymore, but this time they got it right.


74 posted on 06/14/2004 8:16:33 AM PDT by discostu (Brick urgently required, must be thick and well kept)
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To: I still care

Maybe it's just me, but this decision leaves me wondering why the atheists who are intent on eliminating the phrase "under God" from the pledge would have found a better plaintiff for this case than someone like Newdow whose standing was in question right from the start.


75 posted on 06/14/2004 8:17:06 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium . . . sed ego sum homo indomitus")
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To: I still care; Alamo-Girl; onyx; ALOHA RONNIE; SpookBrat; Republican Wildcat; Howlin; ...
Dear Mr. Newdow: Crawl back under your rock now .....

Fox News Alert - Pledge case dismissed by USSC

Supreme Court Dismisses Pledge Case on Technicality

Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:38 AM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court dismissed on Monday a constitutional challenge to the words "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance recited by schoolchildren, without deciding the key church-state issue.

The justices ruled that California atheist Michael Newdow lacked the legal right to bring the challenge in the first place. "We conclude that Newdow lacks standing," Justice John Paul Stevens declared in the opinion. [Meek note here: His wife has custody of the child is the reason, is what FOX News is reporting].

The ruling came down on the 50th anniversary of the addition of the words "under God" to the pledge. Congress adopted the June 14, 1954, law in an effort to distinguish America's religious values and heritage from those of communism, which is atheistic.



Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my General Interest ping list!. . .don't be shy.


76 posted on 06/14/2004 8:17:19 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Call me the Will Rogers voter: I never met a Democrat I didn't like - to vote OUT OF POWER !)
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To: blanknoone

"Nevermind the 'under God' that was added later, the pledge itself was written by a socialist to advance a socialist agenda."

Shhhh, we're not suppose to mention that, everyone knows the pledge was written by God.


77 posted on 06/14/2004 8:21:06 AM PDT by Kerberos (Groups are inherently more immoral than individuals.)
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To: I still care

The Constitution triumphs over irrationality.

What was the technicality? I'm guessing they found Newdow couldn't show injury, since his daughter is a Christian.

78 posted on 06/14/2004 8:22:27 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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To: I still care; All

Unfiortunately, the fact that this case was dismissed on a technicality will only encourage another Newdow out there to file a suite, claiming the Pledge is unconstitutional.

I'm glad it was dismissed...but this is only a temporary victory.


79 posted on 06/14/2004 8:25:11 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: mlo

It does not immediately follow that abortion is among the unenumerated rights spoken of in the 9th Amendment. The very question at hand is whether abortion is among the unenumerated rights, so the 9th Amendment merely returns us to the original issue.


80 posted on 06/14/2004 8:26:23 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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