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Transgender agenda in Shrek 2?
Traditional Values Coalition ^

Posted on 06/12/2004 1:10:44 PM PDT by Cracker72

TVC Weekly News: Parents Beware: 'Shrek 2' Features Transgenderism And Crossdressing Themes

Summary: The DreamWorks' animated film, "Shrek 2," is billed as harmless entertainment but contains subtle sexual messages.

Parents who are thinking about taking their children to see "Shrek 2," may wish to consider the following: The movie features a male-to-female transgender (in transition) as an evil bartender. The character has five o'clock shadow, wears a dress and has female breasts. It is clear that he is a she-male. His voice is that of talk show host Larry King.

During a dance scene at the end of the movie, this transgendered man expresses sexual desire for Prince Charming, jumps on him, and both tumble to the floor.

In another scene in the movie, Shrek and Donkey need to be rescued from a dungeon where they are chained against the wall. The rescue is conducted by Pinocchio who is asked to lie so his nose will grow long enough for one of the smaller cartoon characters to use it as a bridge to reach Shrek and Donkey. Donkey encourages him to lie about something and suggests he lie about wearing women's underwear. When he denies wearing women's underwear, his nose begins to grow.

An earlier scene in the movie features a wolf dressed in grandma's clothing and reading a book when Prince Charming encounters him. Later, one of the characters refers to the wolf's gender confusion.

TVC's report, "A Gender Identity Disorder Goes Mainstream," explains the transgender agenda and the effort to deconstruct the biological reality of male and female. DreamWorks is helping in this effort by promoting cross dressing and transgenderism in this animated film.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: catholiclist; crossdressing; genderiddisorder; homosexualagenda; movies; prisoners; shrek; shrek2; transgender; tvc
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To: longtermmemmory
The crossdresser shouldhave given shrek an R just for that.

Excuse me, but how do we know it was a cross-dresser? Some females have facial hair as they age, haven't we all seen the Halloween caracature of the witch with the hairs coming out of warts? And getting Larry King's gravelly voice to do the Ugly Stepsister was no more of a gender-bender than getting Nancy Cartwright to do the voice of Bart Simpson. You're just going for an effect, and the idea was to make the Ugly Stepsister look ugly and sound ugly!

I can at least see the point about Pinocchio with the women's underwear looking like a bit of cross dressing, but in my opinion, it was mostly trying to make fun of thong underwear, which is pretty silly stuff, when you think about it. Every little boy has been told not to wear his sister's underwear, and vice-versa, so to have a puppet that is carved to resemble a boy wearing female undergarments that are silly to begin with, is just designed to be funny.

21 posted on 06/12/2004 3:48:09 PM PDT by hunter112
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To: poink

Children are smarter than you think. They won't get it in theater. You're probably right about that. But what about when mom and dad bring the DVD home and the little tots watch it over and over as a substitute babysitter? It is just not appropriate, and our culture is to adult self-gratifying to even protest (for the most part). I think it's sad.


22 posted on 06/12/2004 4:04:27 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: All

I saw Shrek 2 last weekend and I must admit it did seem to subtly promote a pro-gay agenda. There were two characters that especially seemed gay - Kyle the driver and the clerk at the perfume factory. The she-male disturbed me too.


23 posted on 06/12/2004 4:04:59 PM PDT by ClarenceThomasfan ( We want a Bush landslide in November!!!)
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To: Lazamataz
Some people have entirely too much time on their hands.

Agree completely. Do gays and transgenders have an agenda, and does that agenda appear in the media and films?- yes. But is it in THIS film?. He's seeing G/L/TG bogeymen behind every bush. Like the mismatch between a womans appearance and a masculine voice has never been seen before in comedy. Ever heard of monty python?, or flip wilson, or dame edna?

CC

24 posted on 06/12/2004 4:10:56 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (RWR 1911 - 2004 ,requiescat in pacem, Ronaldus Magnus)
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To: Cracker72

Bugs Bunny used to get dressed up to marry Elmer Fudd. I just never considered it a transgender issue. Just something silly.


25 posted on 06/12/2004 4:11:15 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: poink

I didn't say anything about banning anything. I was just commenting on the self-centerness of parents and child caregivers who can't be bothered with caring about content anymore.


27 posted on 06/12/2004 4:15:47 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: Cracker72

I thought we couldn't post articles from The Onion ?


28 posted on 06/12/2004 4:17:13 PM PDT by I_killed_kenny
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To: HungarianGypsy

Bugs Bunny was in a disguise. It was totally different.


29 posted on 06/12/2004 4:21:47 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: Cracker72

Are these the same people who saw Satan in the clouds of "The Lion King" movie? Sometimes I think these people must inadvertently be putting the wrong kind of mushrooms on their hamburgers. Or maybe they are getting bad ice cubes in their drinks.


30 posted on 06/12/2004 4:25:19 PM PDT by SamAdams76 ("Abortion is advocated only by persons who have themselves been born" - Ronald Reagan.)
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To: longtermmemmory

Depends on context. For Shrek II, imo -- PG-13, at least. Maybe R. To me, some of the fairy godmother scenes were beyond the limit.


31 posted on 06/12/2004 4:35:28 PM PDT by bvw
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To: poink

Some of it was neither abstract nor "adult innuendos". IIRC, cross-dressing was said to be okay -- good even.


32 posted on 06/12/2004 4:37:58 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
For example ... in the scene where Dorothy first encounters the Scarecrow, he says "You can go this way or that way, or both ways."

Really??? Does it really mean bisexuality? I never heard that.

33 posted on 06/12/2004 4:45:45 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ

You see? It was very subtle. There's more, but I've no desire to go watch the movie again to list them.


34 posted on 06/12/2004 4:50:22 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Lazamataz
I miss the good ole days when this kind of stuff did not happen.


35 posted on 06/12/2004 4:52:13 PM PDT by Bluntpoint
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To: Bluntpoint

Was that movie geared towards 6-year-olds? I don't think so. Hey, whatever your conscience can take. By all means, poke fun of those who worry that joking about Pinnochio wearing women's thong underwear might not be appropriate humor for kindergarteners. As long as it eases your conscience, that's all that matters.


36 posted on 06/12/2004 6:08:12 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: Cracker72

1 - The bartender wasn't a transgender...she was Cinderella's Ugly Step-Sister. Which is why she kissed Prince Charming at the end.

2 - Pinocchio was wearing ladies underwear, but he was laughed at and picked on because of it.

IMO - this isn't something to get worked up over. Disney's Lilo & Stitch series on Disney Channel has a blatantly gay alien. That sh!t bothers me.

Shrek 2 was hysterical.


37 posted on 06/12/2004 6:19:55 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("A sword day! A red day, 'ere the sun rises!")
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Was that movie geared towards 6-year-olds? I don't think so.

Well, under the Hayes Office, which had power in 1959, movies exhibited in the U.S. were required to conform to standards slightly looser than "G", but more stringent than "PG", so no films were supposed to be particularly unsuitable for children. For men to dress up as women to disguise themselves was thus apparently considered less objectionable than for a man and woman to have a single kiss last more than 3 seconds (unless the man was a soldier or sailor departing for The War--some of those film kisses were allowed to last a lot longer).

BTW, note that cross-dressing for theatrical or humorous purposes goes back a long time, and was not considered to have anything to do with sexual deviancy.

38 posted on 06/13/2004 1:47:36 PM PDT by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: supercat

That's nice. Only, we are talking about a familiar fictional character dressed in WOMEN'S THONG UNDERWEAR. We are also talking about a male dressed as a women who drools all over another man. This for the preschool and grade school crowd. I think it's inappropriate. Oh yeah...and some of the female characters were wanting to see Shrek naked and commented on his tight butt. Relate that back to the good old days.


39 posted on 06/13/2004 2:27:41 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Oh yeah...and some of the female characters were wanting to see Shrek naked and commented on his tight butt. Relate that back to the good old days.

Ah, but they never had any physical contact with Shrek. OTOH, Bugs Bunny physically French-kissed Elmer Fudd while dressed in drag several times. I saw it on TV.

Ain't I A Stinka?

40 posted on 06/13/2004 2:33:32 PM PDT by asgardshill
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