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Was Franklin D. Roosevelt a Good President?
WND.com ^ | 06-08-04 | Farah, Joseph

Posted on 06/08/2004 6:19:25 AM PDT by Theodore R.

Was Roosevelt a good president?

Posted: June 8, 2004 1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

Condoleeza Rice said in a newspaper interview last week that President Bush will some day rank in leadership history alongside Franklin D. Roosevelt and Winston Churchill.

Which begs the question: Was Roosevelt a good president?

If Roosevelt is George W. Bush's model for leadership, his first term begins to make sense.

Roosevelt led the nation through World War II and certainly contributed to the defeat of Nazi Germany and imperial Japan – for which we should all be thankful.

However, Roosevelt also arguably presided over the creation of more unconstitutional domestic action by the federal government than any of his modern predecessors. As such, he remains the hero of modern-day socialists and an icon for today's Democratic Party extremists.

Is that what Bush wants to be remembered for?

If so, he must give himself extremely high marks. Yes, he has ably led the nation in the war on terrorism. But his administration has also given us unprecedented domestic spending increases.

Perhaps Rice and Bush should also be reminded that while Churchill provided great leadership of the United Kingdom in World War II, he was quickly turned out of office at the war's conclusion.

My guess is Bush will be turned out of office long before American achieves a victory in the war on terrorism. So, perhaps there is some validity to that comparison as well.

Notice that Rice did not compare Bush to a more recent popular Republican, two-term president – Ronald Reagan. Perhaps she understood that such a comparison would be laughable to too many Americans – especially those Bush still hopes to win over before Election Day.

"Statesmanship has to be judged first and foremost by whether you recognize historic opportunities and seize them," Rice said in an interview with Cox Newspapers.

I would agree. But I would not agree that Bush has met the challenge.

He came into office with Republicans controlling the House of Representatives and Senate. He saw that control strengthened in mid-term elections in 2002. Yet he governed like a Democrat – expanding spending for the Department of Education and other agencies the GOP once swore to eliminate.

"When you think of statesmen, you think of people who seized historic opportunities to change the world for the better, people like Roosevelt, people like Churchill, and people like Truman, who understood the challenges of communism. And this president has been an agent of change for the better – historic change for the better," said Rice.

Roosevelt and Truman understood the challenges of communism? Who does she think gave us Alger Hiss? And who does she think sold Chiang Kai-Shek down the Yangtze River?

Until I read this interview, I had an extraordinary amount of respect for Rice's intellectual achievements and her understanding of history. No longer. But it gets worse.

It was Bush, she said, who first recognized "that it was time to stop mumbling about the need for a Palestinian state" and spoke out in favor of a two-state solution to the decades-old Arab-Israeli conflict.

Indeed he did – one of the foreign policy tragedies of his administration. In fact, he has retreated from that position recently, suggesting there was no longer any rush to create a Palestinian state. And why should we want to create a new Middle East state that was founded on terrorism? Why should we support a state whose official policy is "no Jews allowed"? Why should we want to continue to do the same thing over and over again and expect different results?

Does Rice really believe all she said in this interview? Or is she just being a good political soldier? It's hard to know for sure.

But now I know why the Bush administration has achieved so little in four years. Apparently, from the get-go, it never had the right goals.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: bush; churchill; communism; condirice; democrats; fdr; fdrwasasocialist; hst; nazism; republican; terrorism
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1 posted on 06/08/2004 6:19:27 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.

The answer to the main question - NO!


2 posted on 06/08/2004 6:21:30 AM PDT by 7thson (I think it takes a big dog to weigh a hundred pounds!)
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To: Theodore R.

FDR was the worst president we ever had.
It was his administration that set up all the socialist/communist programs that are sucking money from the tax payers to this day.

I believe the guy was a commie.


3 posted on 06/08/2004 6:21:43 AM PDT by Chewbacca (There is a place in this world for all of God's creatures.....right next to the mashed potatoes.)
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To: Theodore R.

No..


4 posted on 06/08/2004 6:22:21 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com - The next World War)
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To: Theodore R.

Farah needs to get over his hatred of Bush. He brings up some legitimate points but greatly overstates his case and ignores many of relevant points.


5 posted on 06/08/2004 6:23:58 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Theodore R.
Was Franklin D. Roosevelt a Good President?

No.

6 posted on 06/08/2004 6:24:40 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium . . . sed ego sum homo indomitus")
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To: Theodore R.

In a word: No.


7 posted on 06/08/2004 6:26:31 AM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: 7thson

Just my two cents. I don't want to slam FDR, as many here DO regard him highly. Every other issue aside, I would rank Reagan ahead simply because he ended the Cold War, which FDR did his best to help the Soviet Union begin.


8 posted on 06/08/2004 6:26:59 AM PDT by Types_with_Fist (God Bless Ronald Reagan!)
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To: Theodore R.

A leader can only be judged in the context of time. FDR was right for the time but wrong for today. I believe that many of the programs he set up to address The Great Depression were intended to be temporary.

I judge FDR to be the best and worst on any given issue. Carter has the distinct "Worst Overall" title.


9 posted on 06/08/2004 6:27:44 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Everything that really matters I learned from a song when I was 3. Jesus Loves Me!)
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To: Theodore R.



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10 posted on 06/08/2004 6:27:48 AM PDT by counterpunch (<-CLICK HERE for my CARTOONS)
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To: Theodore R.
Was Franklin D. Roosevelt a Good President?


Hmm, a trick question. Ok I'll play.....

For the USA and world freedom - a resounding NO

For Marxism & Stalinist Despots - YES

11 posted on 06/08/2004 6:31:47 AM PDT by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. -- Gen G. Patton Jr)
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To: Chewbacca

I agree. Read "Treason" by Ann Coulter. If Roosevelt wasn't a supporter of Joe Stalin, I'll eat my hat.

He thought Uncle Joe was the best thing Russia ever had - the man who murdered more people than Hitler than did.

Also, I think Roosevelt deliberately engineered the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor and was responsible for all those dead Americans because he wanted a reason to enter the war after having promised America to keep us out of it.


If I'm not mistaken, Roosevelt was Secretary of the Navy during WW1 and helped engineer the successful German attack on the Lusitania, with the connivance of Churchill, in order to accomplish the same thing he did at Pearl Harbor in WW2.

Roosevelt always envied his relative and great American Teddy Roosevelt. He was a poor excuse for Teddy Roosevelt in every way.


12 posted on 06/08/2004 6:33:47 AM PDT by ZULU (They weree)
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To: Theodore R.

I don't think FDR was great in terms of policy, but he exuded some needed confidence for his first term. And he may have been a safety valve against the country going even further left out of despair. That said, his legacy of paternal government is a burden. I need to read more about him, hopefully from a concise, historical point of view.


13 posted on 06/08/2004 6:33:50 AM PDT by Puddleglum (Defy the media elite - vote Bush in 2004!)
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To: Theodore R.
Two things

He deferred entirely too much to his wife, (an unelected individual)

He sent Stillwell to Asia and cast him to the wolves with America's hide bound and debilitating 'Europe First' policy in WWII. I always wonder how a more realistic policy with China in WWII would have affected the current state of affairs there. Also: He was too much of a populist and played to the crowd TOO much.
14 posted on 06/08/2004 6:34:28 AM PDT by SMARTY
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To: Theodore R.

You gotta give FDR credit for the one good decision he made: developing the atom bomb.


15 posted on 06/08/2004 6:36:10 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (God bless Ronald Reagan!)
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To: Theodore R.
I'll add my NO to the chorus.
16 posted on 06/08/2004 6:36:11 AM PDT by pt17
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To: Conspiracy Guy
I believe that many of the programs he set up to address The Great Depression were intended to be temporary.

"Temporary government program," an oxymoron.

17 posted on 06/08/2004 6:37:15 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Theodore R.
"......Was Franklin D. Roosevelt a Good President?......"

No. One of the things he is supposedly remembered for - getting us out of the Depression, he failed miserably at. It took a world war to get the economy going again, and he had been on the job 8 years by that point in time. In addition, in trying to pull us out of the Depression he abrogated and nullified many of the principal structures of our system of government and economy, unleashing a collectivist virus that, to this day, chronically infects us.

.............Besides, he couldn't keep that damned wife of his shut up.

18 posted on 06/08/2004 6:39:04 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Theodore R.

he threw japanese in camps, tried to load the supreme court w/ extra leftists and gave away eastern europe to russia


19 posted on 06/08/2004 6:39:21 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it)
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To: InvisibleChurch

he threw japanese in camps

But don't Japanese Americans still pay total fealty to the Democrat Party and hold FDR and HST in the highest rating?


20 posted on 06/08/2004 6:41:45 AM PDT by Theodore R. (When will they ever learn?)
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