Thousands of protesters took to the sunny streets of downtown San Francisco on Saturday, hoping to turn public outrage over prisoner abuse in Iraq into demands to withdraw U.S. troops. Posted on 06/06/2004 9:33:03 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
Anti-war protesters clash with pro-Israel confreres
Thousands march down Market, want troops out of Iraq
Thousands of protesters took to the sunny streets of downtown San Francisco on Saturday, hoping to turn public outrage over prisoner abuse in Iraq into demands to withdraw U.S. troops.
A crowd estimated at 8,000 to 10,000 by both police and protest organizers gathered at United Nations Plaza, then marched down Market Street around noon to Justin Herman Plaza, where they listened to speakers demand an end to the U.S. military presence in Iraq.
As they neared the Embarcadero, the protesters ran into about 500 pro- Israel demonstrators, waving Israeli and American flags, and protesting what they see as an anti-Israel message from the anti-war protests.
The opposing groups started out at opposite ends of the walkway between the foot of Market Street and the Embarcadero, but verbal exchanges became increasingly heated as the afternoon wore on, and police were forced to step in and keep the groups apart.
The pro-Israel group that protested Saturday's protest was formed about a month ago as a response to what Israel supporters say is an anti-Israel stance presented during International ANSWER rallies and protests. Many in Saturday's march carried pro-Palestine and anti-Israel signs. Some said they oppose Israel's treatment of the Palestinians.
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The left has been on the "poor poor Palestinian" thingy for some time now. They actually read so little that they believe it. Having just finished "The Haj" I see quite a different perspective.
As for Reagan's passing, (which is a blessing in my opinion), the left can't even recognize a true leader and hero when they see one. Very much not enlightened or elite.
here's a link to my rundown on the days events:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1148613/posts?page=1
On a few website bulletin boards, I have used the term PEACE NAZI to describe the peace movement in general, and one person asked me for an explanation as to what the term means and why I say it. Here is my answer:
It is intentionally derogatory, and I use it because I believe it has to be said.
It has to do with the foundation of the PEACE movement in the US and abroad and their Communist foundation, and how the majority of the signs held and slogans chanted are not about peace or genuine concern for the people of two warring countries, it is about the anti-American attitudes and the violence-inducing signs and slogans calling for violence against American Troops and President Bush.
Carrying signs calling on troops to kill their officers, to bomb Texas, for Bush to choke on a pretzel and die, for troops to shoot their officers, signs that call for communist revolution, starting fights with people who disagree with you while carrying a peace sign, trying to steal my money in Boston while carrying a peace sign and then telling me because you were shamed into giving back the money that means you are ok after all...
Things like that.
I will NOT stop using it. It is intended to make the peace protestor think.
After all the horrors we found in Iraq, you should all be thankful we went in and invaded to remove that madman. Yet, the mantra has changed, it is now against occupation! Still, not one PEACE NAZI has apologized and admitted we were right. All they do is complain that a people that were under slavery for 30 years have gone looting, and who do they blame? Why the US!! We did nothing to stop it! Maybe because we stayed out of the crowd because the PEACE NAZIS would have complained we didn’t let them vent their anger??
(As a side note, people who are now called PEACE NAZIS didn’t call on the LAPD or Federal Troops to stop the LA riots after the Rodney King riots, did they? They told us all to step back and let them vent their anger, yet all of a sudden, we are supposed to go in and use force to stop rioters in Iraq?)
We never intended to occupy a country like SYRIA has the last 20 years, and where are the PEACE NAZIS and their signs calling on SYRIA to leave Lebanon? They are non existent. The Syrians killed tens of thousands, chasing little children into bedrooms and shooting them point blank.
Did you know there was a Christian Community in Beirut before 1985? Now, they are almost either all killed or fled from the Syrian backed Junta, and not a peep from the PEACE NAZIS, only against American forces sent to Beirut to keep peace. Why arent the PEACE NAZIS arguing for the return of the Christian Community back to Beirut where they lived for 2 Millennium?
In fact, there is not a single country that we ever went to war with that we stayed as the government power for more than 10 years! We always returned it to the people.
And that brings up another point: PEACE NAZIS are NOT against war, they are against wars that the US is engaged in to overthrow pro-Communist or PRO-radical Islamic regimes or PRO-Maoist/PRO-Stalinist regimes.
My point here, is simple: These COMMIES are not for peace. If they were, they would have been screaming about Clinton killing innocents to keep his sexual scandals off the tv,
they would have been screaming for the Hutus and Tutsis to make peace,
they would have been screaming for that madman Saddam to stop killing Kurds or Iranians,
they would have been screaming for the Turks to stop killing Kurds or Greeks,
they would have been screaming for the Chinese to stop killing Vietnamese in 1982,
they would have been screaming for the Angolan Army to stop killing with the help of the Cuban Army in the 1980's,
they would have been screaming for the Muslims to stop killing Christians in Indonesia
They would have been screaming for the Sudanese to stop the torture and slave trade which continues today
They would have been screaming when the Syrians invaded Lebanon in 1985
They would have been screaming when Pol Pot started a genocide in 1975,
They would be screaming now about Mugabe killing all the white farmers in Africa in Zimbabwe
They would have been screaming at the murders caused by the African National Congress and their necklacing of prisoners and at Winnie Mandela who was convicted of murder, yet the communists are silent
They would have been screaming about Tiananmen Square, but they are silent.
They would have been screaming about the repression in Cuba and why so many people have chosen to flee in rickety little boats, but instead they lionize that dictator, Castro
They would have been screaming about the invasion of South Vietnam where the north started a genocide campaign in direct violation of the Paris Peace Accords of 1973 and caused over 2 million Vietnamese to flee in little boats that got picked up by ships like mine in 1981
They would be screaming at the Palestinians for their suicide bombings that intentionally target innocent school age children
Except, the only time they scream is when the US is at war against a tyrant who is support by Russia.
And since NAZI is one of the most vile insults you can give someone in our last two generations, I call them PEACE NAZIS, for they are not for peace, they are for war, they are for the overthrow of my country and into communism and anarchy, and they are a violent bunch who base their foundation on lies and the telling of lies and the repeating of lies.
You just never know in San Francisco...
And lets not forget how the Commies came out in the streets of New York after "The Great Depression"
Good graphic, but it doesn't fit the title, as the map shows a lot of non-Arab countries.
Better: "END THE UNJUST JEWISH OCCUPATION OF MUSLIM LAND"
Sounds good to me. All I know is they are giant hypocrites. None of them cared one whit about the Serbs we killed.
It's hard to believe there were 5000 people in the march, and you are so right about the speakers stand. A very sparse crowd when the march was over, I am thinking some of the brain dead (almost hopefully) useful idiot followers are getting a clue.
Let's hope so.
Here is some proof of their numbers:
And yea the only booths with lines had food at them...
Not like this one:
To the right in the above picture we can see they still support Cop Killers.
Take a closer look, and read what the post says closely.
If you do I think you will see that the "Arab Land" that is sardonically mentioned is the Country of Israel.
The map is saying the Israeli's should do what the Palestinians want, and give up their "enormous" tiny sliver of land to the Arabs.
After all that is all the Palestinians and Arafat and the Arab Nations (And Iran and Egypt and Turkey and other non-Arab nations) want.
It's not much to ask.
Better: "END THE UNJUST JEWISH OCCUPATION OF MUSLIM LAND"
Now you are right there. If the Muslims even SET FOOT on any land they believe it is theirs and all infidels have to be converted or killed.
Oops, they are here in The United States of America...so what do you think...because that makes this country Muslim Land...Should we "END THE UNJUST AMERICAN OCCUPATION OF MUSLIM LAND?"
It's a major accomplishment to get the SF Comical to even mention a counter-protest. Also saw coverage on KPIX-5.
But I did see our old friend there:
:>)
Yet another thread on this topic:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1148899/posts?page=2
Excellent! :-)
I miss seeing my buddy on-line :-(
I didn't see that angle - good point. But I still think my title fits the map better.
The countries shown all oppose Israel, but have "Muslim" as a common denominator, not "Arab.
Oops, they are here in The United States of America...so what do you think...because that makes this country Muslim Land...Should we "END THE UNJUST AMERICAN OCCUPATION OF MUSLIM LAND?"
No. Good to think of that, and point out the threat.
Well, I respectfully disagree with you.
That post is talking about the country of Israel. And the implication is that the the ones that want to push Israel into the sea are ARABS.
And they want the land of Israel.
And being as about 99% of Arabs are Muslim, your comment is kind of a moot point.
And all the non-Arab states like Iran, Pakistan, and Afghanistan.
"Muslim" fits the map better than "Arab".
To muslims, yes.
But I think the reason the graphic refers to Israel as "Arab Land" is that all the countries you see on the map consider Israel to ALL belong to the Palestinians.
At least until the unifying Caliphilate arrives.
Most Palestinians are Muslim Arabs. Heck, many Arab countries don't even show Israel on their maps!
Perhaps they call it "Zionist Occupation Force", or similar.
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