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Jayna Davis: OKC and WTC Bombers Met in Philippines
NewsMax ^ | 5/27/04 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 05/27/2004 6:54:18 PM PDT by wagglebee

Oklahoma City bomber Terry Nichols met with World Trade Center bomber Ramzi Yousef in the Philippines before he and Timothy McVeigh carried out their plot, investigative reporter Jayna Davis said Wednesday.

"Terry Nichols and Ramzi Yousef met personally in the Philippines on the island of Mindanao in the early 1990s to discuss, of all things, bombmaking," Davis told ABC Radio Network host John Batchelor.

On Wednesday, an Oklahoma jury returned a 161 count murder verdict against Nichols. He is expected to face the death penalty. But the bizarre Yousef-Nichols tie-in did not come up in the trial.

Davis said she didn't think Nichols would ever discuss his relationship with Yousef, who devised a plot known as Operation Bojinka, a kamikaze airliner hijacking plan that became the blueprint for the 9/11 attacks.

"Sources close to the defense have told me, and this comes from recorded conversations with his wife, Lana Padilla, that Terry Nichols is going to remain clammed up for the rest of his natural days on earth," Davis told Batchelor.

"He wants to protect his son Joshua from any retaliation," she added. Filipino police informant, Edwin Angeles, who first detailed meetings between Yousef and Nichols, was assassinated in 1998.

Yousef's partner in the Bojinka plot, Abdul Hakim Murad, was apprehended by Filipino police in 1994 and taken to New York to stand trial. On the morning of the OKC bombing, Murad summoned his jailers to tell them he and Yousef were connected to the crime. Later that day Murad gave the FBI a written confession.

Just months before his own June 2001 execution for the crime, Timothy McVeigh referred to both Yousef and Osama bin Laden in a letter to Fox News Channel's Rita Cosby.

"Collateral Damage? As an American news junkie; a military man; and a Gulf War veteran, where do they think I learned that? (It sure as hell wasn't Osama Bin Laden!)," he wrote in April 2001.

In the next sentence, McVeigh mentioned Yousef.

"For all else, I would refer you to my enclosed paper 'Hypocrisy,' and to Ramzi Yousef's statement to the court just prior to his sentencing. I filter all labels and insults thusly."

In the Jan. 8, 1998, court statement to which McVeigh referred, Yousef proclaimed, "Yes, I am a terrorist and proud of it as long as it is against the U.S. government," before being sentenced to 240 years in jail.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; alquaida; banglist; filipino; flip; jaynadavis; mcveigh; morrowbuilding; nichols; obl; ok; okc; okcbombing; oklahoma; oklahomacity; philippines; phillipines; reno; tagalog; terrorists; timothymcveigh; waco; wtc
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To: 45Auto

Bayourod obviously took some paranoid banned posters rantings and applied it generally to 2nd amendment supporters..Generalizing is not ever a wise argument.


141 posted on 05/28/2004 10:17:43 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: MEG33
Generalizing is not ever a wise argument.

You realized that you just generalized, don't you? (c8

142 posted on 05/28/2004 10:23:32 AM PDT by Poohbah (Four thousand throats may be cut in a single night by a running man -- Kahless the Unforgettable)
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To: Poohbah

good tear-down.


143 posted on 05/28/2004 10:32:49 AM PDT by King Prout (the difference between "trained intellect" and "indoctrinated intellectual" is an Abyssal gulf)
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To: Poohbah; 45Auto

Generalizing is many times an unfair/inaccurate/deceptive way to present an argument?


144 posted on 05/28/2004 10:34:19 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: MamaLucci

Sorry, I don't buy that. We have enough people floating around the country in witness protection and despite the TV and movie scenarios it's a pretty effective tool. His son is a good excuse, but if he had something to say he'd say it. Why? What he knows his family should know. He married a Filipina from Cebu. She would be aware of whom he did and didn't meet with.When he goes to needleland the bad guys will do his family. Federal protection would be the only way if he had something to tell.


145 posted on 05/28/2004 10:35:21 AM PDT by xkaydet65 (" You have never tasted freedom my friend, else you would know, it is purchased not with gold, but w)
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To: MEG33

Chill, I was jest funnin' ya!


146 posted on 05/28/2004 10:36:01 AM PDT by Poohbah (Four thousand throats may be cut in a single night by a running man -- Kahless the Unforgettable)
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To: Poohbah

I know..but I had to redeem myself! LOL


147 posted on 05/28/2004 10:48:02 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: MEG33; Poohbah; 45Auto

to generalize
is oft unwise


148 posted on 05/28/2004 10:48:28 AM PDT by King Prout (the difference between "trained intellect" and "indoctrinated intellectual" is an Abyssal gulf)
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To: King Prout

Much better!


149 posted on 05/28/2004 10:49:41 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: King Prout; All
the scabrous flatulence of a village idiot equating RKBA hardliners with islamicists.

I admit to not knowing what the RKBA is. Pray tell. But i believe i get the gist of your point. I believe this is the start of an effort to associate the conservative movement and al-qaeda terrorists. Am i way off on this?
150 posted on 05/28/2004 10:52:34 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: All

Anyone know what ever happened to OKCsubmariner? He had a good archive of info on the bombing.


151 posted on 05/28/2004 11:15:47 AM PDT by MileHi
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To: MeekOneGOP

Thanks for the ping, Meek.

Great article!

Still waiting for this information to become widely understood, but I'm not holding my breath.

I wish Bill O'Reilly would devote time to the OKC/WTC and Iraq/al Qaeda connections instead of some of the nonsense he covers.

Would you believe he just learned about the Salman Pak training camp THIS WEEK? He did a Talking Points Memo about it as if it was news.


152 posted on 05/28/2004 11:17:06 AM PDT by RottiBiz (Help end Freepathons -- become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: bayourod

You, sir, are an insufferable a$$.


153 posted on 05/28/2004 11:20:37 AM PDT by MileHi
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To: wagglebee
Reno......why?

This story obviously didn't jive with X42's scenario of RIGHT WING & RUSH LIMBAUGH fanatics being responsible for the OK City Bombing.

154 posted on 05/28/2004 11:21:04 AM PDT by PISANO (NEVER FORGET 911 !!!!)
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To: RottiBiz
My pleasure. Thanks. :^)

Yes, I saw that part of his show mentioning Salman Pak too.


155 posted on 05/28/2004 11:30:07 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is ONLY ONE good Democrat: one that has just been voted OUT of POWER ! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: CWOJackson

Your gun-grabbing buddy is at it again over here.


156 posted on 05/28/2004 11:46:07 AM PDT by jmc813 (Help save a life - www.marrow.org)
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To: uncitizen

RKBA = Right to Keep and Bear Arms

the one civil right the free exercise of which purchases and protects all the others.


157 posted on 05/28/2004 12:16:20 PM PDT by King Prout (the difference between "trained intellect" and "indoctrinated intellectual" is an Abyssal gulf)
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To: MEG33

doggerel rhyme helps. just ask johnnie cochran :)


158 posted on 05/28/2004 12:18:08 PM PDT by King Prout (the difference between "trained intellect" and "indoctrinated intellectual" is an Abyssal gulf)
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To: RottiBiz
Would you believe he just learned about the Salman Pak training camp THIS WEEK? He did a Talking Points Memo about it as if it was news.

Amazing. O'Reilly's popularity escapes me. He makes such a big deal out of his 'no spin' non partisan approach that he's just mushy Jello.

Rush brought it up like 2 years ago, right?

159 posted on 05/28/2004 12:21:24 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Stop the war. ********** NUKE EM NOW !)
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To: bayourod
I didn't compare people who believe in the "traditionalist" view of the Bill of Rights to terrorists. I compared the psychos who kill innocent women and children to Muslim terrorists. I compared "moderate Muslims" who refused to condemn Islamoterrorists to gun enthusiasts who refused to condemn McVeigh and Nichols.

That's an interesting turn of logic. Has it ever occurred to you that had 'gun enthusiasts' known about the OKC plot beforehand, that Nichols, McVeigh, Al Husseini and whoever else was involved would never have been alive to carry it out.

You're a real skidmark in the underwear of life.

160 posted on 05/28/2004 12:31:23 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Stop the war. ********** NUKE EM NOW !)
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