Posted on 05/26/2004 4:36:12 AM PDT by ElisabethInCincy
Call to prayer, noise ordinance, to go before Hamtramck voters
Tuesday, May 25, 2004
BY CECIL ANGEL FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER It's now up to voters.
The decision that has split Hamtramck -- City Council approval of a noise ordinance that would have allowed the Muslim call to prayer to be broadcast on loudspeakers from the Al-Islah Islamic Center -- was affirmed by a 5-0 vote Tuesday night.
Because the council didn't rescind the ordinance, the issue will go before voters, as required by the city charter. Until then, the city must put the ordinance on hold because residents filed petitions to stop it from going into law today.
The issue could be on the ballot as early as July in a special election or in August, the next regular election.
Even though the ordinance is in limbo, the Al-Islah mosque's leaders said Tuesday night they will begin broadcasting the call to prayer in Arabic at 1:30 p.m. Friday.
Masud Khan, secretary of the Al-Islah Islamic Center, said the mosque has a constitutional right to broadcast the call to prayer, adding that it is already being done in Detroit and Dearborn.
"If Detroit can do it, why can't we?" he asked. "We have religious freedom. We can express our religion."
The mosque wouldn't be breaking any laws if it does, said Councilman Shahab Ahmed. He said the Islamic center was just being a good neighbor when it asked for the city's permission in January to begin broadcasting. It won't be penalized for using its loudspeakers to broadcast the call to prayer with or without the ordinance, he said.
Mosques in Dearborn and Detroit broadcast on loudspeakers and have done so without seeking permission from those city governments.
"I'm very disappointed it's going to a ballot and further divide the community," Ahmed said.
For Robert Zwolak, organizer of the petition drive, the issue is about noise, not religion. He's confident the ballot issue to overturn the ordinance will easily be approved by Hamtramck voters.
"I personally don't think we need a campaign," he said. "The people are aware of this thing."
But City Council President Karen Majewski said the irony of the petition drive is that it strips city control over the frequency and volume of the call-to-prayer broadcasts.
"The petition actually rescinds whatever control we might have had," Majewski said. "I don't see the logic in that."
Calls to prayer occur five times a day and last about two minutes. Officials at the Al-Islah Islamic Center say when they begin broadcasting, they will not do so in the early morning or late at night so no one will be disturbed.
Muslims have been in Hamtramck for decades, but a wave of immigration from Bangladesh, Yemen, Bosnia and other countries with large Muslim populations have boosted their numbers and political clout in the city.
The city has struggled with its changing demographics and religious and ethnic differences.
"Fear of change and fear of the unknown," are the reasons many residents signed the petitions against the call to prayer, said Councilman Rob Cedar. "I voted for this because I thought it was the right thing to do."
You can bet anyone playing their own music in protest will be hauled off to jail. The times we live in....
Unfortunately, at least 30,000 Americans will have to die before we finally act against Global Islam.
Give 'em hell, Freepers.
Regards,
Lenny from Hamtramck
Stay Safe !
That's why we need a right-wing Soros, a nut job billionaire who will subsidize things like the pork barbeque and louspeakers shouting "Jesus is Lord, all others are false prophets...repent or be cast into eternal flame"
Good. It will take less time to find and intern them when the nuke attack comes.
Yikes...
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Stuff a package of greasy, raw bacon in the loudspeakers.
Hamtramckistan
The way Michigan is going, a decade from now we'll see a Muslim-only state.
That's a moderately tough nut to crack. Most of the noise canceling devices depend on eliminating a periodic noise. A waveform that matches the periodic form, but is 180 degrees out of phase will result in cancellation. A human voice speaking is not that kind of periodic waveform. A jet engine turbine or noise from a fan blade would meet the requirements.
A strategically placed microphone might be able to receive the audio waveform, transmit it electronically to get ahead of the wave front, then convert back to audio 180 degrees out of phase.
"What is best in life?" To destroy the jihadists, to drive their leftist enablers before you, and to hear the lamentations of their media!
Surround the mosque with loudspeakers and play endless bagpies and drums!
Surround the mosque with loudspeakers and play endless bagpies and drums!
I Know its a Tough nut but it can be done. You must consider thier transmision will be the same transmision at a given time in the same wave lenght over and over. you can reverse phase it after you know the pattern which makes it all that easier, which begs the question... are they pre-recorded? If so then all the work is done because it can be done before hand and not rely on an incoming new message to re-phase just reverse phasing a known variable. If all the wave lenghts are known the enginering its already done... it all comes down to timing... a prerecored reverse phase in synch with thier transmision. echo effect may also work wont cancel the noise but will scramble the hell out of it! I'm not an engineer just a guy who spent lots of time playing guitar and listning to rock and roll. besides anything created by man can be defeated by man.
The Danger Within: Militant Islam in America
"What such an effort would look like is a subject unto itself, but at a minimum it would have to entail the vigilant application of social and political pressure to ensure that Islam is not accorded special status of any kind in this country, the active recruitment of moderate Muslims in the fight against Islamic extremism, a keener monitoring of Muslim organizations with documented links to Islamist activity, including the support of terrorism, and the immediate reform of immigration procedures to prevent a further influx of visitors or residents with any hint of Islamist ideology. Wherever that seditious and totalitarian ideology has gained a foothold in the world, it has wrought havoc, and some societies it has brought to their knees. The preservation of our existing order can no longer be taken for granted; it needs to be fought for."
Regarding setting up a pork barbecue joint: Wouldn't inhaling barbecued pig smoke be also against Muslim tenets, since it is a form ingestion as the smoke lodges in the lungs. I would think non-Muslims in these areas could just advertise that fact that they are going to barbecue pork in their back yards until the noise stops. Then have great big Hawaiian style barbecues and bathe the areas in burning pig smoke.
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