Peaceful religion isn't spelled I-s-l-a-m: Quran verses contradicting Muslim claims

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | May 25, 2004 | Mychal Massie

[Cronos]

What do you think of

Pakistan: Unknown-armed men kidnap priest (Religion of Peace)

Critics: Pakistan Schools Help Breed Terrorism

Pakistani Christian Murdered in His Home

government's first gift to Christians. A bomb blasts ... Church. (Pakistan, December 2002)

[Cronos]

Are these killings ordered by God, G-d or Allah, or are they ordered by mortal men who find in religion a useful tool to further their own very earthly goals ?

They ain't ordered by Gd, but byAllah or his profit Mo.

[Cronos]

What's the central message of Christianity? Love one another as God loves you.

What's the central message of Mo's cult? Kill 'em.

And you say there are peacefuil teachigns that contradict the central theme? Where? Which surah? Have you read the Koran?

[Drawsing]

are they ordered by mortal men who find in religion a useful tool to further their own very earthly goals ?

Yes, absolutely, well put. BUT, there is still a fundamental difference. Christianity does not teach and sanction death for unbelievers. Islam does.

[BayouCoyote]

"Islam as a whole is a wonderful religion that stresses obedience to God's will, prayer, and compassion."

Spoken like a true dhimmi. Now go sweep the yard around the mosque. We will not slaughter you since you know your roll in the islamic society. You are a good daughter of apes and monkeys. You will make an excellent slave for use at the local fatwa party held every night. Be sure to put on your best burka b/c you will be raped, then circumcised and then stoned to death for bing an infidel whore who dressed improperly. Allah Akbar!! Pigs be upon him!

[SiliconValleyGuy]

You can't blame the whole religion because of it's fanatics. Sure the Koran has it's violent parts, but most Muslims are not terrorists. The problem is that the loud ones are.

[2banana]

You could find many examples, just as horrifying, of Christian communities or countries making a massacre of Muslims, Jews, and other Christians.

Really?

Give me some of these "many examples." Something not from the middle ages. Something along the lines of today's arab muslims in the Sudan killing, raping and enslaving millions of black Christians. Or what the muslims or doing to Christians in Indonesia. Or the muslim slaughter of Christians during church services in Pakistan. Or the beheadings of "infidels" while chanting "God is Great." Or the bombing of trains. Or the destruction of office towers. And all done in the name of their "religion"

[Atlantic Friend]

As a matter of fact, Christianity does teach I should put to death someone who's slept with a woman while she was impure, among other nasty things. I'll re-read the Leviticus book, but it's real keen on burning people alive, IIRC.

I suppose the main difference is that our priests and reverends and cardinals, etc, do not see this as the central message to be brought to people's hearts.

[Cronos]

The difference is that those were past aberrations

Good point -- aberrations. The alQ aren't aberrations, they are the norm. The Peaceful slammmies ARE the aberration.

[Cronos]

You could find many examples, just as horrifying, of Christian communities or countries making a massacre of Muslims, Jews, and other Christians. Does that make Christianty a criminal religion ? Are these killings ordered by God, G-d or Allah, or are they ordered by mortal men who find in religion a useful tool to further their own very earthly goals ?

Where? In France? in Spain? in America? in the UK? Don't talk rot. Name one place where there is ChristianMuslim fights and theChristian community isn't continuously on the defensive? Nigeria, Pakistan, indonesia, the Phillipines etc.

[Cronos]

Plus, they go to the celestial virginns and young boys.

[Cronos]

Pigs be upon him!

Well put. I'm glad to see that there are more of my fellow freeepers who see the cult for what it really is.

[Cronos]

Sure the Koran has it's violent parts, but most Muslims are not terrorists

Poll in the Salmic world -- kill the infidels? a near 100% agreement. Why? Because Shariah and the Koran say that that is their duty. IF they do that they will get 72perpetuual virginns and young boys to deflowwer over and over agin.

[Vision]

Islam as a whole is a wonderful religion that stresses obedience to God's will, prayer, and compassion.

Says you

You want to criticize these versions of Islam? Fine. And criticize the KKK, the Spanish Inquisition...

We do

If we were fighting one billion people, we'd have more than 800 casualties in one year.

My boss is muslim and I am shaking with emotion when I say our relationship can be summed up by..."Find and slay the pagans [non-Muslims] wherever you find them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them, in every stratagem (of war);"

The muslims at my job gleefully fantasize about suitcase nukes. Period. I would love to hear about some America loving muslims. I'm waiting...

[Cronos]

And which verse in the Bible says that you should go out and slaughter infidels? There is a verse that says you should preach the message. Is there any that says you should preach it with a sword? NO.

Go read the Bible first and then the Koran. I suspect you haven't read either in depth.

[Cronos]

The muslims at my job gleefully fantasize about suitcase nukes

Which loonie bin do you work in?????

[Cronos]

If we were fighting one billion people, we'd have more than 800 casualties in one year.

And Lady doc where DO you get the 800 casualties from? Just fromthe Gulf liberation? What about afghanistan, Pakistan, Nigeria, India, the Phjillipines, Chechnya, Spain, the UK, Sudan, Ethiopia, Kenya, etc. etc.?? that figure would run to 10s of thousands per year.

[Cronos]

Even better, tell me one slammmic place that has a true democracy? And Turkey's militarry governnment doesn't count. India's elections put a lie to all their excuses. These coutnries are filthy rich. yet, they have beggars and have to import labour because their own people are lazy.

Ove rhte past 50 years, the slammie world has barely progressed while East Asia, Latin America and South Asia have mvoed ahead.

[petercooper]

12th century death cult.

[Cronos]

12th century death cult.

Actually, 7th century, it is 1400 years old.