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Karpinski Says She Was 'Set Up' in Prison Scandal
LA Times ^ | May 24, 2004 | Richard A. Serrano

Posted on 05/25/2004 1:39:54 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182

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To: Anti-Bubba182
I am a general officer. Nobody could spend the 25 cents to call me?

Ahem... um, Janis... Paging Brigadier General Janis Karpinski...

Well, she ain't answering her official Army cell phone, her home phone answering machine message box full, checked every TV cable show all over New York and Washington, what do want the Army to do? THEY SENT YOU A FREAKIN' EMAIL, GET OVER IT!

ps - Max Factor called: It seems that you have joined Omarosa on the reject list there, too.

21 posted on 05/25/2004 3:06:23 AM PDT by Chieftain (To all who serve and support those who serve - thank you!)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
"she had no idea of the depth of problems uncovered at the infamous prison outside Baghdad. "

Prosecution rests, your honor. She is guilty as charged (or will be).

Regards,

22 posted on 05/25/2004 3:19:24 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Alaska Wolf
"I just wish she would stand up and take it like a man."

Good Editorial on that very subject.

Why Can't She Take It Like a Man?

23 posted on 05/25/2004 3:32:43 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: MEG33
I read Taguba's report on her and the lack of discipline and good order of those under her.

I haven't read the report, but based upon eight years of active duty, there's no doubt in my military mind that the chain of command was nonexistent. Why? The abuses took place between 2-4 AM.

Where were the NCOs? Where were the officers, from the butterbars to the stars? Had they been doing their jobs, this thing would have been stopped long ago.

Every unit that I was assigned to had 24/7 manning, with staff duty officers/NCOs responsible for oversight after normal duty hours. Routine inspections after hours would have uncovered the hanky panky taking place.

24 posted on 05/25/2004 3:37:20 AM PDT by Night Hides Not
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To: Anti-Bubba182

The fruit of Clintonian 'Da cow twits' .....in action


25 posted on 05/25/2004 3:41:19 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Night Hides Not

"She wasn't allowed into that unit..The MI ran it"...That's her story , she's sticking with it and McCaffarey stuck it to her for disclaiming any reponsibility over her own MPs....Big breakdown in oversight....I am sure as soon as the investigation is completed, the MI is in for some house cleaning,too.


26 posted on 05/25/2004 3:45:28 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

DC Mayor for Life Marion Barry said the same thing.


27 posted on 05/25/2004 3:52:05 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother (My other brother's Buford)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

When people are given positions they havent earned to promote a politically correct agenda this is what you get.

The government offices are full of these people , now the military obviously has their quota.


28 posted on 05/25/2004 4:01:27 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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To: sgtbono2002
What, she doesn't believe in paper trails?? A phone call is not a paper trail.

Tell her to read the Taguba report.

Also tell her that her policy of: "Visiting each prison at least once in a three month period" isn't acceptable to even me, based on common sense. She's a disgrace as a "leader".

29 posted on 05/25/2004 4:16:09 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

AAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH, you just know there are more like her in our military. She probably got her promotions the same way Weasley Clark got his..........reasons other than merit.


30 posted on 05/25/2004 4:24:22 AM PDT by OldFriend (LOSERS quit when they are tired/WINNERS quit when they have won)
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To: RichInOC

She makes me think of Molly Ivers.


31 posted on 05/25/2004 4:32:24 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Brig. Gen. Janis L. Karpinski insisted that she was "set up'' by Army officials

Well, this is certainly a surprise (/sarcasm)

32 posted on 05/25/2004 4:59:56 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Brig. Gen. Janis L. Karpinski insisted that she was "set up'' by Army officials who had her sign the letter when she had no idea of the depth of problems uncovered at the infamous prison outside Baghdad.

Ok, General, so the 'Army officials' twisted your arm and forced you to sign the letter.

Maybe, at that point you should have been suspicious and asked what you were signing.
33 posted on 05/25/2004 5:37:45 AM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: TomGuy
I'm a General...and you only sent me an email!
You didn't send any flowers...I know nothing.
 

"During the course of this investigation I conducted a lengthy interview with Brig. Gen. Karpinski that lasted over four hours, and is included verbatim in the investigation annexes. Brig. Gen. Karpinski was extremely emotional during much of her testimony. What I found particularly disturbing in her testimony was her complete unwillingness to either understand or accept that many of the problems inherent in the 800th MP Brigade were caused or exacerbated by poor leadership and the refusal of her command to both establish and enforce basic standards and principles among its soldiers."

                                                       Maj. Gen. Antonio M. Taguba


34 posted on 05/25/2004 6:39:59 AM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: Wolverine
Brig. Gen. Karpinski was extremely emotional during much of her testimony.

Interpretation: If I cry, will that help?
35 posted on 05/25/2004 6:51:22 AM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
So, was Karpinski lying when she said this: "In a December 2003 interview with the St. Petersburg (Fla.) Times, Karpinski said conditions in the prison were better than many Iraqi homes and joked that some of the POWs might not want to leave."

Oh, I guess Brig. Gen. Schultz knew nothing of what was going on.

36 posted on 05/25/2004 2:04:57 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: NYCVirago
Her job: Lock up Iraq's bad guys

Not so much lying as clueless. When they had an IG inspection about Abu Ghraib in the summer and the International Red Cross was asking questions later and other items, it should have given her a clue, but it didn't.

37 posted on 05/25/2004 5:51:50 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182
"Abu Ghraib, at the time these offenses were committed, did not belong to Brigadier General Karpinski. It was not her prison to go into. It belong to Colonel Pappas..... "

Isn't the highest ranking officer in charge? Certainly a General outranks a Colonel?

I don't have any military background at all, so can someone please straighten me out if I a wrong. I expect a General to be a take charge person, not someone whining and carrying on as a victim, like the low person on the totem pole.

It does make me doubt the Army, if this person can rise so high in the chain if command.
38 posted on 05/25/2004 7:32:08 PM PDT by jeannineinsd
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