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JORDAN TIP EXPOSED CHALABI AS IRAN 'SPY'
New York Post ^ | 5/22/04 | NILES LATHEM

Posted on 05/22/2004 1:28:37 AM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:21:57 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

May 22, 2004 -- WASHINGTON - Jordan's King Abdullah fueled the U.S. move against Iraqi leader Ahmed Chalabi by providing bombshell intelligence that his group was spying for Iran, The Post has learned. An explosive dossier that the Jordanian monarch recently brought with him to White House sessions with President Bush detailed Mafia-style extortion rackets and secret information on U.S. military operations being passed to Iran, diplomats said.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: chalabi; iraq; jordan; southwestasia; spy; tips
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To: BigSkyFreeper

I had a gut feeling too, but I dismissed it until recently when his rhetoric seemed to be anti-American.


21 posted on 05/22/2004 3:59:36 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: kattracks
The bottom line to me is our own intelligence is pretty much a joke. Here we are paying Middle East backstabbers good money for info and our country is mobilized on the strength of the lies of double-dealers.

I wouldn't trust any of these people in the Middle East to tell us the truth. I'm not sure these savage barbarians even understand the concept of objective truth.

Add to that the American people cannot even rely on the loyalty of our own State Department people and you end up with a world-class goat screw.

22 posted on 05/22/2004 4:03:25 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Use It Or Lose It

Bremer might be planning to make a break for the Dewmocrat party in July. THis actually might be a move to end run him by the administration. This might be cleverer than it appears, particularly if the Oil for Food info is sitting in the habds of people less sensitive to those involced inthe scandal. What is a plus is that it puts the UN scandal back on the radar screen.


23 posted on 05/22/2004 4:08:37 AM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: Miss Marple

I'm willing to share my supersized bottle of Tylenol. I'm buying in bulk since the media-driven prison "scandal" just won't seem to go away.


24 posted on 05/22/2004 4:16:50 AM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades...And panties!)
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To: kattracks

bump


25 posted on 05/22/2004 4:25:30 AM PDT by wingman1 (University of Vietnam '70)
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To: lainde
No kidding. And another thing, besides all the double-dealers in the Arab world, you have to figure that the State Department is also full of backstabbers, the media makes stuff up, and there are embedded Clintonistas in some parts of the Pentagon.

I need more coffee. It's too early for me to really think about this.

26 posted on 05/22/2004 4:25:51 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: kattracks

Jordan, huh? Gee, you don't suppose Brahimi benefits from this, do you? Not that I'm not all too willing to believe Chalabi capable of selling us out, but I could say the same for Brahimi, too.


27 posted on 05/22/2004 4:41:04 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: CasearianDaoist
Bremer might be planning to make a break for the Dewmocrat party in July.

Are you sure? My understanding is that President Bush was so happy with Paul Bremer's performance that he was thinking of asking him to replace Colin Powell as Secretary of State. This was back in November.

28 posted on 05/22/2004 4:43:29 AM PDT by Teplukin
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To: Teplukin
No I am not sure...it is just scuttlebutt that I have heard. Perhaps I should have been clearer about that in my post.

I was just playing with ideas. I imagine that we will get a reasonable explanation in a few days. Obviously they are going to have to clean up a great deal before July 1st.

I never trusted either Chalabi or Bremer. I do not trust State, it is a central pillar of the Decosrats power machine (so is the CIA, BTW.) I would like to see Bush win and then put someone in as Sec. of State that would clean up that mess over there. I don't know who that is (Condi, Guliani?) but it needs to get done and pronto.

29 posted on 05/22/2004 4:51:05 AM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: Teplukin

I have read rumors about Bremer joining up with Kamp Kerry. Analyst on Fox trying to explain that Chalabi wasn't getting the support amongst the Iraqi people and tried to shore up his political image other ways.

??

I agree with the observations of others. Lying and deceit is so common place and accepteed in that area of the world, I don't know how we can know how to trust.

Prairie


30 posted on 05/22/2004 4:57:47 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (sKerry is a sKunk!!)
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To: Miss Marple
I don't know what to think. That whole part of the world is so full of liars and double-dealers that it gives me a headache

MM..you've hit it right on the head.

So much duplicity and out and out lying, there's no way anyone can know what to think.

I do find it 'curious' that our "go to guy" is now our supposed enemy.

31 posted on 05/22/2004 4:58:40 AM PDT by evad ("Such an enemy cannot be deterred, detained, appeased, or negotiated with. It can only be destroyed")
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To: CasearianDaoist
I never trusted either Chalabi or Bremer. I do not trust State, it is a central pillar of the Decosrats power machine (so is the CIA, BTW.) I would like to see Bush win and then put someone in as Sec. of State that would clean up that mess over there. I don't know who that is (Condi, Guliani?) but it needs to get done and pronto.

Thanks for for the reply

Yes, I am in 100% agreement with you. I am not impressed with Bremer either. I don't think he has been serving President Bush very well.

Some other posters on a another thread have hinted that since Mr. Chalabi was championed by civilians at the Pentagon, this arrest represents some sort of payback.

Frankly, it will take greater minds than mine to figure out this development! LOL!

32 posted on 05/22/2004 5:01:28 AM PDT by Teplukin
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To: prairiebreeze
I agree with the observations of others. Lying and deceit is so common place and accepteed in that area of the world, I don't know how we can know how to trust.

yes, I agree Prairie. If these charges are true (and as I say, I can't say one way or another), this is certainly a rotten way to behave towards America.

I am just wondering how he got hold of Saddam's secret files that he was using to blackmail folks. Who gave those to him? Shouldn't those files be property of us?

33 posted on 05/22/2004 5:07:21 AM PDT by Teplukin
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To: lainde
since the media-driven prison "scandal" just won't seem to go away.

Who else would drive it? Rumsfeld?

34 posted on 05/22/2004 5:11:27 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: Teplukin

This guy is worse than our media, and thats bad.


35 posted on 05/22/2004 5:16:43 AM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: claudiustg

"Chalabi, rug merchant extraordinaire! Where is the CIA and the FBI in all of this? Smokin' in the boy's room? And where would be the State Department?"


The State boys and girls and CIA have not liked and trusted this guy from the "git go". However, they cannot point fingers of accusation to the "hardliners" for anything. Their shops were as tight with the UN and that "Oil for rotten Food" program as anybody else.


36 posted on 05/22/2004 5:33:02 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: evad

I've got to wonder if both sides didn't use each other to justify their desired ends? Or our role by this point was to be more show of force rather than an ongoing use of force. Who outside of the administration could take the fall for that shortcoming. Hmmmmm, the idiot that gave the info on tons of WMD's and other overstated weapons programs, the welcoming of us into their culture, the reduction of hostilities once Saddam and his sons were out of the picture.....do I need to go on?


37 posted on 05/22/2004 5:33:42 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: kattracks
It is simple, Middle Easterners never, never, never, act in good faith, period!
38 posted on 05/22/2004 5:36:59 AM PDT by RAY (They that do right are all heroes!)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
"world-class goat screw"

Is that like a "cluster f*** ". ROFLMAO

39 posted on 05/22/2004 5:42:07 AM PDT by chiller (JUDGES is JOB #1)
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To: kattracks
Separated at birth.

I was for Iraqi freedom, before I was against it.

I sided with the Americans, until I sided with the enemy.

40 posted on 05/22/2004 5:47:55 AM PDT by syriacus (Have you hugged a rudderless, down-at-the-mouth liberal today?)
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