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Electoral College Breakdown 2004, May 19th Update
ECB2004 ^ | 5/19/04

Posted on 05/19/2004 4:57:53 PM PDT by Dales

I Wouldn't Touch It With a 10 Foot Poll

Same As It Ever Was

A lot has been made about the division between Red and Blue states. John Edwards ran his primary campaign around the concept of "two Americas". At times it seems as if Americans are locked into some sort of dysfunctional marriage badly in need of a John Gray book- "Republicans are from Mars, Democrats are from Venus". From Michael Moore and Al Franken to Ann Coulter it certainly can seem as if partisanship is at an all-time high.

But it is not. Partisanship was with our country almost from the start.

While George Washington did not face the partisan heat in either of his 'campaigns', towards the end of his 8 year tenure the bug was starting to bite the young nation, and even the original George W. did not escape its gnaw. Ben Franklin's grandson, Benjamin Franklin Bache, writing as editor of the Philadelphia paper The Aurora, said "If ever a nation was debauched by a man, the American nation has been debauched by Washington." Another editor, William Duane, wrote, "Would to God you had retired to a private station four years ago." And that was in response to his Farewell Address, in which Washington had warned against party strife.

The campaign for the right to follow Washington as President was amazingly rancorous. Adams was denounced as "an avowed friend of the monarchy", a claim tantamount to treason against the very founding of the nation. Supporters of Jefferson claimed he wanted to make his sons "Seigneurs or Lords of this country." In return, the Federalists threw the gauntlet at Jefferson. Atheist. Anarchist. French stooge. Coward. And his supporters, "cut-throats who walk in rags and sleep amidst filth and vermin".

The media did not ask them to apologize, either.

It did not take long for internal party bickering to surface, either. In the run-up to the 1800 election, Alexander Hamilton made a bid to become the first unofficial 'unappeasable' partisan, saying President Adams (a fellow Federalist), "If we must have an enemy at the head of the Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures." Adams replied by calling Hamilton "a bastard". Jefferson was still the target of much vitriol, with Jacobin being a favorite. He was "a mean-spirited, low lived fellow". The politics of fear mongering and demonization were rampant. Papers wrote, "Murder, robbery, rape, adultery and incest will all be openly taught and practiced" if Jefferson was elected. Adams was characterized as "one continued tempest of malignant passions."

The more things change, the more things stay the same.

Speaking of staying the same, the current campaign seems to have reached a certain level of stagnation. There were many stories this past week about how the President's approval ratings had fallen to new lows, but at the same time the matchup polls showed little, if any, change. Earlier this week, I blogged a comparison of the recent national polls to exemplify that the stories of Bush collapsing and Kerry surging were a bit out of phase with what the actual results were showing (and for those who do read my blog, I apologize for this not being new material, but this has been a very busy week at work).

Newsweek/Princeton Research Associates (MoE +/-4%)
May 13-14 Kerry 43 Bush 42 Kerry +1
April 8-9 Kerry 46 Bush 42 Kerry +4

Perhaps Bush has gained 3 points (or more accurately, Kerry has lost 3). Or perhaps this is just some random statistical noise.

Time/CNN by Harris Interactive (MoE +/-4.1%)
May 12-13 Kerry 51 Bush 46 Kerry +5
February 5-6 Kerry 48 Bush 50 Bush +2

Kerry gains 3, Bush loses 4. Could be that Kerry gained, or again, this could be random statistical noise.

CNN/USAToday/Gallup (MoE +/-5%)
May 7-9 Kerry 47 Bush 48 Bush +1
May 2-4 Kerry 49 Bush 48 Kerry +1

Bush's support stayed the same. Kerry lost two points. Or the randomness inherent in sampling is showing. Can you tell which it is?

Zogby (MoE +/-3.2%)
May 10-13 Kerry 47 Bush 42 Kerry +5
April 15-17 Kerry 47 Bush 44 Kerry +3

Kerry's support stayed the same. Bush lost two points. Or the randomness inherent in sampling is showing. Can you tell which it is? If you can, can you tell Gallup and Zogby?

Rasmussen 7 Day Tracking (MoE +/-2%)
May 7-13 Kerry 46 Bush 46 Push
May 1-6 Kerry 46 Bush 44 Kerry +2

If there is a pattern here, I certainly cannot see it. The state level polls this week also showed not much movement. Ohio moved a bit towards Kerry, Michigan a bit towards Bush, but by and large things are as they were, with things as contradictory as ever. As mentioned above, Bush's approval numbers have declined to levels seem recently for campaigning incumbents who lost- Ford, Carter, and his father. At the same time, a Pew poll showed that of those backing Kerry, by a two to one margin they said that it was primarily because they were against the President rather than for the Senator; that has only happened twice in recent times, with both similarly 'backed' candidates being defeated (Bob Dole and Mike Dukakis). Last week it looked like the rust belt was swinging towards Kerry, and this week it looks like they are swinging back to a stalemate. For those, like me, who try to write about how the race is going, it would certainly be easier if the dynamics would change a bit more. It is hard to come up with new ways of saying "it is a tight race".

(To those who were hoping for an article with more in-depth polling analysis, I apologize. A confluence of a lack of time and a lack of finding anything particularly different than has been hashed out conspired against your wishes. Next week should bring a more traditional ECB style article. All quotations from the early portion of our nation's history were taken from the entertaining tome "Presidential Campaigns" by Paul F. Boller, Jr.)


This Week's Polling Updates Overview

This week featured a bakers' dozen new state polls, but they did little to transform the general outlook. Three of these polls were partisan Democrat releases, obviously trying to dovetail with the media stories about the Bush difficulties to create a sense, at least in the media, of one campaign walking tall and another in disarray. For the media polls, we had Ohio and Michigan moving in opposite directions, conflicting results for Oregon, a slight narrowing in Illinois, and a whole lotta staying the same in the rest. The current scorecard shows Kerry with a slight ECB lead, 213-211. Bush takes the lead, barely, with tossups factored in, 248-234. In ECB Classic, Bush is ahead by a hair, 196-189. Kerry moves to the lead there with tossups by a 282-250 margin. As for the battlegrounds, they stand as follows.
State 2000 Result Media Battleground Current Status
Florida Bush +0.01 Yes Tossup
New Mexico Gore +0.06 Yes Tossup
Wisconsin Gore +0.2 Yes Kerry, Slight
Iowa Gore +0.3 Yes Kerry, Slight
Oregon Gore +0.4 Yes Kerry, Slight
New Hampshire Bush +1 Yes Kerry, Slight
Minnesota Gore +2 Yes Kerry, Lean
Ohio Bush +4 Yes Kerry, Lean
Nevada Bush +4 Yes Bush, Lean
Pennsylvania Gore +4 Yes Bush, Slight
Michigan Gore +5 Yes Tossup
Arkansas Bush +5 Yes Bush, Slight
Arizona Bush +6 Yes Bush, Slight
West Virginia Bush +6 Yes Bush, Lean
New Jersey Gore +16 No Kerry, Lean


F Ohio
Electoral Votes: 20
2000 Result
Bush 50%
Gore 46%

Background: Since Truman, Ohio has gone Democrat three times. Carter edged Ford by an extremely slim margin, and Clinton won twice, both times relying on Perot heavily.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat Margin
2/7/03 Ohio Poll Link RV 4% Bush 59% Unnamed Democrat 36% Bush +23
9/19/03 Ohio Poll Link RV 4% Bush 57% Kerry 38% Bush +19
3/16/04 Rasmussen Link 500 LV 4.5% Bush 41% Kerry 45% Kerry +4
3/24/04 Ohio Poll Link 632 RV 3.9% Bush 44% Kerry 46% Kerry +2
4/2/04 Columbus Dispatch Link 3,344 RV 2% Bush 46% Kerry 45% Bush +1
5/13/04 American Research Group Link 600 LV 4% Bush 42% Kerry 49% Kerry +7

Punditry: This jibes with some of the information I had seen on Rasmussen's combined three state average of Michigan/Pennsylvania/Ohio, which is that Kerry has opened up a bit of a lead. Leaning Towards Kerry. The majority of the lead that Kerry has in Ohio is due to Bush doing subpar among Republicans as compared to other states. Where nationwide Bush's support among Republicans is in the high 80s, in Ohio it is at exactly 80% (while Kerry gets 87% of Democrats). The President needs to correct this to carry the Buckeye state.


Florida
Electoral Votes: 27
2000 Result
Bush 48.85%
Gore 48.84%

Background: Despite the best efforts of the results-oriented Florida Supreme Court, Bush held on to win the state in 2000, just as every recount conducted afterwards validated. Did you know that since 1948, though, that only three times has Florida gone for the Democrat candidate? Johnson got 51%, Carter got 52%, and Clinton (2nd term) got 48% (with Perot taking 9%). More times than not, the Republican has come closer to 60%. Why Bush underperformed here to such a degree is something his campaign must rectify.

In the first ECB of 2000, Florida was listed as a battleground with a slight advantage to Gore. This time around, it is starting with a slight advantage for Bush. Florida has 6 Democrat Representatives and 18 Republicans. Both chambers of the state legislature are controlled by the Republicans. Republicans control most of the executive branch. However, both Senate seats are held by Democrats. As of Dec. 1, 2003, the state registration was 41.9% Democrat and 38.6% Republican.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat Margin
4/29/03 Mason-Dixon Link RV 5% Bush 53% Unnamed Democrat 38% Bush +15
12/3/03 Schroth & Associates Link 800 RV 3.5% Bush 43% Unnamed Democrat 37% Bush +6
1/15/04 Rasmussen Reports Link LV 5% Bush 47% Unnamed Democrat 45% Bush +2
2/27/04 Research 2000 Link 500 LV 4% Bush 47% Kerry 42% Bush +5
3/4/04 American Research Group Link 600 LV 4% Bush 44% Kerry 45% Kerry +1
3/4/04 Schroth & Associates Link 800 RV 3.5% Bush 43% Kerry 49% Kerry +6
3/14/04 Rasmussen Link 400 LV 5% Bush 45% Kerry 48% Kerry +3
4/1/04 Mason-Dixon Link 625 RV 4% Bush 51% Kerry 43% Bush +8
4/13/04 Rasmussen Reports Link 500 LV 5% Bush 46% Kerry 47% Kerry +1
4/21/04 American Research Group Link 600 LV 4% Bush 46% Kerry 45% Bush +1
5/9/04 Hamilton, Beattie and Staff (D) Link 1000 LV 3% Bush 47% Kerry 50% Kerry +3

Punditry: A partisan Democrat poll confirms again that Florida is close, especially when one applies a bit of a discount to the numbers since it is by a partisan firm and released by a partisan group (Americans Coming Together). It gives me no reason to move Florida from Tossup, which jibes with some other recent numbers I have seen but am unable to share at this point.


F Oregon
Electoral Votes: 7
2000 Result
Gore 46.96%
Bush 46.52%

Background: The last 10 elections have gone 1-5-4. Without Perot, Clinton would likely have lost his initial run here though. From 1968 on, the only Democrat to break 50% here was Michael Dukakis; Reagan and Nixon each broke 50% in their re-elect.

In early 2000, Oregon was polling strongly for Bush. The left coast influence eventually took hold and turned it into a very even state, and it starts this year as a tossup. Democrats hold 4 out of 5 Representative seats, while the Senate seats are divided, just as control of the state legislative chambers is split. The Democrats hold most of the executive branch positions. Democrats hold a 3% lead in registration, 39%-36%.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat Margin
3/5/04 Hibbits Link ? ? Bush 40% Kerry 45% Kerry +5
4/7/04 University of Oregon Link 440 RV 4.7% Bush 47% Kerry 45% Bush +2
4/25/04 Rasmussen Link 500 LV 4.5% Bush 45% Kerry 46% Kerry +1
4/29/04 Research2000 Link 500 LV 4% Bush 46% Kerry 48% Kerry +2
5/4/04 American Research Group Link 600 LV 4% Bush 45% Kerry 45% Push
5/10/04 Research2000 Link 603 LV, Nader not an option 4% Bush 46% Kerry 50% Kerry +4
5/10/04 Research2000 Link 603 LV, Nader an option 4% Bush 45% Kerry 47% Kerry +2
5/10/04 Riley Research Link 776 LV 3.51% Bush 44% Kerry 39% Bush +5

Punditry: It is deja vu all over again. I get an Oregon poll, I move Oregon over to slight Kerry. I get another Oregon poll that says the exact opposite, and I move it back to tossup. Tossup. This is not a good poll for Bush though, since likely voters are dissatisfied with both international affairs and with the economy. They just haven't warmed up to Kerry. This poll shows Bush ahead, but suggests that if things don't change he won't be. The other polls suggested he isn't ahead but could come back. I guess it is fitting that in this divided nation, even the polls are evenly balanced and opposite.


Utah
Electoral Votes: 5
2000 Result
Bush 67%
Gore 26%

Background: You have to go back to Johnson to find a Democrat win here. Clinton came in third in his first election. This is Republican territory.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat Margin
2/19/04 American Research Group Link 404 residents 5% Bush 64% Kerry 31% Bush +33
3/25/04 Dan Jones Link RV 5% Bush 66% Kerry 24% Bush +42
5/13/04 Dan Jones Link 923 RV 3.2% Bush 67% Kerry 22% Bush +45

Punditry: Call it a market inefficiency. We still do not have a recent poll for Virginia, but we have had three for Utah. Kerry gets 81% of those who claim to be Democrats-- and he still cannot break 30. Utah is quite Republican, would you not say? Safe for Bush.


Kentucky
Electoral Votes: 8
2000 Result
Bush 57%
Gore 41%

Background: Johnson, Carter (first time) and Clinton (twice) carried the Bluegrass state. Nixon (twice), Reagan (twice) and both Bushes won here. It is very likely that Clinton would not have carried Kentucky either time if not for Perot. In 1992 Clinton won by three points with Perot capturing 13%, and in 1993 Clinton won by 1% with Perot capturing 9%.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat Margin
10/23/03 Associated Press Link LV 4% Bush 47% Unnamed Democrat 29% Bush +18
2/4/04 Courier Journal NA LV 4% Bush 55% Unnamed Democrat 38% Bush +17
2/16/04 Survey USA Link LV 3.8% Bush 57% Kerry 41% Bush +16
5/11/04 Bluegrass Poll Link 811 Adults 3.4% Bush 52% Kerry 40% Bush +12

Punditry: A slight dip in approval for the President, or is it? After all, this is a poll of adults. It does not really matter either way, as Kentucky remains a Strong Advantage for Bush. Kerry has a tough task here, considering that "44 percent of likely voters who had heard or read something about him have developed an unfavorable impression of him. Only 38 percent said their impression of Kerry was favorable, and 18 percent were undecided." He just does not play well with southerners.


Pennsylvania
Electoral Votes: 21
2000 Result
Gore 51%
Bush 46%

Background: Democrats have won this state 6 of the last 10 elections, with the first of Clinton's wins being attributable to Ross Perot being on the ballot (19%). Typically, the races in the Keystone state have been close. Pennsylvania started as leaning Bush last time, but has drifted to where it has a slight advantage for the Democrats. Republicans hold a 12-7 advantage in the numbers of Representatives, and hold both Senate seats. They also hold both chambers of the state legislature. The Democrats hold the major executive branch positions except for Attorney General, and have a significant registration advantage (48%-42%).

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat Margin
5/13/03 Quinnipiac Link 952 RV 3.2% Bush 56% Kerry 34% Bush +22
10/9/03 Quinnipiac Link 1,116 RV 3% Bush 50% Kerry 43% Bush +7
11/23/03 Muhlenberg College Link 430 RV 4.7% Bush 47% Kerry 40% Bush +7
12/14/03 Quinnipiac Link 1,092 RV 3% Bush 50% Kerry 42% Bush +8
2/18/04 Quinnipiac Ling 1,356 RV 2.7% Bush 45% Kerry 50% Dem +5
2/22/04 Keystone Poll Link 392 RV 4.9% Bush 46% Kerry 47% Dem +1
3/3/04 Pennsylvania Public Mind Link 1750 Adults 2.4% Bush 45% Kerry 47% Kerry +2
3/11/04 Survey USA Link 802 RV 3.5% Bush 47% Kerry 49% Kerry +2
3/15/04 Qunnipiac Link 1,022 RV (Nader not given as an option) 3 Bush 44% Kerry 45% Kerry +1
3/15/04 Qunnipiac Link 1,022 RV (Nader given as an option) 3% Bush 44% Kerry 40% Bush +4
3/16/04 Rasmussen Link 500 LV 4.5% Bush 44% Kerry 45% Kerry +1
3/29/04 Keystone Poll Link 565 RV 4.1% Bush 46% Kerry 40% Bush +6
4/19/04 Quinnipiac Link 769 RV, Nader not an option 3.5% Bush 46% Kerry 42% Bush +4
4/19/04 Quinnipiac Link 769 RV, Nader an option 3.5% Bush 45% Kerry 39% Bush +6
4/25/04 Pew Research Link 867 RV 4% Bush 42% Kerry 42% Push
5/3/04 Bennett, Petts, And Blumenthal (D) Link LV 4% Bush 43% Kerry 49% Kerry +6

Punditry: A partisan poll thrown into the mix. Partisan polls never change my perceptions of a state, although they can reinforce them. In this case, this partisan poll does neither. Could Bush be trailing in Pennsylvania now? It is possible, although it is also possible he is not. But he was not trailing there on May 3rd. Slight Advantage for Bush.

For those who do not understand what I am talking about when it comes to partisan polling firms, let me explain. Campaigns will poll more frequently than the media. Usually, they do not share the results with the public. Occasionally, they will, when it suits their purpose. Given the random variance inherent in sampling (reflected in the margin of error) will mean that one will have a range of different results if one polls often. Poll often enough and one will even eventually get an outlier-- a poll where the results differ from reality by more than the margin of error. A campaign will be able to choose which result to release, and will generally choose the one that works the best towards energizing the base, encouraging donations, and generating favorable news coverage. As such, when a poll is released by a partisan polling firm (a firm that does polls for a specific party), it should be taken with many grains of salt. That holds true for both Republican and Democrat partisan polls.


F Wisconsin
Electoral Votes: 10
2000 Result
Gore 47.83%
Bush 47.61%

Background: I got the *BLEEP* kicked out of me in Wisconsin. Oh wait, sorry. Stripes flashback. Reagan won here twice. Nixon won here three times. LBJ and Carter (against Ford) won here, and then the Democrats have taken the last four elections here. The first of Clinton's wins would have been a loss for him without Perot.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat Margin
5/03 Badger Poll Link Adults 4% Bush 53% Unnamed Democrat 42% Bush +11
10/28/03 Badger Poll Link Adults 4% Bush 46% Unnamed Democrat 45% Bush +1
1/27/04 Badger Poll Link Adults 4% Bush 38% Unnamed Democrat 54% Dem +16
3/24/04 American Research Group Link 600 LV 4% Bush 43% Unnamed Democrat 46% Kerry +3
3/31/04 Badger Poll Link 500 Adults, Nader not an option 4% Bush 47% Kerry 41% Bush +6
3/31/04 Badger Poll Link 500 Adults, Nader an option 4% Bush 49% Kerry 45% Bush +4
4/21/04 Wisconsin Public Radio / St. Norbert College Survey Center Link 358 RV 5% Bush 42% Kerry 49% Kerry +7
4/28/04 Rasmussen Link 500 LV, Nader not an option 4.5% Bush 42% Kerry 50% Kerry +8
4/28/04 Rasmussen Link 500 LV, Nader an option 4.5% Bush 41% Kerry 45% Kerry +4
4/28/04 Badger Poll Link 511 Adults 4.5% Bush 50% Kerry 38% Bush +12
5/9/04 Lake, Snell, Perry & Associates (D) Link ? ? Bush 40% Kerry 49% Kerry +9

Punditry: As mentioned in the Pennsylvania Update, I do not pay much attention to the actual results of partisan polls. Campaigns will poll more frequently than the media. Usually, they do not share the results with the public. Occasionally, they will, when it suits their purpose. Given the random variance inherent in sampling (reflected in the margin of error) this will mean that one will have a range of different results if one polls often. Poll often enough and one will even eventually get an outlier-- a poll where the results differ from reality by more than the margin of error. A campaign will be able to choose which result to release, and will generally choose the one that works the best towards energizing the base, encouraging donations, and generating favorable news coverage. As such, when a poll is released by a partisan polling firm (a firm that does polls for a specific party), it should be taken with many grains of salt. This is even more the case when it is a poll by a soft-money third party like Americans Coming Together. Where a party has a vested interest in at least obtaining accurate information for their own use, these third party groups have no interest other than raising money and influencing the public.

That said, completely independent of the Lake, Snell, Perry and Associates poll, I have reconsidered my tossup designation for Wisconsin. While it remains true that the Badger Poll has been accurate in the past, and while true that there were sample problems for the Wisconsin Public Radio poll, and while true that there has yet to be a Wisconsin poll done that I have had no problems with (in either directions), the overall feel of the state seems to favor Kerry very slightly, and since I was going to be doing an update to put in the partisan poll, I'll take the opportunity to gently slide Wisconsin to Slight Advantage For Kerry.


F Michigan
Electoral Votes: 17
2000 Result
Gore 51%
Bush 46%

Background: 2-5-3 in the last ten elections. Without Perot, it likely would have been 2-6-2. Since Lyndon Johnson, only Reagan in his re-elect has approached 60%. Michigan has gone from leaning Bush to having a slight advantage for the Democrats. Republicans have 9 of 15 Representatives, Democrats hold both Senate seats, while Republicans hold both houses of the state legislature. The state executive is split; Democrats hold the Governor and Lt. Governor positions while Republicans have the Secretary of State and Attorney General slots.

Michigan has gone from leaning Bush to having a slight advantage for the Democrats. Republicans have 9 of 15 Representatives, Democrats hold both Senate seats, while Republicans hold both houses of the state legislature. The state executive is split; Democrats hold the Governor and Lt. Governor positions while Republicans have the Secretary of State and Attorney General slots.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat Margin
5/26/03 Epic/MRA Link 400 RV 5% Bush 48% Unnamed Democrat 41% Bush +7
9/21/03 Mitchell Research Link 600 LV 4% Bush 44% Unnamed Democrat 49% Dem +5
12/10/03 Survey USA Link 724 LV 3.7% Bush 53% Kerry 43% Bush +10
2/3/04 Survey USA Link 724 LV 3.7% Bush 46% Kerry 51% Dem +5
2/22/04 Epic/MRA Link 600 LV 4% Bush 45% Kerry 49% Dem +4
3/1/04 Mitchell Link LV 4% Bush 40% Kerry 46% Kerry +6
3/14/04 Rasmussen Link 500 LV 4.5% Bush 44% Kerry 48% Kerry +4
3/14/04 Marketing Resource Group Link 600 RV 4.1% Bush 47% Kerry 45% Bush +2
4/1/04 Epic/MRA Link 600 LV 4% Bush 45% Kerry 47% Kerry +2
4/4/04 Survey USA Link 536 LV 4.3% Bush 41% Kerry 51% Kerry +10
5/2/04 Survey USA Link 536 LV 4.3% Bush 43% Kerry 47% Kerry +4
5/12/04 Mitchell Link 413 LV 5% Bush 44% Kerry 40% Bush +4

Punditry: If you want to check out an example of media bias, check out the article linked for this most recent Mitchell Research poll, keeping in mind that the last Mitchell poll was done in March and showed Kerry up 6. The article is all about how the support for Bush has declined since January, with no mention of the March results. The article's title- "Michigan voters cool off on Bush, war".

Three different polling companies have done multiple Michigan polls in the past few months. In each, the most recent has been more favorable to Bush than the one before; Epic/MRA went from Kerry+4 to Kerry+2, SurveyUSA went from Kerry+10 to Kerry+4, and Mitchell went from Kerry+6 to Bush+4. Michigan is trending in Bush's direction, but for now I am calling it a Tossup.


Alabama
Electoral Votes: 9
2000 Result
Bush 56%
Gore 42%

Background: Alabama has been a reliable GOP state, only straying twice since 1960; both times it went for a southerner. Jimmy Carter carried the state, as did George Wallace.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat Margin
4/27/03 USA Polling Group Link RV 5% Bush 60% Unnamed Democrat 30 Bush +30
3/18/04 USA Polling Group Link 405 adults 5% Bush 59% Kerry 27% Bush +32
5/3/04 SurveyUSA Link 743 LV 3.7% Bush 55% Kerry 36% Bush +19
5/13/04 USA Polling Group Link 400 Adults 5% Bush 55% Kerry 33% Bush +22

Punditry: I guess I can understand that the details are not important when the President is ahead by 22 points, but was it really too much to ask for the Mobile-Register to include the percentages for each candidate? This is 10 points worse than the previous Alabama poll by the USA Polling group, so there may be some slippage, but how much is hard to say due to the large margin of error and the fact that the poll is of adults and not just registered (or likely) voters. Safe for Bush.


F Illinois
Electoral Votes: 21
2000 Result
Gore 55%
Bush 42%

Background: Before Clinton broke through, Republicans had won six straight Presidential contests in Illinois. But Clinton's win against Bush was not because of Perot; he would have carried it without him in the race. And Gore flat out spanked Bush here.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat Margin
6/9/03 Chicago Tribune NA RV 3.8% Bush 38% Unnamed Democrat 36% Bush +2
10/20/03 Chicago Tribune NA 700 RV 3.8% Bush 38% Unnamed Democrat 49% Dem +11
1/9/04 Chicago Tribune Link RV 3.8% Bush 40% Unnamed Democrat 48% Dem +8
3/3/04 Research 2000 Link 500 LV 5% Bush 36% Kerry 54% Kerry +18
3/3/04 Rasmussen Link 1500 LV 3% Bush 39% Kerry 52% Kerry +15
3/13/04 Copley News Service/Mason-Dixon Link 625 LV 4% Bush 39% Kerry 47% Kerry +8
5/12/04 Rasmussen Link 500 LV 4.5% Bush 43% Kerry 48% Kerry +5

Punditry: This has been an extremely strange election season so far. There is good economic news, and Bush loses ground as people say we are in a recession. Kerry goes on vacation, and his numbers go up. He returns to campaigning and his numbers go down. When Kerry has been sliding in the national polls, the state polls showed him gaining ground. Now, with the national polls showing Bush declining, he has been closing in various states. The last two polls in Illinois show it single digits, which is good enough for a Leaning Towards Kerry designation.

The same poll shows Barack Obama hanging onto his lead over Jack Ryan, although those numbers have yet to be published.


North Carolina
Electoral Votes: 15
2000 Result
Bush 56%
Gore 43%

Background: Since Lyndon Johnson's win here, only once have the Democrats taken Tar Heel electors. That's a bit deceptive, however, as many times it was extremely close. Carter lost to Reagan here by only two points in that nationwide blowout. Clinton lost two elections by a combined total of 5%. Yet the Clinton losses are also deceptive, in that the margins would have been considerably larger without Perot and his charts. Simply stated, like much of the south North Carolina votes Republican for President, although a southerner atop the ticket can make things interesting; not always though, as Al Gore demonstrated.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat Margin
9/16/03 Research2000 Link 600 LV 4% Bush 51% Edwards 40% Bush +11
11/15/03 Research2000 Link 600 LV 4% Bush 54% Edwards 42% Bush +12
11/25/03 Survey USA Link 563 RV 4.2% Bush 53% Kerry 39% Bush +14
11/25/03 Survey USA Link 563 RV 4.2% Bush 52% Edwards 45% Bush +7
2/26/04 Survey USA Link 654 RV 3.9% Bush 53% Kerry 42% Bush +11
3/11/04 Rasmussen Link 400 LV 3% Bush 51% Kerry 43% Bush +8
4/1/04 Bennett, Petts and Blumenthal (D) No Link LV 4% Bush 51% Kerry 44% Bush +7
5/14/04 Mason-Dixon Link LV 4% Bush 48% Kerry 41% Bush +7

Punditry: There has been remarkable consistency within the polls for North Carolina since February. The story here is that if Edwards is added to the ticket, it becomes a one point race. This gain of 6 points in the margin is right in line with the impact of a homestater on the ticket in recent elections that I noted in this article.

So will Kerry choose Edwards? I am not so certain. While he would make North Carolina competitive, does that make him a better choice than a popular Floridian, or Louisianan, or so forth? And if he is worth only 6 in his homestate, does that not imply he would be worth little outside of that state?

In any case, at least until the VP choice is named or there is a marked change in the polls, North Carolina will remain Leaning Towards Bush.


Texas
Electoral Votes: 34
2000 Result
Bush 58%
Gore 39%

Background: Carter and Humphrey won here, but Texas has become a very foreign land for the Democrat Presidential candidates.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat Margin
3/6/04 Scripps Howard Texas Poll Link 1000 RV 3% Bush 54% Kerry 35% Bush +19
5/15/04 Scripps Howard Texas Poll Link 1000 RV 3% Bush 58% Kerry 29% Bush +29

Punditry: There simply is nothing interesting to say about the polling results for Texas at this point. Safe for Bush.


Effective National Popular Results: Bush 45.7%, Kerry 43.6%

Kerry E F Bush
Safe Strong Lean Slight Tossup Slight Lean Strong Safe
DC (3) DE (3) MD (10)
K48-B43
3/24/04
IA (7)
K47-B46
4/21/04
NM (5)
B46-K45
4/1/04
AR (6)
B45-K45
5/2/04
VA (13)
B48-WC33
12/3/03
SC (8)
B52-UD36
7/28/03
AK (3)
HI (4) ME (4)
K51-B38
3/4/04
MN (10)
K50-B38
4/2/04
NH (4)
K49-B45
4/26/04
FL (27)
B46-K45
4/21/04
PA (21)
B46-K46
4/25/04
GA (15)
B47-UD43
2/4/04
MS (6)
B49-UD29
12/22/03
ND (3)
RI (4)
K53-B31
2/7/04
NY (31)
K51-B32
4/22/04
WA (11)
K46-B41
4/5/04
WI (10)
K50-B42
B50-K38
4/28/04
OR (7)
K50-B47
B44-K39
5/10/04
AZ (10)
B46-K42
5/4/04
NV (5)
B49-K38
3/17/04
SD (3)
B50-UD39
2/5/04
NE (5)
MA (12)
K54-B32
4/5/04
CT (7)
K51-B33
4/27/04
NJ (15)
K43-B37
5/4/04
- MI (17)
B44-K40
5/13/04
- TN (11)
B52-K41
3/22/04
KS (6)
B57-K39
3/4/04
WY (3)
- VT (3)
K51-B36
5/1/04
CA (55)
K46-B45
5/6/04
- - - MO (11)
B49-K42
3/23/04
IN (11)
B52-K37
3/24/04
MT (3)
B52-UD27
5/16/03
- - OH (20)
K49-B42
5/13/04
- - - CO (9)
B49-K44
4/14/04
OK (7)
B47-K35
4/1/04
ID (4)
B55-K23
3/17/04
- - IL (21)
K48-B43
5/13/04
- - - WV (5)
B49-K45
4/29/04
LA (9)
B52-K38
3/28/04
UT (5)
B67-K22
5/10/04
- - - - - - NC (15)
B47-K41
5/14/04
KY (8)
B52-K40
5/11/04
AL (9)
B55-K33
5/13/04
- - - - - - - - TX (34)
B58-K29
5/15/04
Totals
Kerry States Battleground States Bush States

23 48 142 21 56 37 84 58 69

213 114 211


Last week's quiz:
In Presidential history, what was "The Sacred Cow?"
The Sacred Cow was a Douglas VC-54C, and was the first aircraft flown in by a United States President. Franklin Delano Roosevelt rode in it exactly once.

The guess about welfare was a pretty good one, though.

This week's quiz: Which President was accused by his challenger of leaving town to dedicate a dam every time he was facing difficult or embarrassing questions?


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Alabama; US: Florida; US: Illinois; US: Kentucky; US: Michigan; US: North Carolina; US: Oregon; US: Pennsylvania; US: Texas; US: Utah; US: Wisconsin
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1 posted on 05/19/2004 4:57:53 PM PDT by Dales
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To: Neets; Coop; The G Man; nevergiveup; scan58; AuH2ORepublican; BoomerBob; Galatians513; onyx; ...

Ping


2 posted on 05/19/2004 4:58:37 PM PDT by Dales
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To: Dales

Thanks Dales!


3 posted on 05/19/2004 5:03:09 PM PDT by Momaw Nadon (Goals for 2004: Re-elect President Bush, over 60 Republicans in the Senate, and a Republican House.)
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To: Dales

I don't know. Reagan? FDR? Are multiple answers even allowed in answering the question?:)


4 posted on 05/19/2004 5:03:42 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (I cannot believe I just said that!)
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To: Dales
This week's quiz: Which President was accused by his challenger of leaving town to dedicate a dam every time he was facing difficult or embarrassing questions?

Hoover?

5 posted on 05/19/2004 5:04:04 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Dales

Hoover?


6 posted on 05/19/2004 5:06:57 PM PDT by sharktrager (Insanity: To continue repeating the same act, each time expecting a different result.)
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To: Dales

I'm very tired of living in hostile territory.


7 posted on 05/19/2004 5:08:33 PM PDT by cgk
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To: Dales
Democrats are from Venus

Right ending, wrong planet.

8 posted on 05/19/2004 5:12:21 PM PDT by Clint Williams
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To: Dales

Leopold Benjamin Jackson... Or something like that. All I know is he's that damn Texas cheat.

;)
(LBJ)


9 posted on 05/19/2004 5:13:27 PM PDT by Bogey78O (I voted for this tagline... before I voted against it.)
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To: Dales

Dales, why did you move OH all the way to "Leans for Kerry"? One poll with a 7-point lead does not a lean make. When the next poll shows Bush and Kerry tied, you will probably have to move OH two whole slots back to toss-up.


10 posted on 05/19/2004 5:14:28 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: cgk

Living in Alabama I feel as though my vote does not mean much since W is a lock here. I would love to be able to cross the state line and vote in Florida where my vote would mean something. At least my daughter lives there and I have already threatened to cut her out of the will if she and her husband don't vote for W.


11 posted on 05/19/2004 5:15:20 PM PDT by TonyM (E)
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To: Dales
You're right, Bush wins everything in his column + Florida, and he wins. Same margin and results as last week, so things certainly aren't changing much.

Would be nice to get more state polls and something that worries me even though I put FL in Bush's column, what happens if Kerry picks Bob Graham?

12 posted on 05/19/2004 5:22:19 PM PDT by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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To: Citizen of the Savage Nation

FDR? My guess since wasn't Hoover Dam finished in his term? Plus alot of public works projects, more than 1 dam was done under his terms?


13 posted on 05/19/2004 5:24:49 PM PDT by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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To: Yo-Yo

...Clinton, damn, gotta leave town again...


14 posted on 05/19/2004 5:29:02 PM PDT by gargoyle
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To: Dales

Now why do I get the feeling that Hiliary is planning on giving John F'em Ke(rr)y an Arkancide before too much longer?


15 posted on 05/19/2004 5:33:23 PM PDT by steveegg (More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than in Abu Ghraib since we took it over (thanks Peach))
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To: Clint Williams; Dales
Oh great, now we are going to have a spate of Uranus jokes.

Thanks Dales, your insights trenscend everything ABSCBSNBSPBS say combined.

16 posted on 05/19/2004 5:36:27 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: Clint Williams
Right ending, wrong planet.


17 posted on 05/19/2004 5:37:06 PM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: Citizen of the Savage Nation

I don't think ANY of these guys can help Kerry. People think Gephardt will get him Missouri. Bull.

Nor will Graham get him Florida.

Kerry is on his own...and Hitlery would only make it worse.

Someone had a great comment about her the other day....

"Hillary reminds every man of his first wife..."


18 posted on 05/19/2004 5:38:17 PM PDT by Keith (IT'S ABOUT THE JUDGES)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Simple answer- while I can't go and publish the stuff from Rasmussen's premium package, it does go into my thinking.


19 posted on 05/19/2004 5:40:17 PM PDT by Dales
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My 2 cents: Don't get mad @ me, get Glade.
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Right now W's average approval ratings is 45.1% from last 9 polls (Dem or GOP polls don't count). The max W will get over his average approval rating in a 2 way race is 1%.

So: If the election were held today, the approx election results would be.

Kerry 51.9%
W 45.6%
Nader 1.7%
Others 0.8%

W/O Nader
Kerry 52.9%
Bush 46.1%
Others 1.0%

MoE+/-1%


20 posted on 05/19/2004 5:40:58 PM PDT by KQQL (@)
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