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1 posted on 05/19/2004 8:58:20 AM PDT by Egregious Philbin
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To: Egregious Philbin

Tax everything, nothing and no one exempt.


2 posted on 05/19/2004 9:02:15 AM PDT by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: Egregious Philbin

I'm no big fan of the ultra left-wing Unitarians, but in my opinion there's no way this decision is going to legally stand in court.


3 posted on 05/19/2004 9:02:19 AM PDT by jpl ("You can go to a restaurant in New York City and meet a foreign leader."- John Kerry)
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To: Egregious Philbin
The organization "does not have one system of belief."

Let's stretch a very tiny bit: The Pope says one thing, Mel Gibson's father says another -- Hey! The Roman Catholic Church does not have one system of belief! Let the tax revenue flow, Baby!

4 posted on 05/19/2004 9:04:35 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (You can see it coming like a train on a track.)
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To: Egregious Philbin

I suppose getting an exemption for my Church of Monday Night Football is out of the question.


6 posted on 05/19/2004 9:06:12 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Egregious Philbin
presidents John Adams and John Quincy Adams were both Unitarians.

They would roll over in their graves if they saw what it has become.

7 posted on 05/19/2004 9:08:46 AM PDT by Protagoras (Control is the objective , freedom is the obstacle.)
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To: Egregious Philbin
Why do you get when you cross a Unitarian with a Jehovah's Witness?

Someone who knocks on your door and has nothing to say!
8 posted on 05/19/2004 9:08:51 AM PDT by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Egregious Philbin

This decision is totally out of line.


14 posted on 05/19/2004 9:16:31 AM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: Egregious Philbin
But the denials of the Red River Unitarian Universalist Church in Denison, the North Texas Church of Freethought in Carrollton, and an earlier denial by Sharp for the Ethical Culture Fellowship of Austin, were ordered because the organizations did not mandate belief in a supreme being.

This is not going to stand. Buddhists don't have to believe in a supreme being either. The government has a pretty big burden to overcome to say, "This isn't a religion", and this guy hasn't met it.

16 posted on 05/19/2004 9:19:02 AM PDT by RonF
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To: Egregious Philbin
The organization "does not have one system of belief."

By this logic, the Democrat party does not qualify as a political organization.

17 posted on 05/19/2004 9:21:24 AM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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It's where spacecase hippies go when they want to say they "go to church". Buncha loons.

But keeping as much money as possible away from Big Stupid Government is always a good thing.

22 posted on 05/19/2004 9:25:47 AM PDT by Hank Rearden (Is Fallujah gone yet?)
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To: Egregious Philbin

Are moon worshipers exempted?


29 posted on 05/19/2004 9:39:01 AM PDT by Ben Chad
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Does being the "High Priest of Beer" make me a church and tax-exemt?

Uh oh.

33 posted on 05/19/2004 9:42:39 AM PDT by SquirrelKing
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To: Egregious Philbin

Isn't the Unitarian Creed essentially:

The Fatherhood of God.
The Brotherhood of Man.
The Neighborhood of Boston.


34 posted on 05/19/2004 9:43:08 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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One day I got curious and cruised some official-looking web sites that claim to state what Unitarianism was all about. My impression was that their big thing is being non-judgemental - to the point that they don't have any concrete cultural values that they are trying to transmit from generation to generation. It looked more like a social club. (I looked up Freemasonry at the same time and got much the same result.)

My definition of a "religion" requires that it 1) define a set of cultural values and 2) provide a vivid and effective mechanism for transmitting them from one generation to the next. By this definition, I guess Unitarianism wouldn't qualify.

38 posted on 05/19/2004 9:54:40 AM PDT by snarkpup
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To: Egregious Philbin

Hmmm, I wonder if the Texans will apply this to the Religion of Peace® a/k/a Mohammedism.


41 posted on 05/19/2004 10:46:22 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: Egregious Philbin

Oh this going to get real interesting....and real ugly


42 posted on 05/19/2004 1:07:12 PM PDT by jnarcus
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To: Egregious Philbin

I was just reading something and remembered this post. I didn't have time to study it then, and don't now, but thought you might find the following interesting. I was speed-reading through it [i.e., meaning I have to come back later when I have more time to get the full gist of it all], and have sped through a couple of the links to where I am now reading that the Supreme Court has declared Secular Humanism a religion, and also learned that when you take an oath that ends with 'So help me God', that you are publicly professing that you are not a Christian. Scroll down the page to read about the early beliefs of the Unitarians vs. the later. The website is hosted by a man who couldn't become an attorney because he refused to take such an oath that would put him in conflict with his faith.

An article entitled 'Were the founding fathers Deists....'
http://members.aol.com/TestOath/deism.htm


I'd flag some of the others on this thread, but my windows are maxed out, and I'm typing over the thread. Sorry!


45 posted on 05/24/2004 12:26:37 PM PDT by Ethan_Allen (Gen. 32:24-32 'man'=Jesus http://www.preteristarchive.com/Jesus_is_Israel/index.html)
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To: Egregious Philbin
Its reasoning: The organization "does not have one system of belief."

The US Supreme Court will have a lot of fun with this one.

It reminds of the state unemployment agency that denied benefits to a Jehovah's Witness fired after refusing work in a munition factory, even though other Jehovah's Witnesses worked there.

The state unemployment agency said that it was a personal matter, not a religious matter, because Jehovah's Witnesses did not have a prohibition against working at munition factories.

The US Supreme Court overruled the state unemployment agency, saying that the individual conscience is supreme, and individual church members are free to pick and choose their own beliefs.

47 posted on 05/24/2004 12:39:24 PM PDT by daivid
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