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Alan Keyes speech in defense of marriage (Boston, MA)
RenewAmerica.us ^ | May 14, 2004 | Alan Keyes

Posted on 05/17/2004 4:20:41 PM PDT by Gelato

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Long speech, but well worth reading and listening to.

MP3 here

1 posted on 05/17/2004 4:20:42 PM PDT by Gelato

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To: Gelato

bump for later.

I have me a signed appreciation certificate from Keyes.

Why, oh why, can't he get a grip on himself, take speech lessons, find a political handler, and become a real player?

2 posted on 05/17/2004 4:26:32 PM PDT by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and sign up for a monthly donation.)

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To: Gelato; EternalVigilance

Bump and Ping

3 posted on 05/17/2004 4:30:33 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Our Wounded Soldiers at Walter Reed Have Yet to be Visited by John Kerry. What's he Afraid of?)

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To: Gelato

There's that possibility that, quote, "an accident" might happen, and then there you'd be with a, quote, "crisis pregnancy," and so forth and so on.

...possibility of another party, of a third life, of a third being, which would be the fruit of their relationship.

If it's all about reproduction, then do we allow 80 year old people to marry? What about women with hysterectomies? How about couples that promise the world that they shall never have children and will abort them immediately, as they have done so many times in the past?

4 posted on 05/17/2004 4:38:26 PM PDT by Mathlete

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The similarities between the Massachusetts court decision and Roe vs. Wade are more than coincidental. The liberals have found it an effective strategy to use the courts to make America in its own image, while overriding the will of the people.

The liberals then expect us to roll over and take it. Are we going to? I think Dr. Keyes is right that if we do, our republic is dead and our freedom is gone.

So, what are YOU going to do about this?

5 posted on 05/17/2004 4:38:30 PM PDT by Gelato

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To: don-o

I can't help it, I just like him.
I think he would have made a fine President and we would have gotten more mileage for the conservative movement.
I still have his faded sticker on my bumper.
I just like him.

6 posted on 05/17/2004 4:47:29 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (The Democrats would rather win the WH than the War against Islamic Extremists)

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Mathlete
What about people with Lobotomies?

8 posted on 05/17/2004 4:50:10 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (The Democrats would rather win the WH than the War against Islamic Extremists)

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Of course non-fertile couples can get married. That doesn't contradict the point that in principle, marriage between a man and a woman results in children, and that society and the government has an interest in protecting that institution. It's the principle, not the exception, that makes the rule.

9 posted on 05/17/2004 4:53:10 PM PDT by Gelato

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To: don-o

Keyes was given a special gift, but it's best used in areas other than politics, and in my opinion, more important than politics.

10 posted on 05/17/2004 4:54:40 PM PDT by bayourod (Is it just coincidence that the FR spell-checker lists a**hole as an alternative to "Tom Dashle?")

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They used to use thugs and now they use lawyers, not really a huge difference.

So true.

11 posted on 05/17/2004 4:56:49 PM PDT by Gelato

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To: TexasTransplant

I still have his faded sticker on my bumper.

Same here; though on an old car that don't run no more.

Years ago, I asked why he did not move to a solid Republican district (First Tennesse) and win a seat in the House?

12 posted on 05/17/2004 4:57:28 PM PDT by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and sign up for a monthly donation.)

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Why does society get involved? ... It's because, throughout human history, there has been an acknowledgment that, well, marriage is about family; it's about having kids.

Actually, it's about increasing our population numbers as (1) to amplify gestalt, (2) to defer invasion, and (3) since evolutionary "success" is generally defined synonymously with fecundity, by sheer numbers alone. In every case, it's really about increasing the number of friendly citizens. These seems to be the strategy of all nations that subsidize marriage. As Richard Dawkins so brilliantly conveys, it isn't all about DNA. There's the culture (meme) that evolves as well. In other words, there is no such thing as the "American" race.

Reproduction is only one method for achieving these goals. Immigration and Hegemony are others. More important than these two is to increase longevity, as in reducing the number of casualties on the battlefield (by technological superiority or tactics), as well as at home (by increasing the lifespan of humans). It is this third reason that best logically supports "gay marriage" with the "still in infancy" argument that married couples tend (more often than not) to have less sexual relationships ('one' being the ideal) than non-married couples. Since AIDS spread by promiscuity, and AIDS kills, AIDS reduces our population count, and wastes our resources both labor and material.

13 posted on 05/17/2004 5:00:44 PM PDT by Mathlete

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Anyone want to drop the Massachusetts legislature a line?

http://www.renewamerica.us/news/040509legislators.htm

Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney

Phone: (617) 725-4005
Fax: (617) 727-9725
E-mail: GOffice@state.ma.us

14 posted on 05/17/2004 5:02:05 PM PDT by Gelato

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To: Gelato

Can't finish it now but worth coming back to.

15 posted on 05/17/2004 5:02:24 PM PDT by jwalburg (Maroons for Kerry)

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A legitimate child is one with a mother and father who were married when the child was born (or when one died prior to the child's birth). An adopted child can be legitimate, regardless of the status of the birth parents, if the adoptive parents are married and are recorded as being the child's official parents.

If a child is adopted by a man and woman who are married, that man and woman will be forever known as that child's mother and father. Whether they are the biological parents is irrelevant.

No man, homosexual or otherwise, can be a mother; nor can any woman, homosexual or otherwise, be a father. Same-sex "marriage", therefore, cannot give a child legitimate parentage.

16 posted on 05/17/2004 5:03:27 PM PDT by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)

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Well that certainly explains our Government School System.

17 posted on 05/17/2004 5:08:36 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (The Democrats would rather win the WH than the War against Islamic Extremists)

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To: supercat

No man, homosexual or otherwise, can be a mother; nor can any woman, homosexual or otherwise, be a father. Same-sex "marriage", therefore, cannot give a child legitimate parentage.

So obvious, yet our society doesn't comprehend it anymore. Thanks for your insightful comments.

No society can survive when it rejects self-evident truth.

18 posted on 05/17/2004 5:12:47 PM PDT by Gelato

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Oh yeah While we are in our Government Schools, that line over there... those boys want to Marry their hands, for future Tax and Medical Benifits.

19 posted on 05/17/2004 5:12:58 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (The Democrats would rather win the WH than the War against Islamic Extremists)

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To: don-o

Why, oh why, can't he get a grip on himself, take speech lessons, find a political handler, and become a real player?

He has a grip on himself intellectually better than just about anyone I've ever seen.

Take speech lessons? You're kidding, right? He's one of the very best communicators of conservatism there is.

He is not prone to 'handling', believe me.

Depends on what you mean by a 'player'. While it is true that he has not won elective office, mainly because he hails from very liberal Maryland, he is certainly a player if you define that as someone who has moved an agenda that is critical to the future of our republic.

We could use a few million players like that.

20 posted on 05/17/2004 5:22:59 PM PDT by EternalVigilance

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