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Long speech, but well worth reading and listening to.

MP3 here


1 posted on 05/17/2004 4:20:42 PM PDT by Gelato
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To: Gelato
bump for later.

I have me a signed appreciation certificate from Keyes.

Why, oh why, can't he get a grip on himself, take speech lessons, find a political handler, and become a real player?

2 posted on 05/17/2004 4:26:32 PM PDT by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and sign up for a monthly donation.)
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To: Gelato; EternalVigilance

Bump and Ping


3 posted on 05/17/2004 4:30:33 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Our Wounded Soldiers at Walter Reed Have Yet to be Visited by John Kerry. What's he Afraid of?)
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To: Gelato
There's that possibility that, quote, "an accident" might happen, and then there you'd be with a, quote, "crisis pregnancy," and so forth and so on.

...possibility of another party, of a third life, of a third being, which would be the fruit of their relationship.

If it's all about reproduction, then do we allow 80 year old people to marry? What about women with hysterectomies? How about couples that promise the world that they shall never have children and will abort them immediately, as they have done so many times in the past?

4 posted on 05/17/2004 4:38:26 PM PDT by Mathlete
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The similarities between the Massachusetts court decision and Roe vs. Wade are more than coincidental. The liberals have found it an effective strategy to use the courts to make America in its own image, while overriding the will of the people.

The liberals then expect us to roll over and take it. Are we going to? I think Dr. Keyes is right that if we do, our republic is dead and our freedom is gone.

So, what are YOU going to do about this?

5 posted on 05/17/2004 4:38:30 PM PDT by Gelato
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To: Gelato

Can't finish it now but worth coming back to.


15 posted on 05/17/2004 5:02:24 PM PDT by jwalburg (Maroons for Kerry)
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Did anyone catch O'Reilly just now? The guest (I forget--was he from Newsweek?) had no answer for O'Reilly's question about why, if gay marriage is legal, consensual incest and polygamy cannot be.

Of course, that's because there is no answer, when you accept the idea that marriage must be legal between all persons who want it, with no morality-based restrictions.

Catch the replay tonight.

28 posted on 05/17/2004 5:40:24 PM PDT by Gelato
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"The right response when, in the army, you are given an unlawful order, is to refuse that order. The right response of a chief executive in this state and in this nation, when faced with an order by a court that he conscientiously believes violates the constitution he is sworn to respect, is to refuse their order!

And then, so that the constitution of his state and the fate of his people will not be left at the mercy of this crisis in the government, it is his responsibility to turn to the legislature and ask on behalf of the whole people that those who refuse to respect the constitutional prerogatives of the people and their representatives be removed for the sake of law, for the sake of self-government, for the sake of constitutional integrity!

The simple truth is that if the governor doesn't understand his responsibilities and refuses to act on them, if the legislature doesn't understand its responsibilities and prerogatives and refuses to act on them, then guess what? There are no checks, no balances, there is no constitution. And do you know who loses?"

This is why Judge Moore was a hero in my book.


34 posted on 05/17/2004 6:13:38 PM PDT by Revel
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BTTT for later


40 posted on 05/17/2004 6:22:35 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: *Homosexual Agenda; EdReform; scripter; GrandMoM; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; ...

Homosexual Agenda Ping + Speech By Alan Keyes For You Alan Keyes Fans.

I haven't read it yet, doing my job getting it out to you first.

I saw Keyes several years ago and really liked him, brilliant man. I hope he gets some kind of elected office or position - he would be a great public servant IMHO.

Let me know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.


46 posted on 05/17/2004 6:37:08 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Moral decay leads to anarchy which leads to totalitarianism.)
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No morality no Country.


47 posted on 05/17/2004 6:37:56 PM PDT by JamesA ( The more you try to change my convictions the more resolved I am to keep them.)
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I wonder what fraction of the marriages that end in divorce were entered into with the purpose--not forced by circumstances--of joining two families and starting a third?

That is, after all, the primary purpose of marriage; while not every marriage is required to seek that goal, I think one of the major reasons for the decay of families in this country is that people are losing sight of what marriage is really about. To accept 'same sex marriages' is to abandon any and all concept of why marriage exists in the first place.

55 posted on 05/17/2004 7:00:02 PM PDT by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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Just finished reading the whole speech, most of it out loud to someone else. Incredible mind that man has.

He makes several very valuable points that I haven't seen all together in one place. He makes it ultra clear why marriage IS INDEED about procreation and to deny that is to detroy the family and therefore society.

He makes it clear that hedonism is the wrong, not just homosexuality. And he descibes exactly why and how this is so.

He also describes how this judicial usurping of power will destroy the country unless it is checked.

I hope many people read or hear this speech. Every word is valuable. If people think it's too long, that just means that their attention spans are too short and maybe they should watch less TV.


68 posted on 05/17/2004 7:29:28 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Moral decay leads to anarchy which leads to totalitarianism.)
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This country, with the help of the left, is getting sicker and sicker as each day passes........ Lord help us!!!!!


71 posted on 05/17/2004 7:32:09 PM PDT by eeriegeno
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And that's why I call it the view of sexuality based on hedonism and self-gratification, but you and I both know that this understanding of human sexuality is not confined to same-sex couples.

Whole industries, both in the entertainment media and in the production of all kinds of contraceptive devices and pills and this and that--all based upon, what? All based upon the pursuit of this form of sexual fulfillment, to free oneself from the shadow of procreation, so that it will no longer haunt the relationship, no longer burden the relationship, no longer be there as something which calls one away from the vocation of self-gratification toward a vocation that requires responsibility and self-sacrifice.

Anyone noticing a theme emerging here?

(The Church has ALWAYS been right on contraception. Here is just another reason why.)

94 posted on 05/17/2004 8:15:15 PM PDT by Polycarp IV (PRO-LIFE orthodox Catholic--without exception, without compromise, without apology. Any questions?)
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To: Gelato

Alan Keyes Bump !


105 posted on 05/17/2004 8:38:56 PM PDT by ChadGore (Vote Bush. He's Earned It.)
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ping


123 posted on 05/17/2004 9:27:33 PM PDT by Jonx6
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read or listen later


131 posted on 05/17/2004 10:39:02 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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later


137 posted on 05/18/2004 4:14:39 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Fear not, for those who are with us are more than those who are with them." (2 Kings 6:16-17)
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Just think of the difference between NH and MA. In NH we have in the law a definition of marriage as that between a man amd a woman. The great and general court just passed law to not recognize homosexual marriage originating elsewhere. Concord is only about 85 miles from Boston. How can NH be so different?


143 posted on 05/18/2004 5:49:43 AM PDT by Final Authority
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Hope there was a big crowd, of course no media coverage here in Illinois. But I expect to see our marriage laws challenged this summer.


163 posted on 05/18/2004 9:04:58 PM PDT by TheEaglehasLanded
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