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Sorensen booed at Oswego graduation (JFK hack disses Bush - gets booed...)
Syracuse.com/The Post-Standard ^ | May 16, 2004 | Delen Goldberg

Posted on 05/16/2004 5:45:34 PM PDT by veronica

A keynote speaker at State University College at Oswego's graduation ceremony Saturday was drowned out by booing, hissing and foot-stomping after he criticized President Bush.

Theodore C. Sorensen, a lawyer and author who served as special counsel to President Kennedy, never said Bush's name. But he took the president to task for going on vacation after warnings of terrorist attacks surfaced, declaring war without allied support and gloating about a victory.

Sorensen compared the ways Kennedy handled the Cuban Missile Crisis in October 1962 to the methods Bush used to handle the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

"President Kennedy did not proceed unilaterally, without obtaining the support of our allies and without recourse to the United Nations," he said.

As Sorensen spoke, one student's mother stood up and ordered him off the stage. A graduate yelled, "Are you serious?" but another quickly chimed in, "Let the man finish his speech."

The noise got so loud that Sorensen, who spoke into a microphone, at times could not be heard. More than half his speech was overpowered by audience rumbling and shouting.

College President Deborah F. Stanley moved next to Sorensen as he spoke through the chaos. Stanley thanked the audience for being respectful "in a place where ideas, information and understanding reign supreme." She said after the ceremony that her comment was as much a criticism as a compliment.

"People, I think, understand that Mr. Sorensen has led a political and policy-oriented life," Stanley said. "But the way he chose to express that was, perhaps, surprising."

"It was just like a slap in the face," said Mary Sheldon, of Lorraine, Jefferson County, whose daughter Johanna Besaw graduated Saturday with an English degree. "We came here to be supportive of our kids and their achievements. It wasn't the time or the place for politics."

Sheldon's son, David Dreier, 25, received notice Thursday that he will be shipping out to Iraq with the National Guard. The family left Romney Field House, where the ceremony was held, midway through Sorensen's speech.

Charlie Vecchio, 25, a former army soldier originally from Manlius, disagreed with Sorensen's views but had more of a problem with the audience.

"People's reactions were a little outrageous," he said. "I have friends who died so we could say what we want. That's part of why our soldiers are over there, for our right to freedom of speech."


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: booed; bushhaters; commencement; jfk; sorensen
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace

It was JKF that had the planes on the catapults for air support only to turn chicken and let the cubans die on the beach.


81 posted on 05/16/2004 6:32:01 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: samantha
So good to read your remarks, really.

I'm from upstate NY originally (Canajoharie: know where that is?) and have lived here in Houston since 77; West Point grad.

Great...really great...to know that the common-sense, earthy values of rural NY are alive and well.

Blessings to you and yours.

82 posted on 05/16/2004 6:32:50 PM PDT by Airborne Longhorn
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To: chookter
We are in a Cold Civil War. I no longer just disagree with them. I fervently hate them and want to see them destroyed... Broken...

I say ... JIHAD- JIHAD- JIHAD... 72 Swedish Bikini team members for those that join the FATWA against the libs.... YEAH!!!!! ROFLMAO.../sarcasm


83 posted on 05/16/2004 6:34:41 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is .)
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To: Unam Sanctam

I'm glad you're interested in being even-handed between the left and the right. It speaks very well about you.

I'd say that if Mr. Sorensen was invited to make a political speech, and if individuals could choose whether or not to attend, then the audience should be respectful and let the speaker have his say -- left or right.

But a graduation is mandatory, and it's supposed to be a special day for grads and their families -- sounds like Mr. Sorensen was way off base, and my sympathies with with the crowd.


84 posted on 05/16/2004 6:35:22 PM PDT by 68skylark (.)
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To: Unam Sanctam
Say W or Rummy gave a commencement speech and was drowned out, you know you would be cursing the audience.

Do you really think either of them would take the opportunity to criticize the dems at a commencement speech?

85 posted on 05/16/2004 6:37:08 PM PDT by stands2reason ( During the cola wars, France was occupied by Pepsi for six months.)
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To: veronica

I really like this article about the crowd reaction. Thanks for the post -- you made my evening!


86 posted on 05/16/2004 6:37:26 PM PDT by 68skylark (.)
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To: veronica

Great audience and a great day for fairness.


87 posted on 05/16/2004 6:39:55 PM PDT by eleni121 (Preempt and Prevent---then Destroy)
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To: veronica

Just another example of Liberals using our colleges to push their left wing, socialist agenda for personal gain


88 posted on 05/16/2004 6:40:39 PM PDT by RepublicanHostageinCalif (if you don't know what Dems can do just look @ Calif)
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To: Unam Sanctam

I disagree, conservatives have had their good manners used against them for decades, the Sorneson's of the world have literally banned conservatives from College campuses. This crowd drew attention to the fact that we are tired of a one way street when it comes to free speech. Liberals will defend disruption of conservative speakers on the grounds of free speech. We have to both play by the same rules or there is no free speech!


89 posted on 05/16/2004 6:41:58 PM PDT by ronnieb
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To: Nick Danger

I don't know what passes for passive womanhood in your life, but the man in my life would have been proud.


90 posted on 05/16/2004 6:43:03 PM PDT by eleni121 (Preempt and Prevent---then Destroy)
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To: Unam Sanctam
We have this conversation every year:  there's no "Freedom of Speech" issue at a graduation ceremony.

The ceremony is a time for families and graduates to celebrate the lives ahead. If someone wants to spit in their faces by ruining their day with thier piss-ant political beliefs, then they deserve to be booed off the stage.

It's exactly like giving a toast at a wedding:  "Even if you are an asshole, don't be one. The wedding isn't about you."

91 posted on 05/16/2004 6:43:13 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: veronica

That's excellent.

Good kids.


I have a watermelon 15 year old but even she knows who the bad guys are and who's leading the charge and why he is the best choice even though it conflicts with her neophyte social views.


92 posted on 05/16/2004 6:44:01 PM PDT by wardaddy (This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
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To: samantha

Sounds like wonderful people in that area of NY. They had every right to show their displeasure at Sorenson's using their graduation as a political forum.

Just days before the election 2000 I went to a book festival in FL. The speaker, a well known enviromentalist was supposed to be talking about his book on Alaska; but he began by bashing GHWB, GWB and JEB as destroyers of the environment.

About 50 people, including me, walked out of the auditorium in protest of his politicising the book festival. Now I wish we had stayed and raised a fuss. If something similar happens at the same book festival this November....I will not leave but will speak up and hope that others join me!


93 posted on 05/16/2004 6:44:23 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (One good term deserves another! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: Unam Sanctam

Speaking out against what he was saying is exactly the point. He has the right to say it and they have the right to shout him down. Where in the constitution does it say that when a moron gets up to speak, all listeners lose their 1st amendment rights? Conservatives have had this done to them for years, and one of the only real comebacks I've seen or heard was Nelson Rockefeller in 75 when he flipped off the obnoxious audience and it was caught on camera - a truly great moment in free speech.


94 posted on 05/16/2004 6:45:53 PM PDT by RJS1950
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To: Unam Sanctam
I think the behavior of the crowd is a disgrace

At least he was able to take the stage without protests. David Horowitz should be so lucky........

Bout time the lib prima donnas get a taste of their own medicine......

I commend the crowd in taking a stand against a guest speaker whose speech ended up as a self serving attempt to use his public platform to voice his political agenda........

I don't care what you say, I commend the audience for finally taking a stand against the socialist propagandists.......

95 posted on 05/16/2004 6:46:17 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Kerry for president)
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To: veronica
Liberals think they can turn every event into a Bush-hating fest. They never stop politicizing, and I am glad he got called on the carpet.

It's good to see that there's enough people there to make it tough for a liberal to attack this president.

96 posted on 05/16/2004 6:47:58 PM PDT by alrea
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To: sinkspur

Remember the Senator Mondale political rally disguised as a funeral? It was so shameful that Mondale lost the election. Even the normal group of cads blushed.

I would be deeply offended sitting through a political speech at a graduation. I hope I still have freedom of speech in expressing my appreciation (or lack thereof).


97 posted on 05/16/2004 6:48:37 PM PDT by sine_nomine (Protect the weakest of the weak - the unborn babies.)
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To: Unam Sanctam

While I may disagree with the crowd's manners, I'm heartened to see that students aren't putting up with this crap.


98 posted on 05/16/2004 6:48:51 PM PDT by jaime1959
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To: Unam Sanctam
I have every right to whine. It's called free speech.

Yes you do and I have every right to ignore you. Here, have some cheese.........

99 posted on 05/16/2004 6:50:57 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Kerry for president)
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To: veronica

The audience should have thrown his sorry a#$ off the stage and off the campus.IMHO


100 posted on 05/16/2004 6:51:23 PM PDT by solo gringo (Always Ranting Always Rite)
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