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2004 Crop Circle Season Live Thread
Crop Circle News ^ | Sunday, May 16, 2004

Posted on 05/16/2004 10:10:33 AM PDT by Momaw Nadon

First Significant UK formation of 2004 spotted

On May 3, near Deacon Hill in Bedfordshire, UK, the first significant formation of the year has been spotted in a flowering field of oil seed rape.

The formation is similar in design to the 2003 Locust Grove, Ohio formation that appeared close to the Serpent Mound earthwork.

Although it has been raining rather steadily, since being spotted, the formation has been inspected, and there have been some details that have emerged which may indicate the formation may be not have been a human mechanically-made one.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arkansas; art; circle; circles; crop; cropcircle; cropcircles; formation; italy; notalivethread; poland; season; uk
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To: TigersEye
[With basic mathematics, rope, and wood boards.]

I have heard that convincingly debunked as impossible with the larger more complicated designs.

Ooh, *this* should be entertaining. Please present this "convincing debunking" which shows that human production of a particular pattern would be "impossible".

61 posted on 05/16/2004 11:37:10 AM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: TigersEye
"Whatever happened to intelligent response?"

You tell me oh magnificent one.

You ask eight questions ,

"Has any man ever been caught in the act of making one?

"How are they made?"

"Why are they made?"

"Who comes up with the designs and what do they mean if anything?"

"How many men does it take to make one like this one and how long does it take?"

"How many people worldwide are involved in making crop circles and why has no one ever ratted out the perpetraters?"

... because you are either to lazy to do the research, or don't really care about the answers, and I'm at fault for suggesting Google?

62 posted on 05/16/2004 11:38:50 AM PDT by G.Mason (A President is best judged by the enemies he makes when he has really hit his stride…Max Lerner)
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To: TigersEye
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63 posted on 05/16/2004 11:40:58 AM PDT by Long Cut ("Fightin's commenced, Ike, now get to fightin' or get outta the way!"...Wyatt Earp, in Tombstone)
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To: TheLurkerX
I'd love to know how these get made in the hundreds all over the world.

By 100+ pranksters. Do you likewise love to know how spray-painted graffiti get made in the millions all over the world?

It's interesting to note that the number, location, and timing of crop-circle appearances follow the same pattern as the spread of any other fad. For example, local outbreaks of crop circles follow local media coverage of prior crop circles.

64 posted on 05/16/2004 11:41:19 AM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: null and void
Mickey Mouse?

Looks more like Hadji to me.


65 posted on 05/16/2004 11:42:21 AM PDT by Friend of thunder (No sane person wants war, but oppressors want oppression.)
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To: DreadCthulhu
I note that the comparably simple design that the MIT guys made has a path into it from outside the field. It also doesn't say how long they took to make it or if they did it in the dead of night. It shows a pic of them in broad daylight. The obvious conclusion here is that 'real' crop circle makers are far more sophisticated than MIT juniors in aeronautics and astronautics, have more technical resources available to them and have spread their techniques of sowing iron molecules and seed deformation to circle makers around the world without letting word of it get out of their inner sanctum of pranksters.

Does our premiere school of science have that far to catch up with the jokesters of the world? Or is this what serious engineering grads do for kicks once they have that Masters Degree in hand?

66 posted on 05/16/2004 11:44:54 AM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
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To: TigersEye
This is the site of one group of circle makers including the 2003 examples. Apparently many of them are commissioned by TV, AD agencies, film makers, and newspapers.
67 posted on 05/16/2004 11:45:56 AM PDT by walwyn
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To: Long Cut
They do a LOT of commissioned work.

That's impressive. A lot of work went into that so I'm not surprised that they want to be payed for it. It's not near as complicated or neatly done as some though. Some people are really busting their butts just for a thrill it seems to me.

68 posted on 05/16/2004 11:50:53 AM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
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To: TigersEye
Hey, people have been doing that (busting their butts for a thrill) since the dawn of humanity. If not for that quality in humans, think of the inventions we might not have seen.

How long did the Wright Brothers bust their butts before they invented the airplane, which they were told was impossible? Neither of them were scientists, either.

What about space exploration? It, too was considered impossible once. Boiled down, we really only did it out of curiosity. The benefits flowed from there.

The Pharoahs spend years building the Pyramids soley to have a nice mausoleum.

Humans will expend a LOT of effort on some things which, at the time, might seem trivial.

69 posted on 05/16/2004 11:58:25 AM PDT by Long Cut ("Fightin's commenced, Ike, now get to fightin' or get outta the way!"...Wyatt Earp, in Tombstone)
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To: Long Cut
Cripes! We've been to the moon and space, to the depths of the ocean, mapped the human genome, and a host of other accomplishments...

I never said or even suggested that crop circles couldn't be manmade. Can't speak for anyone else. The accomplishments you mention above weren't done by a handful of people working without support in secret. That's what seems unlikely.

What amazes me is how provoked so many people seem to be by the mere asking of logical questions. Some (not you) seem to want to shut down any critical inquiry from the get go. That's a superstitious mindset in my POV.

70 posted on 05/16/2004 11:59:23 AM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
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To: All
Here are a couple of nice ones from previous years:


71 posted on 05/16/2004 12:00:00 PM PDT by Momaw Nadon (Goals for 2004: Re-elect President Bush, over 60 Republicans in the Senate, and a Republican House.)
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To: Ichneumon
"Simply bent" is easy -- when young and fresh many crop plants will bend instead of breaking. Duh.

Don't garden much do you?

72 posted on 05/16/2004 12:01:40 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
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To: raybbr

So France would have... crepe circles.

Or, just as fitting, crap circles.


73 posted on 05/16/2004 12:03:43 PM PDT by kenth
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To: Long Cut

Could you imagine the furor if the Wright Brothers decided their invention couldn't possible make them any money? What would have happened if they had decided to keep it a secret?
I can only imagine what could have happened if they decided to pull some pranks by dressing up a Flyer with a body that portrayed something.


74 posted on 05/16/2004 12:04:25 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems.)
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To: Ichneumon
[With basic mathematics, rope, and wood boards.]

Ooh, *this* should be entertaining. Please present this "convincing debunking" which shows that human production of a particular pattern would be "impossible".

Entertain me and show me how you leaped from "rope and wood boards" to "human production?" Put down your Cracker Jacks box and think hard on how to stretch the chasm from a specific to a broad generality like that.

75 posted on 05/16/2004 12:06:54 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
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To: TigersEye

I thought the first one looked like an Arab in a turban.

...in a flowering field of oil seed rape.

Alien retribution for the Abu Ghraib prison scandal, no doubt.

76 posted on 05/16/2004 12:09:50 PM PDT by shezza
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To: TigersEye
Both the Wright Brothers and Henry Ford built their inventions and worked in relative secrecy, without support. So, too did Alexander Graham Bell and, in his early years, Thomas Edison. Oh, and Nikola Tesla worked alone as well.

All I'm saying is that, just because something SEEMS unlikely, doesn't mean that it IS. It is a common thing in our modern world to assume that individuals, without some "help", cannot accomplish great things, or flights of fancy. However, there is abundant evidence to the contrary.

I've no fault with your asking honest questions of logic. That's why I provided the answers. You seem willing to accept them.

What drives me nuts is when others see the same evidence and discount it, mostly because of the false "researchers" and other Art Bell types, and their own wish to believe the myths over the truth.

Hey, at some point, we all had to give up believing in Santa Clause.

77 posted on 05/16/2004 12:10:17 PM PDT by Long Cut ("Fightin's commenced, Ike, now get to fightin' or get outta the way!"...Wyatt Earp, in Tombstone)
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To: G.Mason
... because you are either to lazy to do the research, or don't really care about the answers,

It sure has hit some nerves that I would ask some logical questions on this chat board. But I have gotten some interesting answers, some good links and some food for thought. It beats diving into the morass of a Google search with no interaction. (which is what most people come to FR for. Why a close minded loudmouth like you is here who knows?). I didn't put a gun to anyone's head to answer me.

... and I'm at fault for suggesting Google?

Fault? No. Just your usual nasty unhelpful self.

78 posted on 05/16/2004 12:12:44 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
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To: Long Cut

Thank you for those links. Interesting group. Nice website too.


79 posted on 05/16/2004 12:14:34 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
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To: Momaw Nadon

Is this for a television show? Is it on Discover or TLC?


80 posted on 05/16/2004 12:16:15 PM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (I am trying to stop an outbreak here and you're driving the monkey to the airport.)
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