Posted on 05/16/2004 10:10:33 AM PDT by Momaw Nadon
First Significant UK formation of 2004 spotted
On May 3, near Deacon Hill in Bedfordshire, UK, the first significant formation of the year has been spotted in a flowering field of oil seed rape.
The formation is similar in design to the 2003 Locust Grove, Ohio formation that appeared close to the Serpent Mound earthwork.
Although it has been raining rather steadily, since being spotted, the formation has been inspected, and there have been some details that have emerged which may indicate the formation may be not have been a human mechanically-made one.
Crip circles.
I'm positive some are made by humans, but are THAT many people in the world designing crop circles all over the globe?
*groan*
Then they wouldn't be called "crop circles" would they?
These "Artists" call them "crop circles" technically they amount to Vandleism (tagging a farmers field).
Yes
I have heard that convincingly debunked as impossible with the larger more complicated designs.
The makers come up with the designs; some have meaning (some have been used as advertisements!)
I have never seen a pic of one used as an advertisement or of any known symbol from human history. I'll check the site you gave address to.
Since it's not a major crime, there is no reason to "rat out" anyone.
I didn't mean that in the sense that a crime was committed but I would in fact think that farmers don't appreciate it and it would be a crime to destroy their property. I used the term only as a manner of speaking since their origins have created so much interest. One would think the creators would take credit, give interviews, write articles and so on and on ...
Some farmers actually agree to let them do it. As far as the debunking goes, the makers have actually filmed themselves doing it, so you'll have to check those debunkers. You might be dealing with some Art Bell types there.
The makers HAVE given interviews, taken credit, and have written articles. Start at with Circlemakers, and go from there.
I'd love to know how these get made in the hundreds all over the world.
It would be extremely difficult to plot out a complicated design amidst crops and then execute the flattening of the crops accurately without setting up transits, running guide lines, pulling lines with expanding or diminishing arcs as in a French Curve (as some CS designs have) and leaving a huge mess of plants disturbed and ground trodden outside the designe itself. That sort of thing may be evident in some CS's but not in many that I have looked at. (in pics. never saw one firsthand) And all this is accomplished without being noticed, spending hours with flashlights in a field.
"Has any man ever been caught in the act of making one?"Etc.
Yes. They've even been filmed doing it."How are they made?"
With basic mathematics, rope, and wood boards.
Spoiler! :-/
Whatever happened to Google?
Whatever happened to intelligent response?
There are a variety of tricks crop-circle makers use that are really simple, but produce results that can seem freaky. For example, bent but unbroken stalks can be made by attatching a board to your foot, and pushing the stalks sideways, then down.
Here is a bit on some MIT guys who make them. http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/tt/2002/oct09/crops.html
For artistic reasons, for a challenge, and for fun.
And for attention, and for financial gain (instant tourist attraction, etc.), and for getting a laugh out of the hordes of "paranormalists" who declare that the prank "couldn't possibly" have been made by any process known to man.
Etc.
"If human pranksters made the formation... they would have to average one circle every 2 minutes and 20 seconds - to say nothing of laying out the whole design and executing it flawlessly. If people made it, they should be running the government, things would get done quickly and done right, for a change!"Peter Sorensen writing about the DNA crop circle in: Amateur Astronomy Aug/Sep 96
I'm sure there are guys who would love to take credit for this. Algore maybe?
I'd love to know how these get made in the hundreds all over the world.
They do a LOT of commissioned work.
We've even heard that about the Pyramids. Seems some people sell the human mind and ingenuity very short.
Cripes! We've been to the moon and space, to the depths of the ocean, mapped the human genome, and a host of other accomplishments. why should making cicle designs in crops be so difficult?
I've read a number of the "reports" of such "phenomena". I have yet to see one that rises above "true believers seeing what they want to see in the test results".
Furthermore, a lot of the crop circle nuts (excuse me, "researchers") have little or no expertise in the testing methods they're attempting to use, or are working way out of their field (no pun intended), etc. Mostly they're a bunch of overenthusiastic amateurs frantically looking for something "special" about the flattened crops -- and if you look for something long and hard enough, you can find it, whether there's actually anything there or not.
Also, how is it that in some formations, the stalks are broken at the base...leaving little to the imagination as to how they are bent...but on other formations, not a single stalk shows any sign of damage at the base...
Please provide a source for the amazing claim that "not a single stalk" shows "any" sign of damage. These kinds of claims are common among "paranormalists", but almost inevitably fade away when someone tries to substantiate them.
they are simply bent and look as if they grew that way.
"Simply bent" is easy -- when young and fresh many crop plants will bend instead of breaking. Duh.
"Look as if they grew that way" sounds like another one of the overblown claims or those that "grow in the telling" (e.g. "bent but not broken" morphs into "just like they had grown that way" after a few retellings).
Just curious how some folks account for these anomalies in an overnight, man-made formation.
In short, sloppy methods and sloppy reporting by the overenthusiastic.
I have yet to find any amazing claim about crop circles that didn't fade into the mundane the closer you looked into it.
Read the whole site. They lay out their methodology quite well.
Heck, they've even figured out how to make money doing it!
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