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ANN COULTER AND AL FRANKEN JUST DUKED IT OUT IN HARTFORD
self | 05/14/04 | Self

Posted on 05/14/2004 9:36:15 PM PDT by RaceBannon

I just returned from a debate between Ann Coulter and Al Franken held at the Bushnell Auditorium in Hartford, Connecticut.


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Certainly a spirited debate, but not as good as I hoped, and for the reasons I will post below.

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I arrived at the Bushnell and met Nutmeg and her handsome Husband Zelig, and we entered on time. Unfortunately, I could not bring in the video camera, so I will have to rely on memory for this one: it was just too dark to take notes!

The format was a question and answer and response discussion, with Steve Roberts the moderator; Cokie Roberts' husband.

It startd off with a question to Ann on what she would least lke to talk about or reveal about herself.

She deflected the question to Al, and he went into some slow, deep discussion that led to some talk about his mom who recently passed away, Paul Wellstone and the funeral, and whatever came to his mind!

It was some sort of a self confession of sorts, he droned on, I remarked it was like a 12 step meeting.

As the debate moved on, one tactic Franken used a lot was to interrupt Ann often. Also, the crowd was quite negative against Ann in the orchestra seats, while the 3 of us Freepers in the balcony were quite defending of Annie!

In general, because I didn't write it down much, I saw how the cameras that showed each speaker when they spoke, favored Franken completely.

When Franken spoke, the camera was always on him, but when Ann spoke, it flashed to Franken often while she spoke, and then the crowd would react to his facial expressions and shout down Ann's answers.

Franken did make some intelligent points in his speech, but they were the repetitions of the typical liberal speech. I wished I could have given Ann some points on some things like Franken repeating the lie that this war was won on Clinton's War machjine, but, I was in the balcony, not the front row.

Franken contradicted himself a few times, quite obviously, in that he said more troops should have been used to fight the Iraq war, yet he was against the war itself.

Due to the abuse the lower seats gave Ann, I have o give the debate to Frranken, though, not because he earned it, he did do well, but he did not earn it, Ann lost it to the crowd which came in against her heavily. She stood her ground mightily, but the use of the camera showing Franken's face when she spoke, the crowd shouting her down when she tried to give details to her answers, Franken quoting single sentences from her book that the crowd would not let her explain in detail with any respect, that is what lost it for her, not her answers or efforts.

Franken was funny at times, I have to admit, and he warmed up to the audience quite well.

Ann was in hostile territory all night, though, and not allowed to fight her fight. Franken cut her off many times, the camera mocking her, the hostile crowd...

1 posted on 05/14/2004 9:36:16 PM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: RaceBannon

Just goes to show our conservative lady had a lot more class then their liberal lady.


2 posted on 05/14/2004 9:39:17 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: RaceBannon; kdf1; AMERIKA; Lancey Howard; MudPuppy; SMEDLEYBUTLER; opbuzz; Snow Bunny; ...
Bump for Annie!

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At the end of the sesion, there were index cards asking the speakers questions. One guy, Dave Windsor, asked Annie to marry Him! She politely said no!

I told her later, she better say no, she has to marry me!!

3 posted on 05/14/2004 9:39:53 PM PDT by RaceBannon (VOTE DEMOCRAT AND LEARN ARABIC FREE!!)
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To: RaceBannon

Laura Ingraham (the "other blond") would have kicked Franken's stupid @$$ all over the stage. Sometimes Ann just doesn't seem to improvise very well. Ingraham is tactically smarter, but i think that Ann is better Strategically. That is to say that Laura is quicker on her feet, but Ann has better Planning.


4 posted on 05/14/2004 9:44:53 PM PDT by Calvinist_Dark_Lord (I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper)
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord

Great Ann Pics! You made my night!


5 posted on 05/14/2004 9:46:36 PM PDT by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: nuconvert

PING!


6 posted on 05/14/2004 9:48:13 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (John ''Fedayeen" sKerry - the Mullahs' regime candidate)
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To: RaceBannon

LoL, I know you like her so much! Wish you good luck!


7 posted on 05/14/2004 9:49:06 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (John ''Fedayeen" sKerry - the Mullahs' regime candidate)
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To: RaceBannon
What I can't understand is why Ann Coulter, or any brilliant conservative like herself, would waste their time debating a mental midget like Al Franken?

Al Franken is nothing but a liberal Shock Jock that has nothing factual to back up his ridiculous accusations or his positions on the issues. He's just a bomb throwing leftist maggot who can't even call himself a washed up Hollywood Liberal, because was good enough to be considered washed up. The guy is a total loser and should be ignored, just like he is on Air America

8 posted on 05/14/2004 9:52:33 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Our Injured Soldiers at Walter Reed Have Yet to be Visited by John Kerry. What's he Afraid of?)
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To: RaceBannon
Hartford is enemy territory - she might as well tried to debate the Berg butchers.

I don't think we do ourselves, the right, any favors by debating the left in their own territory. Look at the TV "debates" on every talk show - two and three liberals to a token conservative. And at least half the time they pick a conservative that is not telegenic and somewhat inarticulate....Bob Novak comes to mind.

They can only excell when the odds are rigged. Lets stop giving them the odds. Lets play on neutral, or better, our turf - where we know the emotion of the crowd will be at least even or better.

The other thing we have to do a better job of is discrediting the leftist media.....they are ripe for intense critiques of their balance. I think a program devoted only to exposing the left's media enabled lies would be a ratings winner. Not easy work - but worth the effort.

9 posted on 05/14/2004 9:53:09 PM PDT by HardStarboard ( Wesley...gone. Hillary......not gone enough!)
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To: txzman

you're welcome...those are my pics! :)


10 posted on 05/14/2004 9:53:48 PM PDT by RaceBannon (VOTE DEMOCRAT AND LEARN ARABIC FREE!!)
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To: MJY1288
because wasn't good enough
11 posted on 05/14/2004 9:54:03 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Our Injured Soldiers at Walter Reed Have Yet to be Visited by John Kerry. What's he Afraid of?)
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To: RaceBannon

Sooo, the media war drags on.
Ann Coulter is one fine intelligent lady with good values .
Franken is a liberal fried fruitcake from Saturday Night Live.


12 posted on 05/14/2004 9:54:10 PM PDT by Freesofar (Thank You to our Troops for defending us day and night)
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To: RaceBannon

bump


13 posted on 05/14/2004 9:54:22 PM PDT by prophetic
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To: RaceBannon

Thank you thank you thank you


14 posted on 05/14/2004 9:55:08 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: MJY1288

What I can't understand is why Ann Coulter, or any brilliant conservative like herself, would waste their time debating a mental midget like Al Franken?




She probably got paid really well. This is, after all, what she does for a living.


15 posted on 05/14/2004 9:57:43 PM PDT by kms61
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To: RaceBannon

Someone oughta feed that gal some taters!
Except for that, she's perfect!


16 posted on 05/14/2004 10:00:17 PM PDT by djf
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To: MJY1288
He did try to hold his own, but too often he stole 5 or 7 minutes to give an answer that involved a personal anecdote that had nothing to do with the topic, and that played on people's hearts.

He brought up the wellstone funeral 4 times!

He called Ann a liar for HER quoting of Tom Daschle's comments in his book that Trent Lott got bood at the funeral, then tried to make a bet with her that Lott was NEVER BOOED OFF THE STAGE at the funeral...Ann tried to get it back on topic, repeating that she was QUOTING Daschle's comment in Daschle's book, and tried to make the wager that this snippet was in Daschle's book, but Franken insisted the bet be on whether Lott was booed off the stage.

I believe Ann tied to explain how Daschle's book recounted that Lott was booed away from the funeral for certain, but she did not insist on the detail of Lott being booed off the stage, but Franken held to the stage part for his bet.

Ann tried to keep it to the facts, like any thinking person would, but Franken played it well, he kept it on emotion, he kept it on him being a victim, his loss of his mother, his trips for the USO, his slant of facts, the crowd just refusing to listen to Annie counter what he said.

17 posted on 05/14/2004 10:03:47 PM PDT by RaceBannon (VOTE DEMOCRAT AND LEARN ARABIC FREE!!)
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To: kms61
I don't think she is very good at debating, She refuses to cut off those who cut her off in mid speech. But she is one of the best at puting the Liberals in their place when she puts her pen to paper.

Her book "Treason" was both informative and a laugh riot in the way she trashed liberals

18 posted on 05/14/2004 10:03:55 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Our Injured Soldiers at Walter Reed Have Yet to be Visited by John Kerry. What's he Afraid of?)
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To: RaceBannon

SAD.

SIGH.

THANKS for your kind report.

The KOMMIE SOCIALISTS ALWAYS LIKE TO FIGHT WITH A TOTALLY STACKED DECK AND THEN TO FIGHT DIRTY ON TOP OF THAT!

Sheesh.


19 posted on 05/14/2004 10:06:07 PM PDT by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: RaceBannon
I can't stand to even look at Franken, he reminds me of the someone who could easily get a contract to play the part of a GAY "Joker" in the next "Batman" sequel
20 posted on 05/14/2004 10:08:55 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Our Injured Soldiers at Walter Reed Have Yet to be Visited by John Kerry. What's he Afraid of?)
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