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Shock of war hits home for America's 20-somethings
Dallas Morning News ^ | 05-14-04 | Associated Press

Posted on 05/14/2004 2:41:26 PM PDT by The Lumster

CHICAGO - For 20-somethings, this is their war now -- the first they've experienced as adults, the one in which they are major players.

Graphic images from Iraq are being circulated on their medium, the Internet, riveting a generation sometimes criticized for being disengaged. And many of those images involve people their age, among them 26-year-old Nick Berg, whose horrific death was captured on video -- as well as young American soldiers mugging for the camera alongside naked, hooded Iraqi prisoners.

"It's the first time we can't just point a finger at a leader and say 'You did this wrong' and instead have to say 'We're doing this wrong,"' says Sarah McAuley, a 24-year-old who lives in San Francisco. "The people shown abusing Iraqi prisoners are me, or at least not as distinguishable from me as some."

McAuley saw the first photos showing abuse of Iraqi prisoners on a TV at her gym. Soon after, she fired off an entry for her Web log, describing how she felt "sad, ashamed and disappointed."

The searing images have had that effect on many Americans. But some experts believe they will have particular influence on this generation and its view of the war.

"Words have a power to affect your mind and to get your brain waves going," says Matthew Felling, the 30-year-old spokesman for the Center for Media and Public Affairs, a Washington-based media watchdog. "But an image -- and a visceral one at that -- tugs at your heart. And that is the language that Generation X and Y speak more than any other age groups."

Increasingly, the Web has played a big part in that.

Internet company Terra Lycos reported that, for the first time since it started, searches for prisoner abuse images last week propelled the war in Iraq to the top of its "Top 10 Search Term" list. Earlier this week, the company said interest shifted notably to Berg, whose captors posted the video of his slaying on the Web.

An entry posted on the Web site Live Journal about the first prison abuse photos also has drawn more than 1,200 responses in recent days -- many of them from young people.

"I think a lot of the reaction, particularly among kids, is a struggling to understand these horrors and put them in context," says Ryan Brenizer, a 25-year-old New Yorker who regularly posts his thoughts on Live Journal. "I got into political discussions online largely because it was fun, but none of this is fun or about entertainment -- it's about grappling with an often scary, changing world."

Then there's the speed with which these war images are being circulated, says Abe Peck, a journalism professor at Northwestern University.

"It's this media stream that 20-somethings and certainly 'teen-somethings' live in -- and that just accelerates everything," he says.

Access to such technology makes the Vietnam conflict -- dubbed the nation's first "living room war" due to greater access to TV images -- seem like the Dark Ages. Now it's instant war, in real time.

"It's coffins at Dover," Felling says. "It's Fallujah, bodies dangling. It's a snapshot of Pat Tillman (the 27-year-old former NFL player killed in Afghanistan).

"It just builds a momentum of its own."

Erin Bechill, a 22-year-old Chicagoan, thinks that's true.

She remembers walking with a good friend recently and passing newspaper boxes filled with images of the Iraqi prison photos. And though their political views differed -- she's more conservative, while he's more left-leaning -- they agreed about the photos' meaning.

"We both saw them as a sign that this war has reached a tipping point," Bechill says. "It's time to bring our troops home."

Despite all the attention these latest war images are getting, there remain a few who still don't follow the war much.

"To me, the war is just kind of like another show on television," says Chris Urban, a 28-year-old from St. Louis who works in magazine distribution. "I try to check in on it a couple times a week. But it doesn't have much bearing on my life."

And as awful as they are, he says he's not shocked by these latest war images.

"It's part of war," he says, adding that there are plenty of other atrocities that never get this kind of attention because there are no photos or video.

Still others, including 24-year-old Brette Peyton in Dallas, have felt overwhelmed by images that are all too real.

"I feel like I can't even turn on the TV or look at a newspaper without seeing them -- and I don't want to see them anymore," says Peyton, who's the daughter of a retired Army officer.

At the same time, she feels like it's her generation's responsibility -- now more than ever -- to keep informed on the war so young people can be "better voters and leaders."

Otherwise, she says, "we will be ill-prepared to handle our country when its future rests in our hands."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 20somethings; iraq; prisonabuse; war
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To: bc2

Thanks for the ping,

I don't believe this is the response of the typical Gen-X/Y, All these 20 somethings in the article are from San Fransico, Chicago, New York City, Washington D.C., St. Louis and Dallas. Ask these questions to Gen-X/Ys in the south, Mid-west or even upstate New York and no doubt they would be very different.


21 posted on 05/14/2004 3:44:12 PM PDT by qam1 (Tommy Thompson is a Fat-tubby, Fascist)
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To: The Lumster

bttt


22 posted on 05/14/2004 3:47:26 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (I'm a Freeper. Fear me. Be very, very afraid.)
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To: dandelion
My brothers (22, 25) are outraged over the hype of the abuse photos and are nuclear about the beheading.

This has been the first time I have really heard either of them discuss foreign policy, let alone politics.

They are pissed and are motivated, talking to their friends, one has a web-site he is posting pro-WOT messages on.

These guys are seeing the future going one of two ways.

1.) We live our lives in fear of terrorist.
2.) We own land in the ME

23 posted on 05/14/2004 4:05:01 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (Veritas vos liberabit)
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To: qam1
See post #23 for a small Portland/Metro perspective.
24 posted on 05/14/2004 4:06:03 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (Veritas vos liberabit)
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To: The Lumster
Evidently women being shot dead in the center of the soccer field, or denied education, health care, or life without a burqua made no impression on these spoiled brats.

Evidently people put alive into shredding machines, beheaded, gassed, or tortured day in and day out had no meaning to these spoilted brats.

Naked prisoners in a pile made an impression?????????????

25 posted on 05/14/2004 4:18:10 PM PDT by OldFriend (LOSERS quit when they are tired/WINNERS quit when they have won)
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To: The Lumster

"The people shown abusing Iraqi prisoners are me"

MORON


26 posted on 05/14/2004 4:19:51 PM PDT by boxsmith13
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To: The Lumster

The tone of the article is definitely negative, the 20 somethings are sickened and scared.
I haven’t seen that here in Newport News. The young people in my neighborhood and at my favorite watering hole are sickened by the Arab Muslims. They seem scared that the US will shag butt before the job is finished.
A lot of GIs returning from and going to Iraq frequent the bar, all are treated great, no one has yet called them “murders” or “sickos” - but I doubt they would survive long if they did. The Junction is definitely GI Friendly.


27 posted on 05/14/2004 4:26:28 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Naspino
NOW they look at Abu Grhaib and are shocked?

I haven’t met these yet, maybe that the advantage of not living in a “real” city like New York, Chicago, San Francisco?

28 posted on 05/14/2004 4:28:26 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: boxsmith13
"The people shown abusing Iraqi prisoners are me" MORON

Hey, if, according to this author, every sicko in your generation is supposed to be "me" to that generation, it could definitely be worse:


29 posted on 05/14/2004 4:45:04 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: The Lumster
"Words have a power to affect your mind and to get your brain waves going," says Matthew Felling,..

So far, so good.

"But an image -- and a visceral one at that -- tugs at your heart. And that is the language that Generation X and Y speak more than any other age groups."

What to do, what to do. Hear/read words that "affect your mind" and "get your brain waves going", or let an image "tug at your heart"?

30 posted on 05/14/2004 4:50:06 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: OldFriend

>>Evidently women being shot dead in the center of the soccer field, or denied education, health care, or life without a burqua made no impression on these spoiled brats.

>>Evidently people put alive into shredding machines, beheaded, gassed, or tortured day in and day out had no meaning to these spoilted brats.

Maybe I missed the feed on CNN/ABC/CBS/NBC/MSNBC/FOX but ... I don't recall these images being prominently displayed in our media, day after day, hour after hour.


32 posted on 05/14/2004 5:04:00 PM PDT by Betis70
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To: The Lumster
This article is total horse manure.

"An entry posted on the Web site Live Journal about the first prison abuse photos also has drawn more than 1,200 responses in recent days --

Hell, we had more posts about this in an hour!

33 posted on 05/14/2004 5:13:32 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: holden

; Probably several people, mostly NEA members.

Who I believe the Education Secretary got caught labeling Terrorists. Shameful truths must not be uttered about the left no matter how accurate.............. sigh.........


34 posted on 05/14/2004 5:17:46 PM PDT by festus
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To: atomicpossum

"The media's attempt to Vietnamize Iraq continues...."

BINGO! We have a winner!


35 posted on 05/14/2004 5:43:48 PM PDT by jocon307 (The dems don't get it, the American people do.)
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To: atomicpossum

8 - "The media's attempt to Vietnamize Iraq continues...."

Let's tell it like it is - The Media's War on America continues.


36 posted on 05/14/2004 5:59:57 PM PDT by XBob
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To: Betis70
Sorry, but I don't watch much TV and these images were on TV quite a bit.......both at the start of the AFghan mission AND when we began our mission in Iraq.

The little darlings are too busy to watch the news but they can tell you everything you never wanted to know about Survivor.

37 posted on 05/14/2004 6:35:34 PM PDT by OldFriend (LOSERS quit when they are tired/WINNERS quit when they have won)
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To: qam1; All
I must point out, that in the middle of this bash of SOME (deserving) Gen-Xers, most of the current military is also made up of them, and Gen-Y types, too.

Not all of us is an MTV-head.

38 posted on 05/14/2004 10:14:43 PM PDT by Long Cut ("Fightin's commenced, Ike, now get to fightin' or get outta the way!"...Wyatt Earp, in Tombstone)
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To: Long Cut
Not all of us is an MTV-head.

Some of us, however, have better grammar than others of our generation....
39 posted on 05/15/2004 10:15:50 PM PDT by KangarooJacqui (Australia.... halfway down the slippery slide to socialism - observe our deeds, and beware!)
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To: KangarooJacqui
LOL! My wife will slap me...she's an English major. I should've proofread better. I blame the whiskey I was drinking. As an Aussie, I'm sure you'll understand.

BTW, I clicked your homepage. Nice tat.

One of the requirements for Gen-X MUST be to get tattooed.

40 posted on 05/15/2004 11:30:43 PM PDT by Long Cut ("Fightin's commenced, Ike, now get to fightin' or get outta the way!"...Wyatt Earp, in Tombstone)
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