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salon.com contacts DFU over FR's role in murder of Nick Berg by Islamofascist Terrorist b*st*rds
email from salon.com reporter | 5-12-04 | dfu

Posted on 05/12/2004 4:27:51 PM PDT by doug from upland

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Apparently, I am in the middle of a controversy regarding the brutal murder of Nick Berg by the Islamofascist terrorist b*st*rds.

I received the following FReepmail today from a salon.com reporter and spoke to him off the record. I will either call him back on the record or he can use my comments here on the record.

Salon.com inquiry, your post on the "enemies list"
From (redacted) | 05/12/2004 11:45:13 AM PDT read

Doug,

Hello. My name is (redacted), and I'm a reporter at Salon.com. On March 7, you posted a list of signatories to an ANSWER protest; that list, which is now being discussed by a few left-leaning bloggers, includes the name of "Michael S. Berg," who is the father of Nick Berg, the man beheaded in Iraq.

It seems as if you just posted a copy of the list from the ANSWER site, but the trouble is, your list appears much longer than the one on their page. Michael Berg's name -- and many others -- is not on their page.

So I wonder if you can tell me where you got your list -- have you any idea why yours is longer than the one they have?

I also wonder what you think about the fact that you named these people enemies; do you really think they're enemies? Some people on left-leaning blogs are floating the theory that Nick Berg was detained or singled out by U.S. authorities in Iraq because of the list you posted. I wonder what you think of that idea?

I'm not trying to attack you; I'm a reporter trying to get to the bottom of this story, and it'd be great to get your input. Can you e-mail or call, or let me know where to reach you? Thanks so much.

--(redacted)
Reporter, Salon.com (phone number redacted)

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NOTE: my first suggestion was to tell the report to ask ANSWER why many of the names have been removed from that original post.

Here is my post from a few months ago -- HERE IS THE ENEMY -- they have posted their names

Here is the link for the following excerpt on an FR thread -- Beheaded Man's Firm Was On Right-Wing 'Enemies' List

Original source -- original article by Fintan Dunne

Beheaded Man's Firm Was On Right-Wing 'Enemies' List
Breakfornews.com ^ | May 12, 2004 | Fintan Dunne
Posted on 05/12/2004 12:59:00 PM PDT by Tarantulas
Beheaded Man's Firm Was On Right-Wing 'Enemies' List

The family firm of beheaded American Nick Berg, was named by a conservative website in a list of 'enemies' of the Iraq occupation. That could explain his arrest by Iraqi police --a detention which fatally delayed his planned return from Iraq and may have led directly to his death.

Nick Berg, 26 disappeared into incommunicado detention after his arrest by Iraqi police in March, 2004. He vanished again after his release 13 days later. His body was found last Saturday in Baghdad, and a video of his beheading --supposedly by a radical Islamic group-- was posted on the Internet on Tuesday.

The official story of his gruesome murder has many dubious aspects, not least the real reason why Iraqi police detained the young man at a checkpoint. New research by BreakForNews has uncovered a plausible explanation.

The FreeRepublic.com web site and forum has a reputation for right-wing views, often fanatical Republican and relentless pro-war activism.

On 7th March, 2004, just three weeks before the first anniversary of the invasion of Iraq, an 'enemies' list of anti-war groups and individuals was posted on the Free Republic forum.

It began: "Here you are, FReepers. Here is the enemy."

The list had been copied from publicly available endorsements of a call to action for an imminent anniversary antiwar protest on 20th March, 2004. The protest was being organized under the banner of the A.N.S.W.E.R Coalition (Act Now to Stop War & End Racism).

Among those listed as having endorsed the call to action was this entry: "Michael S. Berg, Teacher, Prometheus Methods Tower Service, Inc."

That's Nick Berg's father, Michael who acts as business manager for his son in their family radio communications firm, Prometheus Methods Tower Service.

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Here is my immediate reaction --- what is the color of the sky in the fantasy world which Fintan Dunne calls home?

I can't wait for her next story. Let's set the scenario. Two guys are driving to the airport. Their upper radiator hose bursts, the car overheats, and they miss their flight. They get to the airport a few hours late and are able to catch the next plane. The plane crashes. Fintan Dunne headline: Pep Boys Implicated in Death of Innocent Travelers. If anyone could conceive such twisted logic, it would be Ms. Dunne. Without a defective radiator hose, they would have made it to the airport on time. Without a defective radiator hose they would not have been on the flight where the shoebomber detonated his loafers in the seat just behind the wing.

Do we have an official "enemies list"? If so, what do we do to them? Who is keeping track?

I will let you make some comments before I make additional on the record comments. Please don't be crazy. Think through your argument carefully. Some of this may appear on salon.com and we can perhaps help them get up to about 2 cents per share.


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Media Schadenfreude and Media Shenanigans PING

see post #324 for DFU's response to Salon.

381 posted on 05/13/2004 1:12:10 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: lainde
I saw the link to doug's post over at DU earlier today & got a strong desire to pass out some big rolls of tinfoil.
382 posted on 05/13/2004 1:26:44 AM PDT by GoLightly
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To: GoLightly

MICHAEL MOORE IMPLICATED IN DEATHS OF AMERICAN SOLDIERS

"The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not "insurgents" or "terrorists" or "The Enemy." They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow -- and they will win. Get it, Mr. Bush?"

Moore is a fat ugly disgusting traitor to America. But so is Dan Rather, Peter Jennings, Tom Brokaw, Ted Koppel, and most Liberal media.

383 posted on 05/13/2004 1:32:28 AM PDT by Enduring Freedom (Jean Fidel Qaerry - Vietnam Veterans Against The War On Terrorism)
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To: Izzy Dunne
Because his father was ...... against the war.

Is that believable to anyone?

George Bush will stop at nothing to destroy democracy here in America. He knows no bounds; he stays his evil hand not for logic, nor reason, nor love, nor even the bounds of the physically possible. He is the ultimate destroyer, usurper, corrupter of all that is right and good. If you go to the movie theater, you will see how he is responsible for the destruction of the United States of America by a storm of tornados and whatnot. Really. It's science.

Why wouldn't Bush do everything within his earthly power and then some to harm one of the dissenters?

384 posted on 05/13/2004 1:32:46 AM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: xm177e2
You are being serious ?
385 posted on 05/13/2004 1:35:18 AM PDT by John Lenin (Leftists's have the brainpower of a moth)
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To: Southack
$500 Clark, Wesley
$500 Dean, Howard

I'd like to be able to light $1000 on fire, too.

386 posted on 05/13/2004 1:46:10 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: John Lenin
You are being serious ?I'm as serious as the Armageddon that is upon us if we do not accept unquestioningly the message of The Day After Tomorrow.

The end is UPON us! Repent, and turn to nature's love, before it is too late! After all, Canada is spared the worst of the upcoming natural disasters because it's a good country that wants to put the Kyoto Accord into effect. If only America were so morally pure as Canada, that we too could intend to put Kyoto into effect but not actually do so, maybe our country would not be ravaged by tornadoes and whatnot.

I think Bush WANTS America to be destroyed in the upcoming environmental catastrophe. It's part of his crazy Christian worldview. He wants to see the end of the world.

Well, I'm with Al Gore! We have to stand up against Bush and his plan to bring about a fossil fuel-fueled Armageddon that would turn us all into fossils! Hooray for science!

Or rather, no, I'm not being serious. Sorry.

387 posted on 05/13/2004 1:46:45 AM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Izzy Dunne; All
Take this back to Clinton, had he snapped up Bin Laden when he was offered him, there would have been no 9-11 or war IMO. Laden declared "war on us" and Clinton still didn't take him when offered several times. Clinton admitted this on video as well. That is not a debatable issue.

Meanwhile the wealthy terrorist leader is out there using his millions to grow an army of terrorists and to one day cause this tragic death of this young man among all the others.

Had Clinton been a leader of Presidential judgment, we would not now be spending billions, time and the lives of American soldiers to fight terror.

Salon and the left seem to turn deaf, dumb and blind when confronted with the facts about the Clinton screw up.

Had Clinton been a President that even halfway did his job, none of this would be where it is to begin with. The war was all avoidable when Clinton failed to act. That weakness in Clinton brought the war knocking to our door in NY in 9-11.

Salon needs to dance with the one who brought them here, Bill Clinton. Deal with the Clinton issue first and about a million other steps down the line you may again bring up this ignorant question.

Maybe an enemy's list would be considered so because those who speak against America's role in a war on terror in public serve the terrorist by giving them talking points and a resolve to fight on.
If you are helping the bad guys in the PR department, you are siding with the enemy on at least a passive level.

The terrorist want us all dead. Focus on that in your articles at Salon.

Does Dan Rather and 60 Minutes have any role in Salon's eyes in presenting these pictures when asked not to because it would inflame the situation when we are fighting a war?

388 posted on 05/13/2004 1:48:25 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: weegee; doug from upland
If he escaped (or was released), he could have provided information to authorities as this man is doing now. He was as good as dead the day he was captured.

It's true, but you haven't mentioned the real reason Nick Berg is dead.

I think it's a big mistake to take terrorists at their word for anything. It gives them too much credit. They SAY it was because of the prison abuse, but that was only the excuse they used in their screenplay. If there had been no prison scandal, they would have invented another excuse. They were going to kill him all along.

The truth is that these animals weren't going to pass up the chance to murder an American Jew with their bare hands, no matter what. It was the same with Daniel Pearl.

I heard the audio of Nick's beheading on the radio yesterday. They clearly enjoyed what they were doing. They were like demons playing in blood.

This is the "resistance" that ANSWER openly supports. So yes, their signatories are my enemies. I feel incredibly sorry for Michael Berg, but I don't know how anyone could read the ANSWER website or attend one of their marches without realizing what they're really all about. I can only hope the poor man knows it now, or soon.

389 posted on 05/13/2004 2:56:44 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart
It's not only the "resistance" that ANSWER supports, these are the people that Michael Moore claims are "not terrorists" or "the Enemy".
390 posted on 05/13/2004 3:07:39 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: xm177e2
He {Bush] knows no bounds; he stays his evil hand not for logic, nor reason, nor love, nor even the bounds of the physically possible.

I think your Prozac is wearing off...

391 posted on 05/13/2004 4:17:42 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: wardaddy; doug from upland
Wasn't it a reporter from Salon.com that, while he had the flu, licked doorknobs in the hope of getting some right-wingers sick? I don't remember all the details of the story, but I think it was Jake Tapper or a similar name.
392 posted on 05/13/2004 4:21:04 AM PDT by sauropod ("I am Locutus of Borg. Resistance is futile. You will service US.")
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To: doug from upland
The blame lies with the father. He's the one who signed his name for all the world to see.

393 posted on 05/13/2004 5:10:42 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for conservatives!)
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To: doug from upland
Beautiful answer!
394 posted on 05/13/2004 5:16:04 AM PDT by Peach
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To: doug from upland

FRY MUMIA!


395 posted on 05/13/2004 5:19:27 AM PDT by sauropod ("I am Locutus of Borg. Resistance is futile. You will service US.")
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To: monkeywrench
So the headline should have read: Father Kills Son
396 posted on 05/13/2004 5:22:36 AM PDT by BSunday (Liberty lost is never regained - John Adams)
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To: litany_of_lies; Vets_Husband_and_Wife; alisasny; hellinahandcart
I'm sorry. My sympathy for the father is just about gone.
397 posted on 05/13/2004 5:24:06 AM PDT by sauropod ("I am Locutus of Borg. Resistance is futile. You will service US.")
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To: doug from upland
Good thing you didn't follow the lead of the left-wing extremist, activist Air America radio and suggest they be shot. /sarcasm
398 posted on 05/13/2004 5:25:04 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Tamsey
Good find!
399 posted on 05/13/2004 5:30:44 AM PDT by sauropod ("I am Locutus of Borg. Resistance is futile. You will service US.")
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To: doug from upland
"I received the following FReepmail today from a salon.com reporter and spoke to him off the record."

And you believed he would respect "off the record?" Dude, no offense, but that right there puts your ability to reason in question. Best of luck.
400 posted on 05/13/2004 5:32:32 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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