"Islam's LAST Chance"--(Make up your minds)

5/11/04 | redrock

[redrock]

We're a little different....we Americans. Full of hope and life...wanting nothing more than to live a good,decent life...and pass on to our children the Freedom and chance to betterment that we ourselves have had.

We don't want to conquer the world...we don't want to even own the idiot thing. We watch dumb t.v. shows...and ,sometimes, even dumber movies. All with the expectation of trying to enjoy a couple of hours of leisure..and,really,doing nothing important.

And yet...we also aspire to goodness...and ,maybe, just a little greatness (always with the small 'g'). We TRY to do good the world over. We TRY to help our fellow man...to Free him...to show him that there IS a better way of life. We TRY to show our fellow dwellers on this rock that Freedom...the power to choose for oneself...is so priceless that it is worth fighting for.

Oh,for sure, we DO have our share of 'bad' people. Those who will commit acts of savagry or abuse against other Americans....or Iraqi's for that matter. We DO have people here who will commit all sorts of crime.....BUT...we also have the knowledge that when they are caught...MOST,if not all, will be punished.

But,most Americans, are just normal average people who go to work...pay their bills....raise their children.

Never forget....we are the 'Good Guys'.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

I have watched for the last year....the reporting of Americans being killed in Afghanistan and Iraq. (doing nothing more than trying to help fellow human beings). I have watched the burnt out vehicles along the roadside...I have seen the burnt and dismembered bodies of Americans being dragged thru the streets and hung from a bridge...all to the tune of dancing men and children chanting about how Allah is great.

I've watched for the last week...the unending circus about the abuses ,done by some, at a prison in Iraq. I have NOT liked what happened there...I have liked even less watching all the newspeople and politicians making asses of themselves in some sort of weird game of 'one-upmanship'. (after all...to BECOME a politician...you have to an ass anyway...and newspeople aren't much further up the ladder)

...and today, I have watched the moving pictures of a young American being beheaded.

I watched the Islamic Terrorists raise his head towards the camera...to try and instill fear in my heart. In the hearts of my friends. In the hearts of my children.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

I got news for them.

I don't scare that easy.

WE don't scare that easy.

I have written before....there is a cancer in the world today. Eating away at basic human decency. Eating away at Freedom...trying to return us to those glorious days of yesterday...where the Rulers of Islam could decide your life and death on a whim.

I have also said that UNLESS the so-called moderate Islam stands up and helps us fight those who do such savagry as I witnessed today...then they are no better than those who beheaded that young American.

Moderate Islam has a choice.

Life or death.

Choose life...and the rewards will be great. But it WILL take you getting invovled in actually fighting the Islamic Terrorists. It WILL take you standing up on your hindlegs and actually voicing your opposition to the Osama's of the world. It WILL take you discovering your testicles.

There is a cancer among us...and it is Islamic Terrorism.

...and if moderate Islam wants to just sit on the sideline then we will consider that you have chosen death.

...and we will help you get there.

---------------------------------------------------------------------

God Bless the United States of America....and God Bless the Soldiers who are protecting her.

redrock

[old-ager]

What I want to know is what is being preached in these 327 (as of May 2004) places across our beautiful land. Does ANYBODY HERE know? SHOULDN'T WE?

[Valin]

....but I HAVE said that those who profess to BE 'moderate' NEED to stand up and help defend this Nation.



You mean like the 10,000 some Muslims serving in the military?

[redrock]

Just curious...but...how many of those have refused to serve in Islamic Nations???

...and how many of them have taken the route of lobbing a hand-grenade at their superior officers???

redrock

[Trident/Delta]

Damn Brother, If they take (ban) you, they better take (ban) me too! I feel the same way!

Semper F**kin Fi!

[Valin]

Just curious...but...how many of those have refused to serve in Islamic Nations???

Well here's one
Iraq 2.0
Omar Masry, Civil Affairs
Sergeant US Army
Baghdad, Iraq
http://www.omarmasry.net/

and how many of them have taken the route of lobbing a hand-grenade at their superior officers???

One.

[Travis McGee]

In Viet Nam, when the VC his his bases under triple canopy forest, the USAF got rid of the triple canopy forest. We didn't want to, but it was war. Hence, Agent Orange, and Operation Ranch Hand and so on.

Today, the radical islamofascist terrorists use the "moderate muslim community" as their triple canopy forest. They hide among the "moderate muslims" by pretending to be "moderate muslims," until the day arrives to get on a jet with a box cutter and some like-minded jihadists.

The genuine moderate muslims in the USA had better by a clue, fast. If we can't tell the genuine moderate muslims from the next Mohammed Attas until after the next terrorist outrages, blame yourselves for not taking action to clean up your own nest in time.

If you don't, we will.

And if we have to take down the entire "triple canopy forest" to get at the Mohammed Attas hiding perfectly among you, so be it.

Choose now, moderate muslims. Choose now.

[Stopislamnow]

Say not islamic terrorism. Say islam. Since terror and islam are inseperable. There will no denunciations from the so called islamic world.

Look at thier crimes against civilization worldwide. Continous and never ending. Everywhere there is islam...how many mosques are there in the US? Every mosque is a terrorist haven. They're quiet here for one reason, they know we're armed, and we'll blow em to hell in a heartbeat.

After watching the video of Berg being killed I am beyond being enraged.

Islam needs to be rooted out and destroyed worldwide, starting here at home.

[US_MilitaryRules]

Its a start.

[My Favorite Headache]

Can I get a f+cking AMEN?

[Blzbba]

"Sorry, just cause the going is a little tough is NO reason for us to run away and hide under our beds"


No, I just don't think they're worth wasting any more American lives on.

[Cold Heat]

Wonderful post.

I watched the full version of the video today, and I also have the Pearl video.

I am keeping them for some reason that I cannot understand, but I am keeping them anyway,

I share your sentiments about the basic nature of Americans, but I want to add one more. I want to add a criticism. A criticism I thought I would never have to make again.

As a Vietnam era vet, I am very sensitive to public moods and trends when we are engaged in combat.

I lived through a time when for reasons I did not fully understand then, my country, through many of it's people insulted, abandoned and demoralized many of us serving, because they did not want to continue the Vietnam war and demanded that we pull out.

This went on for months and then years and during this time our armed forces began to feel the pinch of fewer resources and bad morale. Really bad morale. Terrible morale.

This condition existed and was never repaired until Ronald Reagan some how pulled a rabbit out of a hat and magically brought morale back up to pre-war levels.

I was so, so happy to see that happen and all the pain and hell that I went through seemed a distant memory.

Well folks, I am now afraid that "they're Baaack" to haunt me once more, in the form of the same type of rhetoric and political backstabbing that the weak kneed liberal mental midgets of the 60's had in their socialist, anti-war agenda.

I thought perhaps we had learned our lesson by the men who were killed in Vietnam for lack of support back home, but by God we have NOT!

I see it again!

I want to grab them with both hands and say, "what the hell is the matter with you?" "Why can't you do a very simple thing and support your country and commander in chief in wartime and stop making political hay out of every single problem that is bound by experience to occur and occur often!"

Today, on the forum, I saw the posts of some of these people, and every day I see them on TV spouting their pompous screeds of failure and cost.

It is as if the medication of 9/11 has worn off and the 9/10 mentality has reemerged as the new normal.

I have some advice for those people. They need to get out of my way and shut the hell up. They need to totally reevaluate what is important to them and what is not because if they do not do this and very soon, the enemy is going to remind them the hard way.

God Bless America, and God Bless President George W. Bush, and God Bless our Military and those serving. For without them, we would be and have nothing. Nothing at all..........

[Stopislamnow]

I agree.

Been saying it all along.

[Robert_Paulson2]

The appropriate solutions will become increasingly apparent and evermore expedient...

denial will not alter the reality of the future.
Islam is to humanity as Cancer is to the human body.

[McGavin999]

I went to see the pictures of Nick Berg. I've been reading threads ever since the pictures came out and everyone was so shaken by them, many saying "don't go, you can't unsee those pictures". I hesitated for a long time but I finally decided that, as an American, it is my duty to understand what we are up against.

Strangely enough, I was not shaken. I looked very closely, I did not turn away, and the only thing I felt was anger, a cold, hard fury.

I don't think our enemy understands this about us.

[Stopislamnow]

The video, the sound, it shook me. Enraged me.

And I've seen alot.

Pictures cannot adequetely convey the depravity and barbarism of these muslims.

The networks won't play this(or 9-11 video) for two reasons.

Mosques would disappear in ashes, and muslims would no longer be safe.

[Cacique]

Moderate Moose Limbs? That's like looking for moderate Nazis and Communists. I guess the moderates used gas, the fanatics used bullets.

[SAMWolf]

IMHO, Islam needs to be wiped off the face of the earth as a major political movement (It's not a religion) just like Nazism in Germany and Imperialism in Japan.

[Robert_Paulson2]

your analogy as ever travis is outstanding...
one problem travis where you said:
"Choose now, moderate muslims. Choose now."

... I think we had this discussion in the weeks an months immediately after 911... and after the pearl butchering video... and the madrid bombings... and the fallujah barbeque party... and the passover bombing... and the murder of the israeli mother with child, and her four little girls... a week or two back...

the problem is... I think moderate islam HAS ALREADY CHOSEN REPEATEDLY.
THE time to chose, passed months if not a year or more ago.
I think they are for their brothers, the more radical elements of the islamic ummah, and against us (silently to avoid exposure and expulsion).

My concern is with the ongoing diatribe of the "moderate islamics are good peace loving people" crowd; and just how long we will be listening to them as event after bloody frigging event continues to unfurl... I think such denial is dangerous (and our destiny as well in the short term).

Like many Americans, I don't remember my history well... how many years did it take from the time we took over for the failed french in vietnam... and the time we began the deforestation project?
15-20 years?
I know you remember, because you were there.
We may not have 15-20 years... if they really have the WMD's in their possession or under significant development.

[Robert_Paulson2]

Strangely enough, I was not shaken. I looked very closely, I did not turn away, and the only thing I felt was anger, a cold, hard fury.

I don't think our enemy understands this about us.

---

I think that's just you McG.
I think our enemy knows that you and men like you ARE a disappearing breed and that the soccer mommies will surrender at the earliest opportunity for their clitorectomies and burquas....

I think they have studied our demographic exhaustively and know that we are a population in decline... who abhor bloody murder... and are merciful and forgiving to a fault. THEY are counting on it.

The president has perpetuated this.
Some on this very "conservative" website, on this very thread are soooooo quick to point out that there are good muslims... and the very point of the thread?

WHERE ARE THEY? and WHY THE HE11, DON'T they SPEAK UP?

and the silence all over the islamic street... is friggin deafening. moderate islam is only a cover for radical islam...

We may get a few condemnations of this most recent "private contractor" murder and torture... but I see NOTHING coming close from the islamic world, like I have seen and heard over the picture of an islamic wearing a pair of girls panties over his head, with a hard on...

What's wrong with this picture.
Islam is murder. that's what. and nothing else. period.

[Stopislamnow]

Time to start FReeping mosques nationwide.

Islamic groups headquarters, CAIR and the such.