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Hanging out the troops (MEGA BARF ALERT!!!)
World Net Daily ^ | 11 May 2004 | Col. (Ret.) David Hackworth

Posted on 05/11/2004 3:36:55 PM PDT by txradioguy

As an American citizen, I'm ashamed of the atrocities committed by Americans in Iraq. As a former professional soldier, I'm appalled not only by what has happened in the prisons there, but also by our military leadership. From the very top of the Pentagon down to the 320th Military Police Battalion, the brass have spent months covering up obscene behavior while placing the sole blame on Joe and Jill Grunt.

The damage to our country and our just war on terrorism is already devastating. And these war crimes not only diminish the sacrifices of our gallant soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan, they place the troops at even greater risk. But I'm certain these abhorrent acts wouldn't have occurred had the right kind of leadership been exercised by the chain of command.

In 1951 in Korea, I was told by my commanding officer to kill four POWs and refused his direct order. I well remembered the Nazi generals' sorry rationale for their despicable conduct: "We were just following orders." I would get booted out of the Army before I went that route.

In 1965 in Vietnam, I saw a very connected intelligence captain torturing a POW with a field-telephone wire attached to his testicles and decided my personal belief system outweighed his father's four stars. When I told him I'd shoot him if he didn't cease and desist, the atrocity came to a screeching halt.

On both occasions, I knew I had the moral right. I'd been taught from the first day I put on a U.S. Army uniform that American soldiers don't follow unlawful orders and that it was my duty to stop or report an illegal act. I also believed strongly that when dealing with POWs, "There but for the grace of God go I."

The vast majority of our regular soldiers today are likewise well-trained, well-disciplined and have similar values. And they've conducted themselves during the occupation of Iraq in a manner that aptly reflects what America is all about.

But, unfortunately, this is not always the case with many Army Reserve and National Guard units that have been deployed overseas since 9-11. In fact, I've worn out several drums beating the readiness issue during face-to-face meetings with the top brass. As far back as 1989, I warned Secretary of the Army Mike Stone about the generally sad shape of our Reserve and Guard components. But while he listened up, little was done to correct the systemic problems.

And now, because Mr. Rumsfeld and too many of his generals are into a fast-fix mode, the Pentagon has been dispatching Reserve and Guard units to combat zones even when they aren't good to go. For example, I know of two enhanced infantry brigades that were rated as not combat-ready by Training Center commanders, but were still sent to Iraq because boots were needed on the ground.

Retired Master Sgt. William Lawson, who brought the atrocity story to SFTT.org, says the 800th Military Police Brigade is a prime example: "My nephew Chip, who's been charged with war crimes, wasn't trained to be a prison guard. He was a part-time soldier marginally trained for even conventional military police work. But Chip was such a good soldier that he was selected to escort Gen. Myers, the chairman of the Joint Staff, when Chip was guarding the vice president right after 9-11. Myers gave him both great reviews and his personal coin."

"The bedrock truth about the abuses at Abu Ghraib prison is that they were so easily preventable," adds SFTT (Soldiers For The Truth) Vice President Roger Charles, who researched this story for CBS News. "But that prevention required a recognition that the top people in the 800th were ill-prepared, incompetent and uncaring. The evidence clearly shows that the Department of the Army mafia was more concerned about protecting the image of the brigade commanding general, Brig. Gen. Janis Karpinski, than holding her and her officers accountable for the terrible situation, which they allowed to fester for months."

Speaking of Karpinski, she's received only a mild slap on the wrist as the brass were circling the wagons. Not a good sign that our country's commanders intend to own up to their respective roles in this catastrophic breach of human rights, which will have consequences we all will have to pay for many years to come.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
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Thank you sir for giving aid and comfort to our enemies with your column.
1 posted on 05/11/2004 3:36:56 PM PDT by txradioguy
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To: txradioguy
I wrote Hack another email today suggesting he use Dawn and a diluted bleach solution to get the blood off his hands. I dont think he will like it much.
2 posted on 05/11/2004 3:40:39 PM PDT by aft_lizard (I actually Voted for John Kerry before I voted against Him)
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To: txradioguy
Self serving SOB isn't he. He is like sKerry in one sense--he makes a career out of being in the military.


3 posted on 05/11/2004 3:43:06 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: txradioguy
Since when are humiliations, nude photos, panties on head, etc., equivalent to "atrocities"? Hackworth probably commits some of these "atrocities" every weekend with his girlfriend.
4 posted on 05/11/2004 3:43:13 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Steve_Seattle; All
Just sent this to Hack. Will be interesting to see if I get a reply back.

RE: Your Latest Column


Sir,

99% of the time I agree with what you say. As someone who just through with a year hitch in Baghdad (3rd Bde. 1st AD) I have to disagree that there was a cover up or any CYA going on in reference to Abu Ghraib. The report has been out there since January. The media has known about it. They didn't discover their moral indignation at what happened until the pics came out.

These aren't garden variety thugs in Abu Ghraib. They aren't jaywalkers and shoplifters. Most of them are the same kind of brutal murderers like we've all seen today in the video of the murder of Nick Berg.

IMHO, the ONLY thing the soldiers should be punished for is the stupidity of having recorded what they did. If their tactics, as uncouth as they may be helped to save ONE american soldier, then I have no problem with what they did.


Spc. John S. Wollaston
Ft. Riley, Kansas
5 posted on 05/11/2004 3:44:20 PM PDT by txradioguy (HOOAH!!!...Not Just A Word...A Way Of Life!!!)
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To: darkwing104; All
teagles@hackworth.com if you care to let him know how you feel.
6 posted on 05/11/2004 3:44:50 PM PDT by txradioguy (HOOAH!!!...Not Just A Word...A Way Of Life!!!)
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To: txradioguy
Obviously all that THC he smoked while fraternizing with his troops has really gone to his head.
7 posted on 05/11/2004 3:48:16 PM PDT by dts32041 ("Liberty is not America's gift to the world, it is God's gift to humanity" George W Bush 28 Jan 2003)
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To: txradioguy
I wonder if he could understand a honest-to-goodness chewing out...I doubt it, his ego is probably bigger then Rosie O'Donnell's waist line and he wouldn't think I was talking about him.


8 posted on 05/11/2004 3:48:39 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: txradioguy
You got to undestand what is going on. This is not about Irag, this is about US Politics.

It is worth repeating....

LINK to PAST FR Article on Pictures of Abuse

This is not about ethics, this is not about evil that occurs in prision, this is about politics. The sooner we understand that, the better able we will be to deal with it as a country.

The Dem's and the press earlier this year learned that they can argue with Bush over the war in Irag, but if they said anything against the troops, the US public would not stand for it. Now they have a wedge issue that allows the troops to be vilified. That means that traditional anti-war, democratics constituent groups can be worked by both the party and the media.

9 posted on 05/11/2004 3:49:10 PM PDT by Robert357
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To: txradioguy
Oh puh-PEEEASE. Articles like this are why I don't go to Worldnet Daily anymore. Like most morons, his timing, in light of the beheading video, sucks. The contrast is grotesque, to say the least.
10 posted on 05/11/2004 3:49:48 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: txradioguy
Thanks for emailing that POS. Please post his (likely obnoxious) reply.
11 posted on 05/11/2004 3:51:14 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: cake_crumb
Hack is even taking credit for the abuse story seeing the light of day too. Funny how he claims to be a champion of the soldiers. This article doesn't read that way to me.
12 posted on 05/11/2004 3:51:52 PM PDT by txradioguy (HOOAH!!!...Not Just A Word...A Way Of Life!!!)
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To: cake_crumb
I will as soon as I get something.
13 posted on 05/11/2004 3:54:19 PM PDT by txradioguy (HOOAH!!!...Not Just A Word...A Way Of Life!!!)
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To: Robert357
I know this is about politics and I'm keeping my fingers crossed that more than jsut those of us on FR understand that too.
14 posted on 05/11/2004 3:54:57 PM PDT by txradioguy (HOOAH!!!...Not Just A Word...A Way Of Life!!!)
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To: txradioguy
"Hack is even taking credit for the abuse story seeing the light of day too."

I'm getting into a fouler-by-the-minute mood. If he wants credit credit for breaking the story - despite the fact it was reported in in January - then I'm happy to give it to him, and DEMAND HE TESTIFY BEFORE THAT DISGUSTING KANGAROO COURT THAT PASSES FOR THE ARMED FORCES COMMITTEE, AND EXPLAIN HIS PART IN THE ILLEGAL LEAK OF EVIDENCE IN A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION.

Why hasn't he testified? If this were really about Rumy covering up the fact there were photos from congress (which we now know was a lie) then why aren't Lawrence and Hackworth testifying?

15 posted on 05/11/2004 4:03:27 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: cake_crumb
Yep. Getting so disgusted I'm typing worse than usual.
16 posted on 05/11/2004 4:04:49 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: txradioguy
To think I used to admire this turd...I'm ashamed of him.
17 posted on 05/11/2004 4:09:11 PM PDT by lancer (If you are not with us, you are against us!)
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To: cake_crumb; All
Anyone have any idea who the publishing house is for Hacks books?

I have a theory I'm working on here....
18 posted on 05/11/2004 4:09:26 PM PDT by txradioguy (HOOAH!!!...Not Just A Word...A Way Of Life!!!)
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To: Mo1; Howlin; Miss Marple
HACK ATTACK!

"As an American citizen, I'm ashamed of the atrocities committed by Americans in Iraq. As a former professional soldier, I'm appalled not only by what has happened in the prisons there, but also by our military leadership. From the very top of the Pentagon down to the 320th Military Police Battalion, the brass have spent months covering up obscene behavior while placing the sole blame on Joe and Jill Grunt"

19 posted on 05/11/2004 4:10:11 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: txradioguy
Hmmm....no but it shouldn't be too hard to find out. Give me a few minutes.
20 posted on 05/11/2004 4:11:01 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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